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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:43 am 
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lol I bet they are all greedy and want the money :O


how TD is sharing the money?


Pft, they are selling their children for money to buy gold, that honestly dont need money, just skill.

TD splits the money equally among the guilds that participate, and then the leaders decide how to split it. I just give the money out to whoever was at the last fortress and whatever is left over, I give to someone who is poor and could use a little extra money.

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I don't care if they give handouts... They still act like they are 9001x better than everyone else where all they did was play in Euro parties and not buy silk... Sure there server might be a majority of legit players. But the core of that comes from them just doing normal Euro party shit. They advertised it a lot too. On top of being popular with the community they were able to draw tons of people in. People do see this as a legit haven as NightBloom called it. But, beyond that is the truth. They aren't better than anyone else when it comes to playing and it took a lot less effort to do what they've done than it would for someone like me to drag hundreds of legits to Gaia. They are to arrogant for the easy ride they've had to get to where they are, although it might not have been easy it was a hell of a lot easier than it would have been compared to some random guy showing up and doing the same.


I agree with you in the part where you said that it was easier for nb and fly to get more people involved rather than if some random guy and showed up and asked to form a legit guild in the next server. But why do you think it was easier for them? Probably, because they already set an image to the public form their past sro experiences? I mean, after all they have been playing SRO since 2006 and many people in this forum knows them as icons. I don't really know the whole Xian history, but for what I have read and seen, theempire was an anti-bot guild that made lots of bots pissed (eg. DarkJackal).

I'm an old school SROer. I have been in this forum and playing sro since 2006 and I haven't seen legits so determined to get rid off botters than nb and fly.

AND BTW, if you or anyone else think nb/fly/avalon are my friends or anything... they aren't. Hell, I don't even talk to them. So yea...
I'm just a non-party associated just like non_ego_man said.

Sorry, did I misunderstand, and you called DarkJackal a bot that hates Avalon? lmfao.

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lol I bet they are all greedy and want the money :O


how TD is sharing the money?


Pft, they are selling their children for money to buy gold, that honestly dont need money, just skill.

TD splits the money equally among the guilds that participate, and then the leaders decide how to split it. I just give the money out to whoever was at the last fortress and whatever is left over, I give to someone who is poor and could use a little extra money.

black_knigth was in there union for one of the fortess wars and they were greedy as sh1t. I had 1 mil left and asked if they could spare 2, NO IT"S OURS. Then they go and give another player in our guild somegold, not sure how much though.

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Sorry, did I misunderstand, and you called DarkJackal a bot that hates Avalon? lmfao.


DarkJackal was a member of theempire and he made lots of bots go murder status. That's what I meant.

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lol I bet they are all greedy and want the money :O


how TD is sharing the money?


Pft, they are selling their children for money to buy gold, that honestly dont need money, just skill.

TD splits the money equally among the guilds that participate, and then the leaders decide how to split it. I just give the money out to whoever was at the last fortress and whatever is left over, I give to someone who is poor and could use a little extra money.

black_knigth was in there union for one of the fortess wars and they were greedy as sh1t. I had 1 mil left and asked if they could spare 2, NO IT"S OURS. Then they go and give another player in our guild somegold, not sure how much though.


what guild are you talking about?

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Pft, they are selling their children for money to buy gold, that honestly dont need money, just skill.

TD splits the money equally among the guilds that participate, and then the leaders decide how to split it. I just give the money out to whoever was at the last fortress and whatever is left over, I give to someone who is poor and could use a little extra money.

black_knigth was in there union for one of the fortess wars and they were greedy as sh1t. I had 1 mil left and asked if they could spare 2, NO IT"S OURS. Then they go and give another player in our guild somegold, not sure how much though.


what guild are you talking about?

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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Um I'm in Rome =o I don't think anyone even challenged ReBorn...Lol so I bet they're still the fortress keepers. or w/e

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Sorry, did I misunderstand, and you called DarkJackal a bot that hates Avalon? lmfao.


DarkJackal was a member of theempire and he made lots of bots go murder status. That's what I meant.

Ah, ok, good. The way you put it before, made it seem like you said otherwise. :p

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We owned NIKE, _Wazzup_ FTW.

GG you guys I come here cuz I'm legit and all you guys can seem to talk about is bots... Cmon.

Oh congratz NB on going legit... Aww thats right it was that 12 year old botting your character on xian. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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We owned NIKE, _Wazzup_ FTW.

GG you guys I come here cuz I'm legit and all you guys can seem to talk about is bots... Cmon.

Oh congratz NB on going legit... Aww thats right it was that 12 year old botting your character on xian. :roll:

Oh please, so many accusations of nightbloom botting from Xian morons, yet where's the proof? Dozens of people have "seen" it, and yet none of them happened to know how to use Fraps? or Print Screen? Sit down and shut up bitch.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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(I don't think Odin could be even compared to Venus - no offence given). Hence, I guess they have the rights to brag about it? I mean it's a hell of work just to get rid of botters in their server(there is still a few from what I have seen).


