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Goseki
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Post subject: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:26 am |
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Srsly, with just 1 warrior/cleric, a fight can NEVER end...
Joymax really needs to remove that skill completely, it sucks.
We went to the kill the job cave uniques, 5 thieves. We run into a party of 8 euros, tough right? NP, we manage to kill them all, cept the warrior who instantly teleports and runs away. He comes back and resses the other cleric and boom, endless cycle of black res. We killed their entire team like 9 times over the course of 30 mins. After that they managed to gather another party so it's 16 vs 5. Black res should have a cooldown time similar to the mask-making skill or something. Like 30 mins or an hour minimum. So you can only use it once in a fight. If we had a warrior, like a few nights ago, it would've been a res war for hours...
Anyone else see a plus side to black res? Just seems to make the game fcked up.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:35 am |
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You sound like an angry chinese who just got raped by euros.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:38 am |
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Tasdik wrote: You sound like an angry chinese who just got raped by euros.
Oh wait. I don't mind getting raped if it was a decent fight. Watching idiots run around in black res for 30 mins until another party shows up to back them up is just lame. Last time I went we had a cleric of our own. That fight lasted almost 3 hours. We left out of sheer boredom. Same group of 8v8. Black res makes fights boring. There's almost no risk anymore, you die, you come back and are safe for a good 5 mins while fcking around.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:43 am |
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This game was never designed to be pvp lol. It's just grind grind grind. Everything is grind oriented. Every new patch/update brings yet another way of grind grind grinding. good grinding to you.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:03 am |
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i quit in 90 cap thanks to black res. and the cleric out of job suits ressing.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:08 am |
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The euro race needs to be re-examined and have their skills re-designed.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:14 am |
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There use to be a few counters to black res. But joymax removed them. 1 was rouge scorn spam to prevent the cleric from resing people. But joymax added 30 sec cooldown to stop that. 2 was warlock panic that worked through holy spell making it possible to kill a black resed person, joymax also put a stop to that too.
If they can increase cooldown to scorn, surely black res cooldown can be increased....
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:17 am |
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Black ress needs something like you can only ress the person once in 30 to 45 minutes. with the skill, after that normal ress only.
That should help alot. I try not to use black ress while I use my euro, I know how gay the skill is.. I tend to try to stay away from group fights they always end up black ress events and a battle of who is willing to be the most annoying..
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:27 am |
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Another bug similar to black res.
When jobbing, a low lvl can run up to you and kill your transport, but when you kill him, he can instantly res himself. So basically you can kill him all you want, you won't be able to summon or get your transport to town.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:38 am |
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BuDo wrote: The euro race needs to be re-examined and have their skills re-designed. That can be said for the chinese race as well. Talking mainly about bowers, pretty sure it should be illegal to kb someone to death. So annoying.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:51 am |
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Sure, annoying. That's the purpose of it? Nah, but seriously though, I don't see the big problem here? You killed the guys party over and over again. Why does it matter if they ressed all the time?
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:54 am |
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Tasdik wrote: BuDo wrote: The euro race needs to be re-examined and have their skills re-designed. That can be said for the chinese race as well. Yes. The moving speed of the chinese should be increased already. Why doesn't Isro get any updates related to skill changes that every other Sro has?
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:16 am |
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I knew there was a problem with black res from the day I encountered it in a group pvp fight.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:54 pm |
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ltsune wrote: Sure, annoying. That's the purpose of it? Nah, but seriously though, I don't see the big problem here? You killed the guys party over and over again. Why does it matter if they ressed all the time? It's stupid that even though you can kill someone over and over, they will always come back invincible for a good 3 or 5 mins. It sucks cuz the bigger the party, the harder it is to completely kill them due to black res. Also makes big pvp like fw stupid. 8-man party can make it all the way to the heart thanks to black res, unless the ENTIRE guild comes and attacks them non-stop.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:36 pm |
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Just wait 2 minutes untill his black ress is over.
He wont kill you in that 2 minutes either, cuz his damage sucks.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:39 pm |
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Gladiator_RN wrote: Just wait 2 minutes untill his black ress is over.
He wont kill you in that 2 minutes either, cuz his damage sucks. Normally no, but in the job cave where the uniques are hitting you for 10-15k, it gets annoying. Not to mention the warriors start spamming kb kd dull etc. while they are in black res.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:06 pm |
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Redo the entire Euro race, that should be a start...
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JuelzSantana wrote: technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds
im telling i never lose to chinese
edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:15 pm |
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Not necessarily. A simple solution is:
Reduce Black res time to only once every hour. Normal res is once every 15 mins. Cleric heal is related to int points, not rod. Warrior needs a longer cooldown on dd or reduce the chance of kb.
Euros having high dmg i'm cool with. It's the heals and res that pisses me off the most. Without it, they crumple when they solo. This would actually make euros the race it was meant to be. You need an INT cleric to keep the party alive while the warrior buffs and bards reduce dmg. Not 1 warrior cleric keeping an 8-man team alive through black res and fencing. That's also the reason a lot of noobs are able to bring their bots to pvp. You don't really need to do much at all, just let the pure str spam heals. Not like anyone is gonna kill a warrior while he's fenced and in immolation mode.
I was pvping a warrior buddy and when he spams kb kd etc. It's almost as bad as bower spamming kb. You can't really attack back at all...
