Battle of the STR builds.

Ash · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 585 **Location:** Earth

Best pvp build in this cap is warrior/cleric

BUT

You'll need a lot of sp . You'll spend a lot of gold on speed scrolls . You won't kill any unique in your own level . usually unique killers are (wizard,rogues,nukers,bowers) by this order.

Firetruck · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 136 **Location:**

BloodyBlade wrote:

Rogue, they can easily win with stealth ^_^

pk2

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

RogueKiller wrote:

Oh god not again.
Alright I'll say this once. Every build has its ups and downs each cap.
For Chinese it is: (Pure str)
60 Cap- Glaive owned
70 Cap- Glaive owned
80 Cap- Bow owned
90 Cap- Blade owns
100 Cap- Bow (So I'm told)

I dont know about Euros because they havent been around long enough but it works in a similar manner. Your never going to get anywhere picking the build thats good this cap. Your just going to end up restarting next cap when its not as good. Your never going to get anywhere picking a build you may not like but still might be good.

i thought ice bladers owned in 60 cap

and bow pre -euro didnt have any status skills and strongbow took very long to use :\.

btw 1h/lock is a pretty good build aswell

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

RogueKiller wrote:

Oh god not again.
Alright I'll say this once. Every build has its ups and downs each cap.
For Chinese it is: (Pure str)
60 Cap- Glaive owned
70 Cap- Glaive owned
80 Cap- Bow owned
90 Cap- Blade owns
100 Cap- Bow (So I'm told)

I dont know about Euros because they havent been around long enough but it works in a similar manner. Your never going to get anywhere picking the build thats good this cap. Your just going to end up restarting next cap when its not as good. Your never going to get anywhere picking a build you may not like but still might be good.

i thought ice bladers owned in 60 cap

and bow pre -euro didnt have any status skills and strongbow took very long to use :\.

btw 1h/lock is a pretty good build aswell

60 Cap: Ice Blader
70 Cap: Glaive
80 Cap pre-Euro: Glaive
80 Cap post-Euro: Bow
90 Cap: Blade
100 Cap: Don't know

AkillerNXC · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1014 **Location:**

Warrior/cleric hands down. Bladers are good but only against chinese or euro ints.

Rogue/cleric is the worst build ever. It sucks in 1v1, it sucks in group pvp, it sucks in leveling.

Kayson · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 407 **Location:**

AkillerNXC wrote:

Rogue/cleric is the worst build ever. It sucks in 1v1, it sucks in group pvp, it sucks in leveling.

Do you have any experience with rogue/cleric? because you're the first to say they're the worst build. Which I don't see how it's true. They have many pluses I have found.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

AkillerNXC wrote:

Warrior/cleric hands down. Bladers are good but only against chinese or euro ints.

Rogue/cleric is the worst build ever. It sucks in 1v1, it sucks in group pvp, it sucks in leveling.

O.O" HOW DARE YOU! Rogue/Cleric is poon-sauce. You just need to play it right.

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

if i can pick a build i say bow, but every build is strong.

allinmustwin · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 82 **Location:** usa

Rouges and wizards can be owned sure and easy but, its the person behind these chars that make the difference.., Euro chars are built for strategic play. Its one of the reasons Chinese chars get owned a lot by euros. Chinese chars are used to the press 1,2,3,4,5 and hope for the best but and the person above mentioned each battle requires a different method of attack..
Now pvp becomes useless at the stage where rouges and wizards can go invisible.This is one reason i don't pvp. I tell the other char who want to pvp me to wait at one spot then i go invisible and one shot own them and they tell me that's cheating . But im just using the skills that i have for my char, nothing more nothing less.
PVP therefore is a dying sport at least the way it used to be with before the euro update. Things have changed and pvp has being taking on a new style..

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

allinmustwin wrote:

Rouges and wizards can be owned sure and easy but, its the person behind these chars that make the difference.., Euro chars are built for strategic play. Its one of the reasons Chinese chars get owned a lot by euros. Chinese chars are used to the press 1,2,3,4,5 and hope for the best but and the person above mentioned each battle requires a different method of attack..
Now pvp becomes useless at the stage where rouges and wizards can go invisible.This is one reason i don't pvp. I tell the other char who want to pvp me to wait at one spot then i go invisible and one shot own them and they tell me that's cheating . But im just using the skills that i have for my char, nothing more nothing less.
PVP therefore is a dying sport at least the way it used to be with before the euro update. Things have changed and pvp has being taking on a new style..

problem is people still try to consider cape fighting pvp, cape fights were always meant to be like sparring matches not the main focus of all things pvp. True pvp is what happens on job runs, tactics co-operation from scouters tactical positioning of attacks, faking the dead trader out on which direction you are going to run to as he watches to tell his hunters to go south when you've gone east out of his sight. Of course all these tactics were still valid when china was all we had, stealth just throws a new style of tactics out there, where as you can have rogue/bard be your scout and him not get killed, a form of jobbing where you can make use of your low lvl mates effectivly. People say stealth is cheap but they just fail to make good use of their own skills or detect pots, after all it can take 2 to 4 stealth cycles for a rogue to catch up to a trade where as by this time you should have notices him restealthing. Of course a sub bard can catch up with in one, or with a speed pot. Rogues and wizzards just don't fit in with cape fights the same, but they truely are kings of jobbing except for when noobs can just pk2 see you, how ever a cross bow can still take them out before you get touched

kthnxbai · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Depends on the person behind the character if both have same or almost same equips.

Ild say bladers always did and will own in 1vs1, warrior cleric? wdf, lol.. kd and u cant cast healings, with pot delays and even vigors i dont have probs with them QQ

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

I Pk I wrote:

I think its rogue because:
They got like a 20m range
They hit like a nuker and wizard
They have stealth
They tank

So a pure str blader will probably die quickly if rogue is far away and is on stealth mode, which I believe goes away when fightning.

lol, you think rogues hit like wizzards? (if they dont crit)
you think rogues with extreme or DD on can tank ?:P
i admit, they crit very hard... but they aint really 2 hard to kill ...

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

LillDev!l wrote:

I Pk I wrote:

I think its rogue because:
They got like a 20m range
They hit like a nuker and wizard
They have stealth
They tank

So a pure str blader will probably die quickly if rogue is far away and is on stealth mode, which I believe goes away when fightning.

lol, you think rogues hit like wizzards? (if they dont crit)
you think rogues with extreme or DD on can tank ?:P
i admit, they crit very hard... but they aint really 2 hard to kill ...

the higher they get the easier it is to kill a full rogue..

a rogue cleric however, can becoming annoying

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