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roflcopter
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Post subject: What has pwr lvl'ing got to do with not being 'legit' Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:21 am |
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I dont understand what being pwr lvl'd has got to do with not being legit. Ive seen this mentioned various times over the past few weeks. Yes perhaps if said person got pwr lvl'd by someone who was 'afk' then i can see where the problem arises, but still, the person not using the 3rd party programme is not actually breaking the rules.
The way the exp share system works and the exp penalty for the lvl gaps shows that its perfectly acceptable for someone to be pwr lvl'd. I honestly dont understand what its got to do with not being legit, maybe im wrong and id like people to make their point without de-railing the entire thread and rinsing out the same old discussion.
I just want to discuss the issue of being pwr lvl'd. The game mechanism allows it, so whats the big deal?
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aerial51
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:26 am |
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Nothing, it's perfectly normal and every mmoprg has some kind of powerleveling.
Stronger players helping weaker ones to level faster.... no cheats or bots or whatever. 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:31 am |
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every1 has a different meaning for legit.
some people get pissed and maybe a li'l jealous when they know someone who was plvled from 1-70 w/o spending as much time as a normal person who grinded himself would spend.
it's all about personal preference
i myself dun really care, so for me, plvl = perfectly legit.
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Crumpets
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:32 am |
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Jealous people who either can't afford / or can't be bothered to be powerleveld think it's unlegit.
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Snudge
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:37 am |
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Crumpets wrote: Jealous people who either can't afford / or can't be bothered to be powerleveld think it's unlegit.
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Logik
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:38 am |
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nvm..
dont really care about it anymore
but i think its kinda between legit and nonlegit 
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aerial51
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:50 am |
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Snudge wrote: Crumpets wrote: Jealous people who either can't afford / or can't be bothered to be powerleveld think it's unlegit. +1
and they never played any other mmo so they think mmorpgs are always about the highest level
@Logik: lol what happened to 90% of your post? 
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Logik
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:53 am |
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lol decided to deleted didnt want to get in *trouble* with some people
so getting Powerlevel is good for you!! go go go go get powerlvl lazy people!

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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:58 am |
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Powerlvl'ing is using the game 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:00 am |
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Hmm i dont see how its unlegit  Jm added academy for a reason so you could power level lower level people in your academy to get honor points to buy honor items its down to main player if they want to spend there time power leveling people.
People who think its not legit is because they dont have any high level buddys who can power level them so they are just jelous.
Not everyone has anything they want.
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Logik
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:04 am |
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yeah^^ same as using bot.
thats like saying
people that complain are the ones that cant afford it...
the game allows it in some way so why complain about bots too?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:08 am |
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True, they don't use any 3rd party junk or anything related to that. That's definitely a good thing, seeing as how much people are botting nowadays.
Though, IMO, it's a rather easy and lazy way to lvl up without spending too much effort.
I see an Academy with the purpose of helping newbies with questions or giving them tips rather than let them waddle after me on a pony.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:12 am |
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this may answer your question... a thread i made when i was new here
LINK: http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... ight=legit
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knubbka
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:49 am |
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Crumpets wrote: Jealous people who either can't afford / or can't be bothered to be powerleveld think it's unlegit.
yea thats right, what the hell is unlegit when I'm powerleveling myself?!
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:07 pm |
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in Rome the top 5 elite guardian bot PL -_-
they have 2+ computer and PL themselves
here's a party about to go on a overnight journey
notice how they are all facing one direction...the guardian got d/c lol...too much lag for him to hand
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Crumpets
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:07 pm |
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knubbka wrote: Crumpets wrote: Jealous people who either can't afford / or can't be bothered to be powerleveld think it's unlegit. yea thats right, what the hell is unlegit when I'm powerleveling myself?!
Lost your common sense for today did you ?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:08 pm |
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Everyone who always see screw Silkroad, WoW is the best, etc.
Guess what guys? When I made a WoW account the first thing that happened was some high level players started to power level me........
And in WoW in towns you hear them saying stuff like:
Taking level xx through instance ______ for 1 gold (thats a hell of a lot in WoW especially at low level)
So most good MMORPGs you can be powerleveled in if you have good high level friends willing to take their time to do it.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:12 pm |
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Crumpets wrote: knubbka wrote: Crumpets wrote: Jealous people who either can't afford / or can't be bothered to be powerleveld think it's unlegit. yea thats right, what the hell is unlegit when I'm powerleveling myself?! Lost your common sense for today did you ?
needs to buy a clock of reincarnation for it i think....
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PR0METHEUS
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:27 pm |
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ThugLife[KoS] wrote: Hmm i dont see how its unlegit  Jm added academy for a reason so you could power level lower level people in your academy to get honor points to buy honor items its down to main player if they want to spend there time power leveling people. People who think its not legit is because they dont have any high level buddys who can power level them so they are just jelous. Not everyone has anything they want.
