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Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.


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Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.



How bout you wait and see and stop makin others go gay about it.

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no need to make a thread about this anyways..

isro = lvl 90 and that's it.

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Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.



How bout you wait and see and stop makin others go gay about it.


+1 I agree. whatever they say I'll go 1:2 int hybird.

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Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.



How bout you wait and see and stop makin others go gay about it.



good response lol....

yea just wait and see

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no need to make a thread about this anyways..

isro = lvl 90 and that's it.

o'rly :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Over 90k HP without Bonus?
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Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.



And how exactly did you get those numbers? Did you pull them outta your ass? LOL

Here's the correct amount:
A pure STR will have 117,762 HP naked at lvl 150
A pure INT will have 32,308 HP naked at lvl 150

How do I know? I reversed engineer the game and here is the computer source code algorithms that calculate the HP you have if you are a Pure build:

sHP = int(pow(1.02,(pbv-1))*((pbv-1)*4+20)*10);


I'll translate the code to human math so you can paste the formula in google.com and it will calculate the HP for you.

Instruction: Replace "THELEVEL" with 150 (or whatever) you want and you will get the HP amount naked at a specified level:

Paste this in google to calculate pure STR HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*4+20)*10)

Paste this in google to calculate pure INT HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*1+20)*10)

Test it out by plugging in test values and it's always right :wink:


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ThiefzV2 wrote:
pinoyplaya wrote:
Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.



And how exactly did you get those numbers? Did you pull them outta your ass? LOL

Here's the correct amount:
A pure STR will have 117,762 HP naked at lvl 150
A pure INT will have 32,308 HP naked at lvl 150

How do I know? I reversed engineer the game and here is the computer source code algorithms that calculate the HP you have if you are a Pure build:

sHP = int(pow(1.02,(pbv-1))*((pbv-1)*4+20)*10);


I'll translate the code to human math so you can paste the formula in google.com and it will calculate the HP for you.

Instruction: Replace "THELEVEL" with 150 (or whatever) you want and you will get the HP amount naked at a specified level:

Paste this in google to calculate pure STR HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*4+20)*10)

Paste this in google to calculate pure INT HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*1+20)*10)

Test it out by plugging in test values and it's always right :wink:


Let's see how effective your equation is......

Now, Give me the HP for Pure Str and Pure Int from lvl 10 at 10 lvl intervals. Let me see how correct you are.

But at lvl 150 Im pretty sure that this is the exact hp for pures without any bonuses whatsoever.

Pure Str HP - 96606
Pure Int HP - 26503

How do I know, go figure.


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 Post subject: Re: Over 90k HP without Bonus?
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pinoyplaya wrote:
Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.



And how exactly did you get those numbers? Did you pull them outta your ass? LOL

Here's the correct amount:
A pure STR will have 117,762 HP naked at lvl 150
A pure INT will have 32,308 HP naked at lvl 150

How do I know? I reversed engineer the game and here is the computer source code algorithms that calculate the HP you have if you are a Pure build:

sHP = int(pow(1.02,(pbv-1))*((pbv-1)*4+20)*10);


I'll translate the code to human math so you can paste the formula in google.com and it will calculate the HP for you.

Instruction: Replace "THELEVEL" with 150 (or whatever) you want and you will get the HP amount naked at a specified level:

Paste this in google to calculate pure STR HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*4+20)*10)

Paste this in google to calculate pure INT HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*1+20)*10)

Test it out by plugging in test values and it's always right :wink:


What the heck...... O.O

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Oh hey btw, your equation is way off. LOL, last I remember, when I was lvl 2, I had 210 hp not 204.08. Just plug in 2 to your equation and guess what you get? 204.08 HP

Want to see how that works? Heres your equation...

((1.02^(X - 1))*(X - 1)*4+20)*10)

Let X be the variable representing your level.

So lets break this down.....

((1.02^(X - 1))*(X - 1)*4+20)*10)

Now plug in 2 to X and see......

((1.02^(2- 1))*(2 - 1)*4+20)*10)

Lets solve....

((1.02^(1))*(1)*4+20)*10)

As you can see above ^^^, 2-1 equals one. Please double check my work, I dont quite remember what I have learned in Calculus so far.

((1.02))*(1)*4+20)*10)

1.02 to the first power gives you the number itself which is still 1.02.

(1.02)*4+(20*10)

I broke the equation to look like what it does above....

Now 1.02 * 4 = 4.08

So 4.08 + (200) = 204.08

I dont know, but I dont think I learned this in Calculus. I never knew that 204.08 is equal to 210. Maybe I missed that lesson when I was sick or something and had to stay home.

So tell me why your equation works again?


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LOL it's not my equation. It's Silkroad's source code which is 100% correct.

I'm not going to teach basic fundamental math in this forum. Just FYI, parenthesis and order of operations are very important to correctly solve a problem.

Here's how you do the math:

(1.02^(X - 1))*((X - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(1))*((1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((1*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((24)*10)

(1.02)*(240)

= 244.8

Let me know which step above confuses you.

Don't take my word for it, pasted the equation
(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)
into google and google will say you are wrong too :)

Also, your memory is wrong... go create a character, kill 3 mangyangs and level up and I guarantee you your HP will not be "210" nor "204".