Not to start an argument, but I think that having high level, somewhat-competent bots on our server is nice in a way; it gives us someone to hate on, someone to destroy in wars, etc. and we don't have to feel bad about it. Not to mention it also livens the server up having two completely opposite groups competing for the same territory. Venus right now seems just like a no-contest... boring for me... I enjoy Odin just like it is :P...minus the goldbots... but I can't do much about them.



Well then, glad you enjoy playing with the bots. We'd rather have some real competition, not punching bags. :P Besides, get rid of the bots = get rid of the goldfarmers. Maybe not all of them, but a huge chuck of goldfarmers will go.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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Hmmm, I played on Venus yesterday for a while. Honestly, it's a great server with lots of legit and of course drama. I met a couple of Avalon guys and from my own experience they are nice and really hate bots. And of course if you are a bot on this forum you will somewhat hate them and thus replying bad comments towards them to make them look stupid?(even though you are not in their server)(not implying that all people that dispite Avalon are botters).

Avalon says they help noobs by giving them gold or plvl. Well, yesterday I just pmed nb to say hi and nothing more. She gave me 1m, even though I didn't ask for it. 1m is nothing for her (just like any other high lvl... lol). I haven't found many people that just give gold to random people (except myself :P ), so I respect that and what's she's trying to accomplish. I guess she gave me gold to teleport to dw, but not only that... I guess she gave me gold to give me an 'iniciative' to leave my capped char and to play on Venus. I admire that. It seems that Avalon really wanna try and have a fun legit server and I see nothing wrong in that.

So people here, even though some of the Avalon guys might seem 'arrogant' (I agree to some extent), they have accomplished something really big that no one has accomplished - a really legit server (I don't think Odin could be even compared to Venus - no offence given). Hence, I guess they have the rights to brag about it? I mean it's a hell of work just to get rid of botters in their server(there is still a few from what I have seen). So yea... Thumbs up for Venus and what these guys have done and still trying to do.

so they give u 1 mil and u start treating them as god :P. and it looks like another way to show they rule SRO or somethin. giving money wont help make a good server, helping them in other ways, like partying with them (not plvl) will help newbs learn. giving gold out will only make them beg for more gold =/.
@Dark50: i totally agree with you
@ThisIsAvalon: it seems like there is no competition in Venus. Avalon always in fort, not a lot GW as i ve seen =/. oh ya, so u would rather hate legits, rather than bots? goldbuyer will be always around, legit or bot, ppl in sro buy gold (im not accusing u). AND bot guilds will be a harder match up cause they have all suns and 80's and stuff, legit guilds will lvl slower, lesser capped, lesser sox...

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If it were so easy, every one would do it and there wouldnt be a bot problem in SRO.
As for the rest of the silly accusations... pff. It doesnt matter much what you say. I know what we did, how hard it was, what I have to put up with. I am justifiably proud of what legits have accomplished on Venus. I am happy to go give a new legit 1m to get started, money for guild leveling, whatever I gotta do to pave the way for strong, happy legits. I put up with botter enmity on Venus and here in threads like this because it proves what I am doing is working.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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If it were so easy, every one would do it and there wouldnt be a bot problem in SRO.
As for the rest of the silly accusations... pff. It doesnt matter much what you say. I know what we did, how hard it was, what I have to put up with. I am justifiably proud of what legits have accomplished on Venus. I am happy to go give a new legit 1m to get started, money for guild leveling, whatever I gotta do to pave the way for strong, happy legits. I put up with botter enmity on Venus and here in threads like this because it proves what I am doing is working.


I ain't no 'new legit'. I have been and always be legit. Ever since I started in Greece to Pacific and if time allows maybe play on Venus :P .

@SuperTanker: I'm not treating them as Gods - I'm just posting for what I have seen with my own eyes, rather than just make posts about Venus/Avalon without even knowing what it is like over there. And they are doing well by giving 1m to people that are moving from other servers. Especially if these people have high lvls on their current servers. This gold which is nothing on high levels, helps a lot on early lvls. This gold helps them as an initiative for them to stay on Venus and meet new people and more friends. AT the end, if they stay they will eventually learn how to pt. If they don't, well at least they tried (it is hard to leave a capped char behind >.>). So technically, they are helping the server, because they are attracting more and more legits to go to Venus.

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If it were so easy, every one would do it and there wouldnt be a bot problem in SRO.
As for the rest of the silly accusations... pff. It doesnt matter much what you say. I know what we did, how hard it was, what I have to put up with. I am justifiably proud of what legits have accomplished on Venus. I am happy to go give a new legit 1m to get started, money for guild leveling, whatever I gotta do to pave the way for strong, happy legits. I put up with botter enmity on Venus and here in threads like this because it proves what I am doing is working.