I have plenty of high level friends that could power level me, and I've received several offers. I always turn them down. The main reason I am against botting (I know this topic isn't about botting, but just making a point) is that botters gain exp and level without doing anything to actually earn it. Someone who botted to a high level, imo, doesn't deserve that level.
If you get yourself power leveled while you sit on a horse or other transport, or otherwise don't do any fighting yourself, and just soak up the exp, you don't deserve your high level. You did nothing to achieve that level.
Botting - you got high level without doing anything.
power leveling - you got high level without doing anything.
It's not just about 3rd party applications or being jealous because I don't have high level friends that can do it. I do have them...
Just my $0.02.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:44 pm |
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Afaic, legitimacy in this game is way over-emphasized. Yeah, sure it's great if you don't bot, but its nothing for every single players to go crazyemo about. Just relax and take the game in for yourself.
My definition of legit, however, is one who levels without the direct aid of 3rd party bots. Nothing wrong with plvling, it exists in every game where parties are possible.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:50 pm |
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Thread like these go nowhere and eventually turn into flame wars because people usually stand on two distant poles here.
I already gave my definition of botting and power leveling many times. The point has been made that it is cheating and there is not even a single doubt about that. But yeah, anyone who likes to cheat will say "Oh, they are jealous.. they can't get pl themselves... they don't have money to be pl... blah blah blah...". All of that is pretty shit argument considering that we can all be PL.
But yeah, no matter what I say, a cheater will always try to reassure him or herself that they are doing nothing wrong eventhough they are earning experience doing nothing.
So that this doesn't turn into flaming... I won't post again in this thread as I know it will be totally futile.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:05 pm |
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Shimère wrote: Thread like these go nowhere and eventually turn into flame wars because people usually stand on two distant poles here.
I already gave my definition of botting and power leveling many times. The point has been made that it is cheating and there is not even a single doubt about that. But yeah, anyone who likes to cheat will say "Oh, they are jealous.. they can't get pl themselves... they don't have money to be pl... blah blah blah...". All of that is pretty shit argument considering that we can all be PL.
But yeah, no matter what I say, a cheater will always try to reassure him or herself that they are doing nothing wrong eventhough they are earning experience doing nothing.
So that this doesn't turn into flaming... I won't post again in this thread as I know it will be totally futile.
threads like these become flame wars because of ignorant posts like yours
Clearly you never got plvled and despise people who do because you cant do because your too poor, or have no friends to do it. Plvling is a part of the game, thats fact. Its 100% legal, thats a fact. JM intended it to be like that, thats a fact. Its also a fact, that YOU FAIL!
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:07 pm |
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Its quite simple. People want their form of justice to be absolute. When in truth, JM defines what is legit and what is cheating. Power leveling is just an alternate way to level up. Many people do not like that change so they compare it to botting. They either have a status quo bias or are under the mere exposure effect.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:19 pm |
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I dont see it bein cheating / botting of any kind but people do take the piss with it by gettin pwlvl from 1-70 its kind like a free legal bot just haing somone else to do it for u, if you pwlvl like a few lvls i dont see why not
and paying for it wiht ig gold for other random people you dont no its becoming just like these website advertising pwlvling i dont agree with paying for it but if a friend does it for u for a lvl or 2 then no problem
to me it depends if you just take the piss with it or not 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:28 pm |
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I just don't get how these people continue to whine about this topic. heres how it should go
IF P/L'ER IS BOTTING -> The people getting p/lvled are pretty much botters themselves
IF P/L'ER IS HAND P/L'ING -> It's totally ok. JM did install this system so that people could help others, its not against the TOA
Most people complain because they DONT HAVE FRIENDS that give TWO ****'s about them, and wont take the TIME to powerlvl them.
In Short, GET SOME FRIENDS AND STOP COMPLAINING
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:33 pm |
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PLeveling is totally legit unless the PLeveler is a botter. In serveral other games you can find that PLeveling is legit, and allowed. Just look at WoW, there you "boost" players wich means that you both give the most of the exp to the player you are "boosting" AND helping the player with his/hers quest. But of course, many are greedy in WoW and unless they are IRL pals they seldom "boost" eachother, unless they pay  .
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:35 pm |
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aerial51 wrote: Nothing, it's perfectly normal and every mmoprg has some kind of powerleveling. Stronger players helping weaker ones to level faster.... no cheats or bots or whatever. 
I belive so to , And i dont care if they do or not.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:37 pm |
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No rules have been broken for the one being powerleveled. Caution when the facilitator is one playing without presence. Ignoring this fact is akin to supporting its actions.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:39 pm |
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Interpol wrote: No rules have been broken for the one being powerleveled. Caution when the facilitator is one playing without presence. Ignoring this fact is akin to supporting its actions.
Wow, articulate much?Well said
+1 XD
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:41 pm |
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It's only legit if BlackFox plvls you
It's part of the game and available for everyone. Nothing wrong with it.
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