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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:15 pm 
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none of them are clientless bots

clientless bot is a program that lets u log in.. lets say 40 Chars on one PC(this is what gold companies do) i think it does not show the game, only a tab at the bottom of ur screen.. i also dont know how they set it up if they cant see the game.. unless it is programed in to the clientless bot when they make a new char.. e.g levels up skills change traning place when this lvl.. ect..
it also logs u in to game... (does not show image code) because it is clientless.. it does not load up the client thats why u can log in as many chars as u want.

how do i know this? because i read 0x33 forums aswell

i was gonna add some thing else to that.. but i forgot Y__Y



Fyi, clientless still needs image code :p

lol k.. some one told me it doesnt... but im sure all the other info i gave is right ^___^

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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:07 pm 
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yes they ban my account and already have silk on it but i still can log in the site with it and still can charge silk but cant log in the game http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=696439


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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:10 pm 
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yadem wrote:
yes they ban my account and already have silk on it but i still can log in the site with it and still can charge silk but cant log in the game http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=696439



maybe u should read all the posts... it does not matter if u buy silk..

also many chars in my union that was banned on the bot list are now unbanned and some char from 70cap are unbanned... JM fuxed up again?

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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:18 pm 
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GoogleVsYahoo wrote:
yadem wrote:
yes they ban my account and already have silk on it but i still can log in the site with it and still can charge silk but cant log in the game http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=696439



maybe u should read all the posts... it does not matter if u buy silk..

also many chars in my union that was banned on the bot list are now unbanned and some char from 70cap are unbanned... JM fuxed up again?

yes that tru many banned players are back but i am still blocked why??? i have i still have silk on my account how i can tell him about mine?


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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:24 pm 
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phulshof wrote:
I think Joymax should forget the past, start enforcing the rules now, and start with a 3 strike policy:
1. one week ban
2. one month ban
3. 100 year ban
I bet that most of the botters will quit botting, but continue to play the game as soon as the first people have received their week long ban. Most of them are just botting now because they can, and because they dislike being passed over by all these bots getting SUN equipment simply because they grind 8 times longer than legits.

IIRC, they used to have that as their policy in the ToS before they editted it, it may still be there now.

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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:26 pm 
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JM is giving back accounts where the players do a charge back on.


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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
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Taelys wrote:
JM is giving back accounts where the players do a charge back on.

too bad i used e pin not paybal as it is safe and faster :( :(


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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:43 pm 
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Crumpets wrote:
Fyi, clientless still needs image code :p


They do, but gold companies have an auto image code. Basically it enters itself.

@yadem Do you understand? Buy silk or not.. if the auto detection finds something wrong you're insta-banned. You can't do nothing about it since Joymax doesn't need 'proof'.

Silk is not a protection for people to bot or not to get banned. It never was. It was just that.. the staff doesn't go in the servers like old times and gather names. Its all by auto detection.(Or I still assume, because I doubt that they go in the game and gather 10,000 gold bot accounts)

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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:02 am 
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Its not by auto-detection. I have a theory, and I believe that bans are caused by incorrect op-codes as far as I can gather. Basically, Clientless bots, since they are clientless, do not recieve the same updates as a Client version will, and usually everytime there is a new update, Joymax changes opcodes around -- usually simple things such as what NPC code this character is, or whatever it may be. Point being, since clientless bots never update themselves, they will send the wrong codes, and Joymax detects this anomaly and figures its a bot, then adds that name to the banlist. Now, if I assume my theory is right, that is how some people with even Legit Clients get banned, because either an error in their SRO_client.exe that is sending the wrong op-code. And on the flipside, explains why most client side (player bots) don't get banned, because they correctly update their clients every week, and their op-codes get updated as well.

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 Post subject: Re: JOYMAX realy bans bots that buy silk???
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If they're not doing it by hand then its auto detection of something. Still auto either way.

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