I ain't no 'new legit'. I have been and always be legit. Ever since I started in Greece to Pacific and if time allows maybe play on Venus :P .

@SuperTanker: I'm not treating them as Gods - I'm just posting for what I have seen with my own eyes, rather than just make posts about Venus/Avalon without even knowing what it is like over there. And they are doing well by giving 1m to people that are moving from other servers. Especially if these people have high lvls on their current servers. This gold which is nothing on high levels, helps a lot on early lvls. This gold helps them as an initiative for them to stay on Venus and meet new people and more friends. AT the end, if they stay they will eventually learn how to pt. If they don't, well at least they tried (it is hard to leave a capped char behind >.>). So technically, they are helping the server, because they are attracting more and more legits to go to Venus.

You misunderstand her. She's not calling you newly legit, she's calling you a new person to the server, that is legit.

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so they give u 1 mil and u start treating them as god :P. and it looks like another way to show they rule SRO or somethin. giving money wont help make a good server, helping them in other ways, like partying with them (not plvl) will help newbs learn. giving gold out will only make them beg for more gold =/.
@Dark50: i totally agree with you
@ThisIsAvalon: it seems like there is no competition in Venus. Avalon always in fort, not a lot GW as i ve seen =/. oh ya, so u would rather hate legits, rather than bots? goldbuyer will be always around, legit or bot, ppl in sro buy gold (im not accusing u). AND bot guilds will be a harder match up cause they have all suns and 80's and stuff, legit guilds will lvl slower, lesser capped, lesser sox...


Theres a difference between worship and gratitude. If someone gave me 1mil when I first started SRO, I would have gone crazy. Too bad no one had 1mil in the first seconds of when Xian. :D Anyways, its not like we hate the legits, its just friendly competition. And even if it comes down to it, and a legit guild gets on my nerves, yes I would rather hate legits then bots. At least then, I can still RESPECT them, even if I hate them, because I know that they worked for their charactor.

@The goldbot point, in Venus theres maybe 15-25% of the goldbots are player owned. If every player bot left, they would take those goldbots, not to mention the gold companies loss of business. I agree some legits might buy gold, but theres a HIGHER chance of a botter buying gold. Bot guilds will never be a harder match up, theres 5 legits coming in the server for every 1 bot leaving, if theres no bot guilds to match up against, they cant get sox items. (if they are released) Besides, on Venus you don't need to be capped to have fun.

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KUWAIT GOLDBUYERS took the fortress... AGAIN....


CANT WAIT FOR THE EFFIN 90 CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Grrr stupid server traffic. A lot of us tried for our first time to go to Fortress and we couldn't login :oops: :cry:

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We owned NIKE, _Wazzup_ FTW.

GG you guys I come here cuz I'm legit and all you guys can seem to talk about is bots... Cmon.

Oh congratz NB on going legit... Aww thats right it was that 12 year old botting your character on xian. :roll:

Oh please, so many accusations of nightbloom botting from Xian morons, yet where's the proof? Dozens of people have "seen" it, and yet none of them happened to know how to use Fraps? or Print Screen? Sit down and shut up bitch.


OMG... E-Tough-Guy Chill out, I was saying congratz...Its just good to see her being legit. You don't have to get all bent just cuz you are a fan boy of hers. Oh yeah Hint, if you are gonna act like a Tough Guy you might wanna lose the lord of the ring stuff, LoLz.

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You make stupid assumptions based off of nothing. You are very arrogant, yet you are just doing what any normal group of Euros can do. Heck, on top of all this, you aren't even the first to dominate a server with legits.


Don't you make assumptions out of nothing too? Have you ever logged on venus, watched Avalon job or at fortress? Ever seen that?

I dare you to do 1% of what a 8 man party of avalon member can do.

Fly never said he was the 1st one to do this, he even says he got the idea from MaliceArmy, so yeah...?


Well for 1, way to epic fail at quoting...

And seriously. This game is very limited on things you can actually do different than someone else. There is no way they are doing anything that will seriously blow any other Euro party out of the water. They are just normal Euros playing in normal parties. But, on top of that they have huge numbers of people who are at least mildly smart and are able to play well in a party. There is nothing they are doing different or better from normal Euro parties... It's just there numbers and success which makes them seem better.

This game is follow a template, mash buttons and shit works. You insert 8 of one mildly smart person and you have an invincible team. It is that simple. There is nothing they can really do better than anyone who can grasp the concept of how to party...


