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wow ... if that the case, bad as it may sound, do u think we should make the gold companies go bust by messing them up with charge backs? die gold bots ... die ...

He wont get banned or anything, thats how some egyptians got rich lol, buy gold, chargeback, sell it back

probably will get hacked, since they cant sue him, they will just hack him. delete his char etc.

I suppose I should have spelled it out for you. Gold selling companies sell gold for more than one game. Like uh I dunno PW SRO WoW Eve etc. Just because I was contacting them over legitimate PW business does not mean that they are a PW only company. But that is as hard as I will hammer you on that as I could have been a bit more clear.



No one lives from farming gold on SRO alone. Not even the gold selling companies. We have already been over this. You are simply trying to redefine something to fit your views. You are trying to set up classes of amature and pro and then saying the amature ones are not simply because in your eyes they are not pro. That is an invalid argument.



Neither one of us has any real insight on this hopefully right? Though I do know of a botter or two running more than 30+ farm bots or at least they used to back when I was still playing on xian. Your argument is to redefine yourself to be right. Yet you are still not totally right and can't ever be on this. It is a fact that in better run games chinese gold farmers are very common. But even they deal with the middle men companies that actually sell the gold to the clients themselves. And I don't care how little you pay the chinese to farm gold but it is to much in SRO since you can bot the gold with impunity for nothing more than cost of hardware and electricity.

so when a botter does this you call them a botter and ccf'er but when a "legit" does this you guys all hop on board and cheer thinking you're screwing over gold companies? All you want is something for nothing if you do that, you're no different then a botter or ccf'er then. The only way your intentions would be anywhere close to good is if you somehow destroyed the gold after you got it but everyone knows you're far to selfish for that. Bunch of hypocrites, really.

Exactly what I thought.. lol.

you suck at thinking, please blow out ur brains, kk thx

uhm, i saw many ppl in exposed botter section use more than 30+ clients

If someone sends me 5$ on Paypal (A), and if I send that cash on another Paypal (B) account, and close my Paypal (A) account, can that cash be chargebacked from user that sent 5$ on Paypal (A) account?

yes , and ull have a negative amount on the one that got charged back , after some time (and big enuff amount) ull have the feds on ur ass , its no joke .


btw ping lo are u a computer ? [ERROR_INVALID_ARGUMENT] lmao

o.o

Nah I am just not up for playing definition games. Gold farmers farm gold whether it is on one acct or 200+. This whole "they do the exact same thing but in my eyes do it less so they are not the same thing" argument does not work on any level. Ok they do it less. But they are still farming.

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Alright, my mistake on that part then.






Actually. I've been talking to them, you can ask them ingame for their QQ if you're interested. It's not about pro and amature, but it's about that they _NEED_ to do it to live, I've been talking to some who do have such jobs, and they get like 6 dollars per day. You do know that the most common job in china is gold farming for mmorpg's? I don't even play sro anymore, but it's good to understand the whole situation.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/08/stu ... -farm.html
The vast majority (80 percent) of the industry is based in China, and employs roughly 400,000 people who earn monthly wages of $142, on average.




The problem is, that they are lying, you _THINK_ that they run 30+ chars, not to mention that there is limit that allows only 30 clients to be connected to the gameserver from the same ip. Alright, let's do the math, I've just checked bot***.com and found the prices.

One Botcard: $35
Amount: 720 Hours ( one char )

Now, let's say the botter you know runs 30 chars, that would mean that he needs to buy every 24 hours a botcard which costs $35, kinda expensive, don't you think? With $35 you can buy nowdays around what? 150-200m ? And can he farm 200m daily? with 30 chars? Traffic on xian? I doubt it. and I didn't understood the part "And I don't care how little you pay the chinese" :o I don't pay anyone, you may tell me what you meant with that sentence.

"But even they deal with the middle men companies that actually sell the gold to the clients themselves."

I never said they don't, goldfarmers farm it, and resell it to the middle men company's like you have stated already, which I agree to. I don't think there's anything more left to answer to, kinda late here so I may have forgotten something. :p[/quote]

Errrrrr I even said that Chinese gold farmers are common for WoW or other MMOs where the admins do actual work. That I never disagreed with. My only quibble was with them doing it on SRO. So you are saying the robots slamming the server have chinese nationality? That is very progressive as even here in the US they don't yet acknowledge robot rights or proper AI sentience let alone give them citizenship. LOL in fact they are more concerned with taking away rights rather than giving but I digress hehe.

I know for a fact that chinese gold farmers used to be involved in SRO. And they didn't really use bots ever. There used to be 1 star trades going all day long from don to hotan. Same char all day same routes. The char were run by chinese gold farmers. All you would have to do is run up and shout nihao or anything else in chinese and you might likely get a lot more in response. Some even spoke enough english to hold a conversation with those of us that can't actually speak mandarin, cantonese etc. Those guys I honestly had no problem with. Because we could 1* pop them and they were actually there. XD



Ummmm few problems here.
1.
Ok maybe you can only run 30 from 1 IP. My ISP is really stingey and only gives me 2ip. So doesn't that mean then I can run 60 if I tried? Even with that bots grinding on low level mobs don't need low latency. I could route the traffic out of my network any number of ways to other IP and have no real issues. It is in fact possible for someone at home to run client traffic over TOR real easy. I played PW like that for the better part of a month due to the fact that the trans atlantic cables had been severed and all normal routing was impossible.

2.
Eh lots of the guys that admitted to me they botted were using all sorts of cracked and free bots. Any they used the pay bots only used it on their actual accts and not the farmers.



I have always agreed that the chinese have a huge presence in gold farming. Never disputed it. Thing is even though such activity is illegal I still have some respect for them as they are actually doing it themselves and not some program running on a CPU. The farmers we had/have on SRO are nothing but bots like most of those that claim to play the game yet don't. And most of them are not from china.