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 Post subject: Chinese Force,
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:10 am 
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Im just wondering,as a Pure Str Chinese, after level 100 cap, we will be going to 110 cap so you will have to choose between your weapon skillz and either a force skill like FIRE/ LIGHTNING/ COLD Or The FORCE force skills,

if you stop leveling the force skillz your debuffs wont work anymore (eventually) and if you stop leveling eg Fire your phy attack will go down,

So im wondering will Force ever get their own imbue?
like a hp drain or mp drain added to the attacks, and adding like a few percentage dmg

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:39 am 
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Doubt it but I'm pretty sure a debuffed opponent is hit for as much (or more) then when you hit a not debuffed opponent with imbue : )

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Dont mean to seem like an asshole, but anyway.

Firstly, you are currently level 2x according to your sig. If you're legit, you will not reach 90 for severals months, and thats providing you buy tickets and dont farm, with share parties of course.

Now, you are probably like most people. You will not buy a ticket, and you will get bored of leveling and give up, then come back here and complain that its too hard to level.

Secondly, or Thirdly, 100 cap will not be until next summer (in my opinion, and many other peoples), and you wont need to worry about 110 cap until 2010 at the earliest... If it EVER comes that is. Bots will probably rule silkroad by 100 cap and the game will close before 110 cap.

Harsh, but (probably) true.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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What has his lvl to do with it? He's just wondering if force gets an imbue O_o

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Yea, the people that plan the most will give up half way lol mostly around the 60s when they realize how hard it is to get SP.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Lempi wrote:
Dont mean to seem like an asshole, but anyway.

Firstly, you are currently level 2x according to your sig. If you're legit, you will not reach 90 for severals months, and thats providing you buy tickets and dont farm, with share parties of course.
what does my char i made 4 days ago have to do with this?

Now, you are probably like most people. You will not buy a ticket, and you will get bored of leveling and give up, then come back here and complain that its too hard to level.
My "noobie char" has premium plus and a grab pet,

Secondly, or Thirdly, 100 cap will not be until next summer (in my opinion, and many other peoples), and you wont need to worry about 110 cap until 2010 at the earliest... If it EVER comes that is. Bots will probably rule silkroad by 100 cap and the game will close before 110 cap.
So long Bots pay joymax enough silkroad will never close

Harsh, but (probably) true.


Now please dont be a **** and answer properly

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Yea, the people that plan the most will give up half way lol mostly around the 60s when they realize how hard it is to get SP.

Sorry for double post but, i wont give up i have a 76 char on olympus i just gave that one up cuz i decided to go to venus
srsly why do all you people think that most people wont ever reach cap

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Phix wrote:
marjin_boo wrote:
Yea, the people that plan the most will give up half way lol mostly around the 60s when they realize how hard it is to get SP.

Sorry for double post but, i wont give up i have a 76 char on olympus i just gave that one up cuz i decided to go to venus
srsly why do all you people think that most people wont ever reach cap

Well, good luck to you, and if you believe you can get to 90 and beyond, good on you.

Im just speaking from experience, as i said, it's just my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Lempi wrote:
Phix wrote:
marjin_boo wrote:
Yea, the people that plan the most will give up half way lol mostly around the 60s when they realize how hard it is to get SP.

Sorry for double post but, i wont give up i have a 76 char on olympus i just gave that one up cuz i decided to go to venus
srsly why do all you people think that most people wont ever reach cap

Well, good luck to you, and if you believe you can get to 90 and beyond, good on you.

Im just speaking from experience, as i said, it's just my opinion.

And what is your lvl? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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VeniVidiVici wrote:
And what is your lvl? :roll:

90, 86, 72, 58.
Playing since 60 cap.
Played and made videos on Jsro, Ksro and Vsro.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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if force were to get an imbue with a slight hp leech, str characters would dominate

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
if force were to get an imbue with a slight hp leech, str characters would dominate


That would be awesome

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
if force were to get an imbue with a slight hp leech, str characters would dominate


even without hp leech, they could change it to mp leech, OR just a dmg incease like the fire imbue without added efect?

just some dmg increase

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Lempi wrote:
VeniVidiVici wrote:
And what is your lvl? :roll:

90, 86, 72, 58.
Playing since 60 cap.
Played and made videos on Jsro, Ksro and Vsro.

