Silkroad Online Forums

Once again, Ann Coulter has produced a brilliant column. Anyone who thinks Biden won the VP debate is simply misinformed. This article points out some of Biden's crucial gaffes. Not surprisingly, FactCheck.org failed to find these tasty gems.

"Pull the hair plug on this guy"
By Ann Coulter
October 8, 2008

If Sarah Palin had made just one of the wildly inaccurate statements smugly uttered by Sen. Joe Biden in last week's vice presidential debate, there would have been 3-inch headlines in newspapers across America. (I can almost hear Katie Couric asking me, "Which newspapers?")

These weren't insignificant errors, such as when Biden said, "Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie's restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time, and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years."

It turns out that Katie's restaurant, where Biden gets his feel for the average American, closed 20 years ago. The only evidence that he spends any time in Home Depot is that it appears that a pipe wrench fell on his head one too many times.

Palin would surely have been forced to withdraw from the ticket had she said something like that, but most of Biden's errors were not trifling mistakes like these. They were lengthy Lyndon LaRouche-like disquisitions that were pure fantasy from beginning to end.

For example, Biden said about Hezbollah: "When we kicked -- along with France -- we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon." Hezbollah was never kicked out of Lebanon.

He continued: "I said and Barack said, 'Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't, Hezbollah will control it.'" This is madness -- Lebanon is not a NATO country, nor had any NATO country been attacked by Lebanon.

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn't picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of foreign policy.

Biden also stoutly denied that Obama ever said he would sit down with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Liberals find it hilarious that McCain can't use a computer keyboard on account of his war injuries, but Biden is apparently unaware of the Internet, because there are clips all over the Internet of Obama saying exactly that during the CNN/YouTube debate last year.

Biden might have remembered that debate since: (1) He was there, and (2) he later attacked Obama's answer, telling the National Press Club in August 2007: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely, positively, no."

And that's still not all! Obama's own Web site says: "Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions."

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn't picked for the Democrat ticket based on his ability to remember well-known facts.

Biden also gave a long speech at the debate on vice president Dick Cheney's "dangerous" belief that "he's part of the legislative branch." The great constitutional scholar Biden cited Article I of the Constitution as proof that Cheney "works in the executive branch" and has "no authority relative to the Congress." Biden huffily added: "He should understand that. Everyone should understand that."

Palin would have had to deny that Alaska is a state in the union in order to say something comparably stupid.

Article II, not I, describes the executive branch. Someone tell Biden, who is supposed to be a lawyer. Apart from getting the Articles of the Constitution mixed up, what on earth does Biden mean when he says that the vice president "has no authority relative to Congress," apart from breaking ties?

The Constitution makes him president of the senate every day of the week. I realize that Biden may not be able to count to two, but Article I says the vice president is president of one of the two houses of Congress -- the one Biden is in, for crying out loud -- which is what you might call "authority relative to Congress."

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn't picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of the Constitution.

In one especially hallucinatory answer, Biden authoritatively stated: "With Afghanistan, facts matter, Gwen. ... We spend more money in three weeks on combat in Iraq than we spent on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country."

According to the Congressional Research Service, since 9/11, we've spent $172 billion in Afghanistan and $653 billion in Iraq. The most money spent in Iraq came in 2008, when we have been spending less than $3 billion a week. So by Biden's calculations, we've spent only about $9 billion "on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country." There isn't even a "9" in $172 billion.

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn't picked for the Democrat ticket based on his knowledge of math.

In the same answer, Biden went on to claim that "John McCain voted against a comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty that every Republican has supported."

The last nuclear test ban treaty the Senate voted on was the one Clinton signed in the '90s. As The New York Times editorialized on the Senate vote a few years later: "Last week, Senate Republicans thundered 'no' to the nuclear test ban treaty, handing the White House its biggest defeat since health care in 1994." Forty-nine Republicans voted against the treaty; only four liberal Republicans voted for it. That's the treaty Biden says "every Republican has supported."

Somebody please tell me that Biden wasn't picked for the Democrat ticket based on his ability to function as vice president.

(From http:www.anncoulter.com.)

So this one person must be right while most other news sources are wrong.

read half the article then stopped.
no one ever said that biden does not make inaccurate statements. they're politicians damit, thats what they do.

the fact is that palin makes MORE of these inaccurate statements or whatever you wanna call them.
obama/biden are just the lesser of two evils IMO.

Edit: Off-Topic: Love that sig of yours meister.

Thx

It's not what you say, it's what the other guy says?

Come on now.

If Palin didn't carry herself like a complete and utter idiot she might have gotten away with the stupid things she lets fly out of her mouth.

That article is like RL trolling.

*waits for Baro*

lol man...

, good choice indeed

It is true that most of the media leans far to the left and is unbalanced.
But off topic, I love your sig on the right man lol

That's how most republican and democratic supporters spread their message. "He's not as bad as the other guy." How about this: They're both terrible choices and I think the MsM is doing a terrible job at being unbiased. The majority lean left and then you have "news" like faux. The reporter supports Palin and is tired of people pointing out her mistakes so he attacks Biden instead of showing how (in his opinion) Palin won the debate. "Biden/Palin won because the other debater was worse: here are some minor mistakes that have absolutely nothing to do with leading a government with a failing economy."
@Tasdik, you should know by know that I don't like the "lesser of two evils" mentality. It really ticks me off when MsM or internet media tries to pass their "lesser of two evils" pile of steaming [...] as important and relevant to the election process. Oh yeah, that's the way to the white house: Make the other two look worse (this implies that both candidates are bad to begin with).

Heres the rundown.
Republican:
McCain: Is a warmongering aggressive lunatic and would be better off as military dictator of a small third world country.
Palin: She should educate herself about her country and stop acting so stupid.

Democrat:
Obama: Is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's no better than McCain. He would be better off as communist dictator in some third world country.
Biden: Unpatriotic, liberty killer.

Overall:
More lipstick on a pig from both of the main parties, more mudslinging from both sides, more wars, more imperialism, more debt, more taxes, weaker economy, weaker dollar, weaker country, and the same incompetent Democrat incumbents in the senate and house with Republicans that are better off in the Democratic party. Both parties might as well fuse and become the Democratic Republican Socialist Party. They stage the debates, they make it near impossible for third parties to compete against their duopoly, they don't represent the people, and they wipe their ass with the constitution.

izmeister is hear by banned from posting in any more threads because we all love his sig to much