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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:30 pm 
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Rogue with daggers + critical buff + SoSun <plus 7> daggers deg 6 + 20% damage increase scroll + Ignore Monster Defense (wings stat) + berserker mode = ???



Post the solution to that :D

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No such thing as SoX Items for Europeans past 6th degree, there is no critical buff but there is a physical damage increase buff done by bards, a mangyang doesnt have any overall defense, so that stat with the wing wont do much, maybe 1k more damage. And I would say thats a 200~300k Crit.

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I belive there are SoX european weapons of degree 6, I didn't say 7 nor 8

And don't be so objective.. it's meant to be funny

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oh, sounded serious to me lol :P

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wait, there really are no sox 7th and 8th degree for European? why not?

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Dark Shifty wrote:
wait, there really are no sox 7th and 8th degree for European? why not?


72+5 European Physical Weapon 950~1150+ so yeah, thats already a Sosun in itself, so there are no European weapons or gear because imagine a 1h Swords man in full sosun, unkillable, and very very hard quick damage, and not trying to show but IF a full sosun Warlock Warrior was around, then really no one can survive, yet he can be walking past groups of sosun glaviers and barely get scratched.

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with +7 dagger i can do normal 54.5k, crit 109k, zerk 218k, with 20% dmg increase scroll 261k, with additionally 30% bard buff 340k, theoretically.
AND with warlock debuff you would do even more, yes u can actually debuff manyang with warlock skill for more damage!

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foools, the answer is 1337!


.....but I will take the 69

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the_wicked wrote:
= 3.14


hmm, i was thinking this:

3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
7245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
3305727036575959195309218611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
9833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132
0005681271452635608277857713427577896091736371787214684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235
4201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130996051870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631859
5024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303
5982534904287554687311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989
3809525720106548586327886593615338182796823030195203530185296899577362259941389124972177528347913151
5574857242454150695950829533116861727855889075098381754637464939319255060400927701671139009848824012
8583616035637076601047101819429555961989467678374494482553797747268471040475346462080466842590694912
9331367702898915210475216205696602405803815019351125338243003558764024749647326391419927260426992279
6782354781636009341721641219924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586926995690927210797509302955
3211653449872027559602364806654991198818347977535663698074265425278625518184175746728909777727938000
8164706001614524919217321721477235014144197356854816136115735255213347574184946843852332390739414333
4547762416862518983569485562099219222184272550254256887671790494601653466804988627232791786085784383


I can give you up to the 4 millionth digit, however i might break the server :) (4,194,304th digit to be exact)

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Vindicator wrote:
the_wicked wrote:
= 3.14


hmm, i was thinking this:

3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
7245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
3305727036575959195309218611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
9833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132
0005681271452635608277857713427577896091736371787214684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235
4201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130996051870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631859
5024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303
5982534904287554687311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989
3809525720106548586327886593615338182796823030195203530185296899577362259941389124972177528347913151
5574857242454150695950829533116861727855889075098381754637464939319255060400927701671139009848824012
8583616035637076601047101819429555961989467678374494482553797747268471040475346462080466842590694912
9331367702898915210475216205696602405803815019351125338243003558764024749647326391419927260426992279
6782354781636009341721641219924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586926995690927210797509302955
3211653449872027559602364806654991198818347977535663698074265425278625518184175746728909777727938000
8164706001614524919217321721477235014144197356854816136115735255213347574184946843852332390739414333
4547762416862518983569485562099219222184272550254256887671790494601653466804988627232791786085784383


I can give you up to the 4 millionth digit, however i might break the server
:) (4,194,304th digit to be exact)


i was thinking more like....pi

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shoto wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
the_wicked wrote:
= 3.14


hmm, i was thinking this:

3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
7245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
3305727036575959195309218611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
9833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132
0005681271452635608277857713427577896091736371787214684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235
4201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130996051870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631859
5024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303
5982534904287554687311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989
3809525720106548586327886593615338182796823030195203530185296899577362259941389124972177528347913151
5574857242454150695950829533116861727855889075098381754637464939319255060400927701671139009848824012
8583616035637076601047101819429555961989467678374494482553797747268471040475346462080466842590694912
9331367702898915210475216205696602405803815019351125338243003558764024749647326391419927260426992279
6782354781636009341721641219924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586926995690927210797509302955
3211653449872027559602364806654991198818347977535663698074265425278625518184175746728909777727938000
8164706001614524919217321721477235014144197356854816136115735255213347574184946843852332390739414333
4547762416862518983569485562099219222184272550254256887671790494601653466804988627232791786085784383


I can give you up to the 4 millionth digit, however i might break the server
:) (4,194,304th digit to be exact)


i was thinking more like....pi


pi is very dull and boring though..... my number is funner

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Vindicator wrote:
shoto wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
the_wicked wrote:
= 3.14


hmm, i was thinking this:

