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 Post subject: The Conspiracy Behind Joymax, Gold Sellers and Bot Companys
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:11 am 
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For many years now the question has been asked, is Joymax related to Bot Companys and Gold Sellers? The answer, YES.


To understand first you must watch this video about China and the Petro Dollar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWVlM4wFy58

Knowing now what you know about the Petro Dollar and why nations want it. Let me direct you to the company that really owns Joymax.

http://www.theific.com/en/transactions/ ... asp?id=100

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"SHENZHEN, China, January 16, 2006 -- Tencent Holdings Limited (SEHK 700), a leading provider of Internet and mobile value-added services in China, today announces it will acquire 100% of Joymax Development Ltd (Joymax, a provider of wireless value-added services based in China."


Now that you know who actually owns Joymax, a Chinese Multimedia/Communications Company, TenCent, lets learn a little about who controlls Tencent and Chinese Companys like them in general.

http://www.people.hbs.edu/qtong/thesis1_1.htm

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The Chinese Constitution (2004 Amendment, Article 6, 11 & 12) still proclaims that socialist public (state) ownership is the foundation of the nation's economy, only supplemented by other forms of private or non-state ownerships when the circumstances demand. Consequentially, Chinese stock markets are uniquely dominated by former SOEs, in which the state, after restructuring, continues to hold two third of the shares of most listed companies.


Adding to that, if you look at the contacts of the major gold selling and bot companys with the exception of 0x33 they are all located in China.

Finally, putting the video, and these links together, I have come to the logical conclusion that almost every dollar spent by those that buy silk, bots and gold goes to the Chinese government (Which Controls and profits from the Bot Companys, Joymax itself and Gold Selleers) to help fund their growing economic need for more oil, which is purchased mainly through the use of the USD. Now of course that isnt that much money compared to what they get, but every cent helps when you are competing with nations such as the USA for oil.

Feel Free to Attempt to Debunk my theory, but dont call me a maniac without proof to back it up.

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Joymax isn't behind gold bots, why would a company try to destroy itself becuase thats what gold bots are doing to this game.


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 Post subject: Re: The Conspiracy Behind Joymax, Gold Sellers and Bot Companys
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:17 am 
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uh huh! yeah!!!!!

but one small road block... Chinese IP's are all banned from SRO.

but i guess thats all part of the "cover up" :D

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Tnx for opening some eyes.......I hope there are people that will understand.
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 Post subject: Re: The Conspiracy Behind Joymax, Gold Sellers and Bot Companys
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Fly wrote:
uh huh! yeah!!!!!

but one small road block... Chinese IP's are all banned from SRO.

but i guess thats all part of the "cover up" :D


But how does that explain the Chinese companys that sell gold. Where do they get it from. They sure dont pull it out of their rear end.

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Quintus wrote:
Fly wrote:
uh huh! yeah!!!!!

but one small road block... Chinese IP's are all banned from SRO.

but i guess thats all part of the "cover up" :D


But how does that explain the Chinese companys that sell gold. Where do they get it from. They sure dont pull it out of their rear end.


they dont. most of those companies are in the middle east. Kewait is where the majority are from. Egypt / Turkey being lesser ones. U.A.E has a few also.

Xian's biggest gold company in the 70 cap, was run by BurningFlame, who if I remember correctly lives in Kewait.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:26 am 
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Like I said, Most. There are always some exceptions and the player that runs 4 clients at once, but generally if you go on websites and look they are Chinese Based.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:30 am 
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I was wondering when you would post your findings... I just expected something with a little more depth.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:38 am 
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ummm... no.

p**erle**l.com - most popular gold seller atm. based in canada
Registrant:
Personal information removed by request. -Ryoko


s**gold.com - run by a chinese company out of capitalist Hong Kong, office in the US.
Current Registrar: HICHINA WEB SOLUTIONS (HONG KONG) LIMITED
IP Address: 209.51.133.10 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-GEORGIA-NEWNAN

**ovp.com - spammed all day in venus.
IP Address: 74.52.137.82 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-TEXAS-DALLAS

**SALE.COM
Registrant Contact:
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Xiaoliang Hou (sage1982488@hotmail.com)
+1.4158286181
Fax: +1.5555555555
1559B Sloat Blvd. #195
San Francisco, CA 94132
US

thats just 4 that are on my block list on venus. mostly run from north america, 2 owned by a chinese company but office is in the US.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:45 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The Conspiracy Behind Joymax, Gold Sellers and Bot Companys
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:58 am 
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Barotix wrote:
I was wondering when you would post your findings... I just expected something with a little more depth.