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its sunday and you people are talking about math???? whats wrong with you :!:

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if someone ever get to the lvl 150 it will be the same year that the bots will be unbaned
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This whole thread is pointless. As HP goes up, damage goes up. You didn't see any pure nukers hitting 10k in PvP when they were level 50 and you won't see them hitting 10k in PvP when they're level 150, either. That only applies to certain equipment configurations between 6x and 8x (ish? who knows until cap raise?).

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here is how it goes down
.1111(repeating)= X
X * 10 = 9.99(repeating)
10X - 1X= 9
9 / 9 = 1
So .99(repeating) = 1.

Just basic fundamental math.

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That's completely wrong. If X is point-one-bar, 10X is not nine-point-nine-bar or even point-nine-bar. It's one-point-one-bar. 10X - X is not 9, it's 9X, which is point-nine-bar. Then when you divide both sides by nine you get X equal to one ninth, which is correct. Nowhere do you get 0.99 = 1.

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ok
here is how it goes down
.1111(repeating)= X
X * 10 = 9.99(repeating)
10X - 1X= 9
9 / 9 = 1
So .99(repeating) = 1.

Just basic fundamental math.


Um isn't 0.1111x10 = 1.1111

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lame thread.. isro will never have a 150 cap, lol.. the top cap we could ever expect would be like 100 maybe..

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lame thread.. isro will never have a 150 cap, lol.. the top cap we could ever expect would be like 100 maybe..

That could be true if Rock mountain was the last map we can expect.... but if you look at the main site's map of SRO, you will see a heaven area. I doubt that is just a new map with mobs the same level as some other place. Also, someone once posted the item list that the bot had and it had names and gears for weapons up to level 150, information that was pulled from the client.

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+1. my build gets stronger every lvl.

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ThiefzV2 wrote:
pinoyplaya wrote:
Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.



And how exactly did you get those numbers? Did you pull them outta your ass? LOL

Here's the correct amount:
A pure STR will have 117,762 HP naked at lvl 150
A pure INT will have 32,308 HP naked at lvl 150

How do I know? I reversed engineer the game and here is the computer source code algorithms that calculate the HP you have if you are a Pure build:

sHP = int(pow(1.02,(pbv-1))*((pbv-1)*4+20)*10);


I'll translate the code to human math so you can paste the formula in google.com and it will calculate the HP for you.

Instruction: Replace "THELEVEL" with 150 (or whatever) you want and you will get the HP amount naked at a specified level:

Paste this in google to calculate pure STR HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*4+20)*10)

Paste this in google to calculate pure INT HP:
(1.02^(THELEVEL - 1))*((THELEVEL - 1)*1+20)*10)

Test it out by plugging in test values and it's always right :wink:


WTS IS THIS???? :banghead:

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LOL it's not my equation. It's Silkroad's source code which is 100% correct.

I'm not going to teach basic fundamental math in this forum. Just FYI, parenthesis and order of operations are very important to correctly solve a problem.

Here's how you do the math:

(1.02^(X - 1))*((X - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(1))*((1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((1*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((24)*10)

(1.02)*(240)

= 244.8

Let me know which step above confuses you.

Don't take my word for it, pasted the equation
(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)
into google and google will say you are wrong too :)

Also, your memory is wrong... go create a character, kill 3 mangyangs and level up and I guarantee you your HP will not be "210" nor "204".





I hope you are doing well in your "Calculus" class lol.


sounds like what hydralisk and hyori was calculating for like 7-8 month ago :P but dont know if they got that far :)

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pinoyplaya wrote:
Wahhh? At lvl 150, a pure str wil have roughly 91,901 HP without any bonus str or hp bonus. A pure int will have about 25,935 HP without any bonus.

How do you guys think this will go? I wonder if pure ints will finally take a fall at higher lvl when they can only hit around 10k max against pure str who will have over 100k hp after bonuses.


Then a pure INT would be doing roughly 45k - 55k nukes. :)

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ThiefzV2 wrote:
LOL it's not my equation. It's Silkroad's source code which is 100% correct.

I'm not going to teach basic fundamental math in this forum. Just FYI, parenthesis and order of operations are very important to correctly solve a problem.

Here's how you do the math:

(1.02^(X - 1))*((X - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(1))*((1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((1*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((24)*10)

(1.02)*(240)

= 244.8

Let me know which step above confuses you.

Don't take my word for it, pasted the equation
(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)
into google and google will say you are wrong too :)

Also, your memory is wrong... go create a character, kill 3 mangyangs and level up and I guarantee you your HP will not be "210" nor "204".





I hope you are doing well in your "Calculus" class lol.



FYI, Im doing very well in Calculus. In fact, I can take a picture of my grades and you'll see what it looks like. (That is if you really want me to take a picture of it which will kill my time).

As for the equation I replied to test the equation you provided, I missed a parenthesis which completely messed it up, so that was my fault.

But yet, I do, however, recall you saying that you "reversed engineer" the game thus from what I understood, you came up with the equation on your own. And yet, on your latest post, you claim that you didnt make these equations but rather googled it.


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