Silkroad Online Forums

A community forum for the free online game Silkroad Online. Discuss Silkroad Online, read up on guides, and build your character and skills.

Faq Search Members Chat  Register Profile Login

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:29 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
sorry bout the spellin mistake but what the title says

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:31 pm 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 349
in fps(first persons shooters) its more important then in mmorpgs, but its important yes


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:33 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
much much ping do u need to be considerd good?

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:36 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3128
Location: SteakSauce
daemon225 wrote:
much much ping do u need to be considerd good?

lulwut?

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:37 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
like lets say some one has like 23 ping is at low?

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:39 pm 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 5573
Location: Netherlands
in fps games at 100+ ping it gets extremely annoying to play. (I don't see a difference between 10 and 50 ping but above that you notice it more and more)
In mmo's I don't really know, when I played WoW I had 60 ping so can't really say what it's like to have 100+ ping, though I don't think it matters too much in mmo's cause there's always a global cooldown or something else, don't need to do shit real fast.

I'd say it all depends on the game and how fast you have to react. The faster the game is paced, the better your ping has to be to compete.

edit: yes, 23 ping is low.
everything above 100 is high for me.

_________________
Image

<< :giveup:>>


Last edited by woutR on Mon May 19, 2008 7:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:39 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3128
Location: SteakSauce
daemon225 wrote:
like lets say some one has like 23 ping is at low?

no its high. which is good

*Low*

(Its good)

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:42 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
cuz i took that speed test and it sayed i had 23 ping ( i got a good computer like 1 yr old)
i thought that was the reason i was laggin a lil

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:45 pm 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 5573
Location: Netherlands
it doesn't matter how good your pc is, ping relates to your internet.
You can get 1 ping on a windows 98 pc and on a super high end pc, it doesn't matter.

@Grimm, what do you mean with high ping?
I never knew that there is no such thing as 'fast' internet, only broader internet and I always enjoy these kind of trivia. So, something I'm missing?

_________________
Image

<< :giveup:>>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:48 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3128
Location: SteakSauce
woutR wrote:
it doesn't matter how good your pc is, ping relates to your internet.
You can get 1 ping on a windows 98 pc and on a super high end pc, it doesn't matter.

@Grimm, what do you mean with high ping?
I never knew that there is no such thing as 'fast' internet, only broader internet and I always enjoy these kind of trivia. So, something I'm missing?

I meant low**

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:03 pm 
Ex-Staff
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2979
Location: Playin' Talkin'
woutR wrote:
it doesn't matter how good your pc is, ping relates to your internet.
You can get 1 ping on a windows 98 pc and on a super high end pc, it doesn't matter.


Ping refers to your connection with the game server. If you live in the US and the server you're playing on is hosted in the US you'll have a low ping (and thus no lag).
If the server is hosted in Europe you will have a relatively high ping (and lag in some degree)

_________________
Image


Niyoke wrote:
err i know ium soudning weird but .. Mr Bow is my p.e teacher .. ARE YOU MR BOW? LMAO ?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:25 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
MrBow wrote:
woutR wrote:
it doesn't matter how good your pc is, ping relates to your internet.
You can get 1 ping on a windows 98 pc and on a super high end pc, it doesn't matter.


Ping refers to your connection with the game server. If you live in the US and the server you're playing on is hosted in the US you'll have a low ping (and thus no lag).
If the server is hosted in Europe you will have a relatively high ping (and lag in some degree)

thx

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:56 pm 
Senior Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4757
Location:
Off Topic
MrBow wrote:
woutR wrote:
it doesn't matter how good your pc is, ping relates to your internet.
You can get 1 ping on a windows 98 pc and on a super high end pc, it doesn't matter.


Ping refers to your connection with the game server. If you live in the US and the server you're playing on is hosted in the US you'll have a low ping (and thus no lag).
If the server is hosted in Europe you will have a relatively high ping (and lag in some degree)


yep, thats right. If you connect to a server where the ping is over 200, just get out, its a pain in the ass to play. Cause what happens is that your frame rate gets slow and basically your slower than everyone else relative to time. That means that your bullets are slower than everyone else and you will die, even if you unloaded 10 bullets into the guys head.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:28 pm 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13206
Location: Life
My ping sucks in Gunz I have like a 1000 ping... :banghead:
I don't play anymore because I kept getting kicked out of game because of my ping :(


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:21 am 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 867
Location:
Off Topic
Quote:
Computer Desktop Encyclopedia: latency

(1) The time between initiating a request in the computer and receiving the answer. Data latency may refer to the time between a query and the results arriving at the screen or the time between initiating a transaction that modifies one or more databases and its completion.

Disk latency is the time it takes for the selected sector to be positioned under the read/write head. Channel latency is the time it takes for a computer channel to become unoccupied in order to transfer data. Network latency is the delay introduced when a packet is momentarily stored, analyzed and then forwarded.

To understand "ping" think about submarines and sonar. A sound is sent out and the time it takes for the echo to return allows distance calculation. It's a little different with computers, but in a Client / Server network your comp is communicating with the SRO servers by passing packets through the internet. Measuring the ping rate allows you to determine relative network traffic (and relative delay) between you and SRO.

It works by sending ICMP 'echo request' packets to the target host and listening for ICMP 'echo response' replies. Ping estimates the round-trip time, generally in milliseconds, records any packet loss, and prints a summary when finished.