I dont think they were trying to say they are unique and almighty, and that the only ones who can make a good euro party. they were more saying that the OTHERS(botters) arent so smart they make no competition. so a group of 4 smart people can take a group of 20 brainless botters. you know, a man with 1 eye will be a king on the land of the blind people.

what they did say, that when other people with brains (legits) will get a bit stronger, things are gonna change, and challenge might come to the fortress wars in Venus, but until then, bots are more like cannon fodder as nightbloom said.

from the begining of your posts in this thread u are just trying to defame Avalon, and make their success look meager(out of jealousy ? or fear ?) instead of giving them the credit.
I give all the credits to Avalon, only because it's fair. try being so yourself.

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I'm never going to live this down. Fck. After a recount there were 6 of us. 5 in my party, and one poor lvl 5x wiz that was doing his best to fend them off. Check the Venus section for wakoo's post with a you tube vid of like 8-10 of them chasing him. Wakoo was our driving inspiration in that war. Once I saw we were out numbered 5 to 1 I wanted to give up. We have let to lose a guild war. Even though our legit union is small. We play smart. We are now 5 for 5 against xcalibur. Being is a legit union is simple, don't let the bots beat you. I will only accept defeat from Avalon or BHA. the rest. well, 6vs30. you be the judge.


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Well here comes my wall of text.......(Honestly I don't know how to make it any shorter..lol)....

I don't understand why people put soo much emphasis on the FW being the be all end all of a server. The guilds that hold it derserve to have it. Sure there are some unfair glitches in the FW but remember the game is full of them. Have people really lost sight of the fact that this game is really actually fun? That there are rewarding accomplishments for all players at any level? The fortress war is fun to be in, whether you win or you don't. Of coarse I have only played it in Venus though, so maybe it just don't know that is sucks on what ever server you play on.

My husband and I didn't come to Venus to actually stay. (and I know I am repeating myself here lol) We came to try out Euro char's with out the A-hole players on Venice to deal with. After playing for a couple days, we made a guild so we could have storage, joined a few people to help us level it up for more storage. After a week it was our new home. I have never and will never bot, nor will I understand the drive in those that do. I could not imagine still being stuck on crappy Venice with all the A-hole botters there.

Venus has come to be a place where Bots are not needed to create the drama that some many ppl crave. We legits can be full of drama all on our own. We literally do not need bots for anything. Not for drama, not for a challenge, not for gold, not for honor, not for fun. We disagree, we fight, we party, we celebrate accomplishments, we knock each other down, we pick each other back up. This is the world of being a legit, finger pushing button players, that play fair, play for fun, and play because the game is worth playing.

Avalon does not need to give up the fortress to win it back. That implies that they didn't win it fair and square to begin with. We should hand bots a fortress? They (bots) already get everything else without working for it, why throw them another bone?

Oh yeah, the guildwars with XCalibur get better and better each time. 6 against 25+ was the best! We may not have won a FW, but damn it if we don't kick butt in guild wars. LEGITS to the end!

(I warned you about my wall of text :) **MUAH**

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theempire was an anti-bot guild that made lots of bots pissed (eg. DarkJackal).

Nah, TE had at least one bot that I know of.

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o_O 4 pages of arguments again bots, anti bots, pro legit, showing off, arrogance, venus, anti venus...

btw 3 imperials on the list xD
mercury = yawnzzz, left aft 30min

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oh ya, so u would rather hate legits, rather than bots?

Yes, Legits vs Legits is the way to go. It's versus, not hating. Dont get it wrong. Just think about this, if SRO NEVER have ANY botters at all, shouldnt it be legits vs legits? That's what we want, we want more legits to come, get capped and start playing the way it should be.

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goldbuyer will be always around, legit or bot, ppl in sro buy gold (im not accusing u). AND bot guilds will be a harder match up cause they have all suns and 80's and stuff, legit guilds will lvl slower, lesser capped, lesser sox...

U are wrong, they bought gold, they capped before us and they still lost. And for ur info, we outlvl 80% of the botters here.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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JeeshDragon in Aege; Ty union.

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The biggest guilds may be legit but the smaller ones arent.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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lol I bet they are all greedy and want the money :O


how TD is sharing the money?


Pft, they are selling their children for money to buy gold, that honestly dont need money, just skill.

TD splits the money equally among the guilds that participate, and then the leaders decide how to split it. I just give the money out to whoever was at the last fortress and whatever is left over, I give to someone who is poor and could use a little extra money.

black_knigth was in there union for one of the fortess wars and they were greedy as sh1t. I had 1 mil left and asked if they could spare 2, NO IT"S OURS. Then they go and give another player in our guild somegold, not sure how much though.


black_knigth was not in TearDrop union, never have been. You a wannabe lol. You talk trash against us but you are lying about your guild that doesn't even have its name spelled correctly being in our union for fortress war.

Riiiiiiight... :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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If it were so easy, every one would do it and there wouldnt be a bot problem in SRO.


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