:roll:


add it to ur resume/ curriculum, and get a life.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Force should get a poision imbue, or mabye even zombie, or both, just thinking along the lines that so far all imbue effects can be pilled off, and ice has 2 effects while the other trees have one, so it would balance it out a bit if force got an imbue that also had 2 effects.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:14 am 
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force dont need no imbue

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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selenne wrote:
Lempi wrote:
VeniVidiVici wrote:
And what is your lvl? :roll:

90, 86, 72, 58.
Playing since 60 cap.
Played and made videos on Jsro, Ksro and Vsro.

:roll:


add it to ur resume/ curriculum, and get a life.

arent we talking abt sro?
or you just cant differenciate it?

which dam point shows he dont hv a "life"? :roll:

opps offtopic..my bad!

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Chinese need an absolute damage skill. Force feels like it's the perfect tree for such skills.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:24 am 
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Lempi wrote:
Dont mean to seem like an asshole, but anyway.

Firstly, you are currently level 2x according to your sig. If you're legit, you will not reach 90 for severals months, and thats providing you buy tickets and dont farm, with share parties of course.

Now, you are probably like most people. You will not buy a ticket, and you will get bored of leveling and give up, then come back here and complain that its too hard to level.

Secondly, or Thirdly, 100 cap will not be until next summer (in my opinion, and many other peoples), and you wont need to worry about 110 cap until 2010 at the earliest... If it EVER comes that is. Bots will probably rule silkroad by 100 cap and the game will close before 110 cap.

Harsh, but (probably) true.


Don't mean to be an asshole, or maybe I am... anyway.

This isn't what he asked for and so completely lacks relevant content. I think everyone here knows it's hard to get to cap and I know Phix from Olympus, he's got a 76+ char there but got bored with the server and started anew. He will probably reach the cap before it's raised to 100 if he stays motivated enough by guildmates/friends on Venus.

To answer your question Phix, in my personal opinion Force should be disgarded @ 100 cap. It's best to focuss on your main weapon and force masteries because all force adds is debuffs and getting rid of status you get from others. Most weapon masteries have a skill that gives status @ 100 cap from what I've heard, so the strongest reason for having force (the debuffs) has become superfluous to some extent.

I guess it's up to everyone to decide what to do with it but having 3 masteries lvl 100 with one of them being force I think isn't the best thing. Other force masteries will carry better advantages for most STR builds.

Hope this helps you to decide on what you're going to do when it's time to finalize your build :)

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Force doesn't have an imbue as it is a support based tree. Heal people, throw in debuffs, more healing, cure stats, more healing, stun ( at 110 ), more healing..

For a 1v1 based build, it doesn't quite work without an imbue. But since its a support tree, it shouldn't really get one. Imagine it like the chinese version of a cleric.

At least thats what i think.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Lempi wrote:
Bots will probably rule silkroad


The game is ruled by bots anyway...

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
if force were to get an imbue with a slight hp leech, str characters would dominate


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Force doesn't have an imbue as it is a support based tree. Heal people, throw in debuffs, more healing, cure stats, more healing, stun ( at 110 ), more healing..

For a 1v1 based build, it doesn't quite work without an imbue. But since its a support tree, it shouldn't really get one. Imagine it like the chinese version of a cleric.

At least thats what i think.


yeah but a cleric (like other euro builds besides rouge) dont have/ need imbue, due to their uber opness without imbue After 100 cap, there will be a hug eproblem for people that would like to use force as chinese, due to the no imbue...
i will probably keep my blader when it hits cap even if its at 100 with force, and choose to delevel fire to 80 and add weapon and force to 110, but we will see or maybe not..

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Force,
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Yea, the people that plan the most will give up half way lol mostly around the 60s when they realize how hard it is to get SP.

lol exactly what happened to me ,i gave up the whole game xD

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