To do an actual "ping" you can START /// RUN /// CMD /// < to open up a command interface
then, at the command prompt type PING [IP ADDRESS] -or- [DHCP HOSTNAME] [ENTER]

Image


Last edited by Grandpa on Tue May 20, 2008 1:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:21 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 688
Location:
Venus
daemon225 wrote:
like lets say some one has like 23 ping is at low?


yes it is low

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:32 am 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 867
Location:
Off Topic
Shynygamie wrote:
daemon225 wrote:
like lets say some one has like 23 ping is at low?


yes it is low
Agreed, 23 milliseconds is "low", but the real question is "What are you pinging?" For instance if I were to ping myself, my result would be lower. If I were to ping my gateway server it would also be expected to be lower than 23.

The real question is, "What is the pingrate to the SRO Server?" To know this you'd need the server IP Address. But even that might not help, as most game servers do not respond to ICMP data requests.

What you were likely doing was finding a server on the net that 'tests' your ping to THEM. To be able to interpret this statistic you'd have to perform it often and at various times. So then if your average ping to a test server (located in Montreal, for instance) was 41ms, then yes, 23ms would be better.

Simply testing your ping to a unknown server once doesn't tell me much, but sure 23 is 'good'. :wink:

QUESTION (please): IS there an ingame command to show the current ping (not FPS, ping)?

_________________
Click ~~> SRO GUIDE 4 Newbs
Image


Last edited by Grandpa on Tue May 20, 2008 1:37 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:34 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
Grandpa wrote:
Shynygamie wrote:
daemon225 wrote:
like lets say some one has like 23 ping is at low?


yes it is low
Agreed, 23 milliseconds is "low", but the real question is "What are you pinging?" For instance if I were to ping myself, my result would be lower. If I were to ping my gateway server it would also be expected to be lower than 23.

The real question is, "What is the pingrate to the SRO Server?" To know this you'd need the server IP Address. But even that might not help, as most game servers do not respond to ICMP data requests.

What you were likely doing was finding a server on the net that 'tests' your ping to THEM. To be able to interpret this statistic you'd have to perform it often and at various times. So then if your average ping to a test server (located in Montreal, for instance) was 41ms, then yes, 23ms would be better.

Simply testing your ping to a unknown server once doesn't tell me much, but sure 23 is 'good'. :wink:

+ 1 but is 23 ping fast for sro

EDIT:cuz i got 23 ping

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:39 am 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 867
Location:
Off Topic
daemon225 wrote:
Grandpa wrote:
Simply testing your ping to a unknown server once doesn't tell me much, but sure 23 is 'good'. :wink:

+ 1 but is 23 ping fast for sro

EDIT:cuz i got 23 ping

Sorry, I didn't [EDIT] my above post fast enuf.

How do you determine your ingame ping? Is there a command that tells you?
I know that "WOW" has a command like that, but don't know how to do it in SRO.
(thx) :P

_________________
Click ~~> SRO GUIDE 4 Newbs
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:42 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
it was on an earlier thread hes the link

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=88004

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:53 am 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 867
Location:
Off Topic
daemon225 wrote:
it was on an earlier thread hes the link

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=88004
Ok, so you are measuring your "internet speed" and NOT your ping to the SRO servers.
That's ok.
Mine is here:

Image

Notice a couple things though. My throughput is currently clocking at ~16.7 mb/s
My current ping (to the Van Server) is 117ms.

This doesn't tell me my throughput (more important) or my ping to the SRO servers.
For instance, I've tested my throughput before at > 20 mb/s

It's a measurement of the relative traffic and data transfer rate between your connection and the server your are testing from. In order to make sense of it (because you're asking, how fast is my internet speed "now" vs. before) you have to do it multiple times.

So if your normal throughput is 15 meg and your normal ping is 31, because you've tested it lots of times... and you notice that you're lagging in SRO, you 'could' run the test right then. That would help you understand if the 'lag' or 'latency' you were experiencing in game was likely due to general network traffic.

But here's my guess: The SRO servers are slowing down (probably). CPU Utilization on the server is normally more significant (given that you have a good connection and a newer comp) than ping.

Sorry this so wordy, just trying to say that "Ping" is only part of the equation.

[EDIT] under spoiler:
Spoiler!

-- sheesh, there I go again... typing too much :oops:

_________________
Click ~~> SRO GUIDE 4 Newbs
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: is ping importent
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:16 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1297
Location: QUIT!!!!!
Grandpa wrote:
daemon225 wrote:
it was on an earlier thread hes the link

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=88004
Ok, so you are measuring your "internet speed" and NOT your ping to the SRO servers.
That's ok.
Mine is here:

Image

Notice a couple things though. My throughput is currently clocking at ~16.7 mb/s
My current ping (to the Van Server) is 117ms.

This doesn't tell me my throughput (more important) or my ping to the SRO servers.
For instance, I've tested my throughput before at > 20 mb/s

It's a measurement of the relative traffic and data transfer rate between your connection and the server your are testing from. In order to make sense of it (because you're asking, how fast is my internet speed "now" vs. before) you have to do it multiple times.

So if your normal throughput is 15 meg and your normal ping is 31, because you've tested it lots of times... and you notice that you're lagging in SRO, you 'could' run the test right then. That would help you understand if the 'lag' or 'latency' you were experiencing in game was likely due to general network traffic.

But here's my guess: The SRO servers are slowing down (probably). CPU Utilization on the server is normally more significant (given that you have a good connection and a newer comp) than ping.

Sorry this so wordy, just trying to say that "Ping" is only part of the equation.

[EDIT] under spoiler:
Spoiler!

-- sheesh, there I go again... typing too much :oops:

thx now i understand lol

_________________
QUIT!!!(not sro....)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 19 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group