3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
7245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
3305727036575959195309218611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
9833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132
0005681271452635608277857713427577896091736371787214684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235
4201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130996051870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631859
5024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303
5982534904287554687311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989
3809525720106548586327886593615338182796823030195203530185296899577362259941389124972177528347913151
5574857242454150695950829533116861727855889075098381754637464939319255060400927701671139009848824012
8583616035637076601047101819429555961989467678374494482553797747268471040475346462080466842590694912
9331367702898915210475216205696602405803815019351125338243003558764024749647326391419927260426992279
6782354781636009341721641219924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586926995690927210797509302955
3211653449872027559602364806654991198818347977535663698074265425278625518184175746728909777727938000
8164706001614524919217321721477235014144197356854816136115735255213347574184946843852332390739414333
4547762416862518983569485562099219222184272550254256887671790494601653466804988627232791786085784383


I can give you up to the 4 millionth digit, however i might break the server
:) (4,194,304th digit to be exact)


i was thinking more like....pi


pi is very dull and boring though..... my number is funner


PIE???? MMMMMM i love pie! Can i have some Pie?

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Vindicator wrote:
shoto wrote:
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= 3.14


hmm, i was thinking this:

3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
7245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
3305727036575959195309218611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
9833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132
0005681271452635608277857713427577896091736371787214684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235
4201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130996051870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631859
5024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303
5982534904287554687311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989
3809525720106548586327886593615338182796823030195203530185296899577362259941389124972177528347913151
5574857242454150695950829533116861727855889075098381754637464939319255060400927701671139009848824012
8583616035637076601047101819429555961989467678374494482553797747268471040475346462080466842590694912
9331367702898915210475216205696602405803815019351125338243003558764024749647326391419927260426992279
6782354781636009341721641219924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586926995690927210797509302955
3211653449872027559602364806654991198818347977535663698074265425278625518184175746728909777727938000
8164706001614524919217321721477235014144197356854816136115735255213347574184946843852332390739414333
4547762416862518983569485562099219222184272550254256887671790494601653466804988627232791786085784383


I can give you up to the 4 millionth digit, however i might break the server
:) (4,194,304th digit to be exact)


i was thinking more like....pi


pi is very dull and boring though..... my number is funner


no 69 is funner

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Well then... this thread went down the drain.

EDIT: On a serious note using a formula I figured out (not sure if others already knew it) and considering that a mangyang has close to no defense or absorbtion / parry. if a Dagger +7 has around 1000~1220 and your attack power should be around 1700~2050 = 1875 then you have to add the power of the skill + its damage % so not sure how much prick has but ill consider it in the range of 390~450% and the attack power being 702~851 then you add these 2 damage ranges together and divide by 2 giving you the average again, this will give you 776 so, 776+ 1875= 2651 Damage, then you have to add the % of the attack from your attack power so add 450% to the damage. Which should be 11925 Once you done all of this you have to add the weapons reinforcement power into the equation which ranges from 170~220% so once you get the average of this is 195%, then you add the 195% to the damage giving you a damage of 23253+ of course this can vary on peoples equipment. And all of these are average, not highest damage. :D

Sorry for the wall of text.

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Well then... this thread went down the drain.


+69 imho
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Well then... this thread went down the drain.


speaking of down the drain....brb!

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Once you reach 30 lvls greater than a mangyang, the defense effects are minimal. I mean a lvl 80 having their way on a poor mangyang, can just ignore the defense of the mangyang completely. It is so small in comparison that debuffs such as ignore monster defense isnt going to make a difference. So if you knew how to calculate damage from your items, then you could assume maximum damage dealt and then x2 for bezerk, x2 for crit (if pure str, and you are for a rogue) x1.2 for damage increase scroll (oh and you forgot premium and guardian buffs <.<)

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You're wrong. Even though the debuff description says it lowers the defence of a person it actually amplifies the damage the person recieves...


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bastard! @_@ as I was reading the whole topic I thought of posting that but you beat me to it ;_;

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You're wrong. Even though the debuff description says it lowers the defence of a person it actually amplifies the damage the person recieves...


The damage is amplified by lowering the target's defense.

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Sylhana wrote:
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You're wrong. Even though the debuff description says it lowers the defence of a person it actually amplifies the damage the person recieves...


The damage is amplified by lowering the target's defense.

I don't know exactly how it works all I know is that, a warlock in our guild went out there to test dmg with some of our wizards and clerics, all of the wizards nuke and clerics offering did way more dmg after the warlock had debuffed the mangyang.

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kSRO 10th degree has euro SoX. Don't know if they have done something to the stats to balance it better but start imagining what that could do :D

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I think the debuff that would make the most difference is Courage Raze, since its not lowering target defense, its making attacks more effective against it by raising attack damage.

The effect is Division.

As for other debuff/effect, no difference probably, just see the difference between a Weasel and a Manyang def, its pretty much the same between a Manyang and def 0 most likely.


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