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:27 pm |
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Good ideas, but I have a really good idea for wizards. Reduce their dmg so that when they use LT they do the same ammount of damage as they do today without it, maybe a little bit higher. But today it's just way to high damage when using LT...
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JuelzSantana wrote: technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds
im telling i never lose to chinese
edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:29 pm |
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antics wrote: i quit in 90 cap thanks to black res. and the cleric out of job suits ressing. the fck? I just spent a minute watching some teenager getting shot over and over....dude you want me to turn into some kind of murdering psycopath don't you? OnTopic: tl;dr is: black ress sux so lets kill it? I can already imagine the multitude of players crying and whining about how JM/WM is just making the game more shitty or smthing and spamming about how the game sux more and more, that is to say that you are part of a minority against the skill... 
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:38 pm |
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aishsharma wrote: antics wrote: i quit in 90 cap thanks to black res. and the cleric out of job suits ressing. the fck? I just spent a minute watching some teenager getting shot over and over....dude you want me to turn into some kind of murdering psycopath don't you?  That "teenager", is Justin Bieber. The most horrible transvestite the world has ever seen. And I enjoy seing him getting shot.
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JuelzSantana wrote: technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds
im telling i never lose to chinese
edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:37 pm |
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Goseki wrote: Not necessarily. A simple solution is:
Reduce Black res time to only once every hour. Normal res is once every 15 mins. Cleric heal is related to int points, not rod. Warrior needs a longer cooldown on dd or reduce the chance of kb.
Euros having high dmg i'm cool with. It's the heals and res that pisses me off the most. Without it, they crumple when they solo. This would actually make euros the race it was meant to be. You need an INT cleric to keep the party alive while the warrior buffs and bards reduce dmg. Not 1 warrior cleric keeping an 8-man team alive through black res and fencing. That's also the reason a lot of noobs are able to bring their bots to pvp. You don't really need to do much at all, just let the pure str spam heals. Not like anyone is gonna kill a warrior while he's fenced and in immolation mode.
I was pvping a warrior buddy and when he spams kb kd etc. It's almost as bad as bower spamming kb. You can't really attack back at all... Those are great ideas. That would make Chinese Force users more wanted in pts.  We should also get the update where the u must have the rod on in order to have Bless Spell on this way u can't attack by urself when u want more survivability. Same with warrior buffs.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:47 pm |
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aishsharma wrote: tl;dr is: black ress sux so lets kill it? I can already imagine the multitude of players crying and whining about how JM/WM is just making the game more shitty or smthing and spamming about how the game sux more and more, that is to say that you are part of a minority against the skill...  I can't imagine anyone with a brain that would complain about the removal of black res. Most ppl agree that it's pointless and sucks.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:20 pm |
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Goseki wrote: aishsharma wrote: tl;dr is: black ress sux so lets kill it? I can already imagine the multitude of players crying and whining about how JM/WM is just making the game more shitty or smthing and spamming about how the game sux more and more, that is to say that you are part of a minority against the skill...  I can't imagine anyone with a brain that would complain about the removal of black res. Most ppl agree that it's pointless and sucks. Yep, only people that would miss it is turks that spam noob because they can 1 hit you in LC even though they are only lvl 68 while you are 85 and they have a SUN staff... (Yes it has happened and I have pics of it)
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JuelzSantana wrote: technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds
im telling i never lose to chinese
edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:24 pm |
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Goseki wrote: aishsharma wrote: tl;dr is: black ress sux so lets kill it? I can already imagine the multitude of players crying and whining about how JM/WM is just making the game more shitty or smthing and spamming about how the game sux more and more, that is to say that you are part of a minority against the skill...  I can't imagine anyone with a brain that would complain about the removal of black res. Most ppl agree that it's pointless and sucks. Sadly this game is mostly played by turks and egyptians. Wich will be fun as hell to watch raging about it.
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:36 pm |
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Legs wrote: Sadly this game is mostly played by turks and egyptians. Wich will be fun as hell to watch raging about it. Let's collect a namelist and send to JM/WM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING BLACK RESS RAISE YOUR HANDS!*Everybody except the turks raises their hands*ALRIGHT, THOSE IN FAVOR: 300. BLACK RESS IS NOT REMOVED!... 
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JuelzSantana wrote: technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds
im telling i never lose to chinese
edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:37 pm |
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apan wrote: Goseki wrote: aishsharma wrote: tl;dr is: black ress sux so lets kill it? I can already imagine the multitude of players crying and whining about how JM/WM is just making the game more shitty or smthing and spamming about how the game sux more and more, that is to say that you are part of a minority against the skill...  I can't imagine anyone with a brain that would complain about the removal of black res. Most ppl agree that it's pointless and sucks. Yep, only people that would miss it is turks that spam noob because they can 1 hit you in LC even though they are only lvl 68 while you are 85 and they have a SUN staff... (Yes it has happened and I have pics of it) If you are INT yes That's why I'm playing my bower instead of my lovely nuker with +8 sword 
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:41 pm |
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i guess u can stay optimistic, but think back to the last time joymax actually did any balancing in this game, or even change any class dramatically after updates. clearly joymax thinks they created a perfect game with perfect classes. only time they actually i've heard of JM changing any skill was the holy spell on ksro(100% resist down to like 50% or something).
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Post subject: Re: Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:44 pm |
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Tasdik wrote: You sound like an angry chinese who just got raped by euros.
Oh wait. thats pretty ignorant, pretty sure the same could be done with a couple of clerics and a bunch of chinese...
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