This was the first draft, there are some more links and stuff I wanted to post, but I wasnt sure what I was allowed to and not allowed to. Let me give you guys a chinese gold comapny

From http://www.geo-ip.info

You Submitted: http://www.silkroad-****.com
IP Address: 218.85.133.142
Location: Shanghai, China
Host Name: 218.85.133.14

Even if there are gold companys based across the world, the two main bot companys are Chinese Based

You Submitted: http://www.bot***.com
IP Address: 58.61.160.138
Location: Guangzhou, China
Host Name: 58.61.160.138

You Submitted: http://www.bot***.com
IP Address: 222.191.251.105
Location: Beijing, China
Host Name: 222.191.251.105

@Fly, thanks for pointing that out, I will reword my theory but most of the legitacimy still stands

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here is another 1 i just blocked off my google ads on SRA.

**km.com
tao, zeng
ztkmkm@hotmail.com
1425 sussex dr
plano, TX 75075
US
Phone: (972)3659539
Fax: 123 123 1234

This one offers Zerk hacks, gold dupe, damage hacks, ect. sooo funny.

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration EXPLOIT****.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

and the list goes on....

just cuz some are chinese, does not mean anything. plus, i think u got the wrong Joymax on ur 1st article. I looked it up, and found 2 other Joymax companies, selling wireless stuff, 1 in Tiewan, 1 in Germany, all owned by the same chinese company that owns the 1st 1 u posted. none are linked to our Joymax in any way. Our joymax is owned by Yahoo Korea and is 100% south korean company.

Code:
Meta Keywords: wow gold,buy cheap wow gold,cheapest wow gold,wow gold for sale,world of warcraft gold,WoW power leveling,WoW powerleveling,power leveling,Guild Wars,Hero online,dgamesky


thats from a chinese based company that sells silkroad gold. as you can see, there meta tag, the thing that brings people to there sites on search engine, advertises WoW but not a single mention of Silkroad. Why? cuz WoW makes them 100x more money then Silkroad.

Can you seriously tell me there is a Chinese - Blizzard Conspiracy also? nope. Shit happens, gold bots **** up games, companies do there best (or not) and life goes on. not everything is evil and planned. Sometimes shit just happens.

edit: instead of looking for a conspiracy, find there phone numbers, find there adress, use google maps to find a pizza shop near them, and order them tons of food every day. im sure that will piss them off more then anything else.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:28 am 
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I gotta lol @ ordering them pizza everyday! That rocks! Seeing the one on list in Scottsdale makes me sad seeing as we only live maybe 10 minutes away from them. Makes me wanna go egg and TP them. To bad more SRO players didn't live near by us, that would be a fun night! hehe

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 Post subject: Re: The Conspiracy Behind Joymax, Gold Sellers and Bot Companys
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that joymax isn't the joymax that made sro...
there are other joymax'es too you know..

www.theific.com wrote:
About Joymax

Founded in January 2003, Joymax is currently a privately held company. Through its subsidiary in China, the company offers SMS-based wireless value added services primarily through mass media promotion. Joymax has accumulated an active paying SMS user base, and is positioned to diversify into other wireless value added services in the near future. (...)


Now let's look at the real JM site:

http://www.joymax.co.kr/eng/company/about.asp wrote:
Since it's establishment in April 1997, Joymax has been developing quality games (...)


Also, take a look at these joymax sites.
http://www.joymax.com.tw/ (electronics)
http://www.joymax.de/ (electronics)
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10868948.html (handbags)
http://www.alibaba.com/company/0.html?m ... oymaxplaza (trading)
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10932559.html (bags and raincoats)

Please, next time do some research, and that video of the petrodollar is simple economics. I had to learn that few weeks ago, but it is simple, just supply and demand.

Also, almost all goldcompanies are located in China

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Pretty good at putting the pieces together... Too bad you posted on a forum where most ppl don't know jack outside of Silkroad. So this will just go right over the top of most of these pplz heads.

Just something to think about next time you are buying that over priced item mall item, or maybe gold, etc.

LMAO@ Fly... Kuwait

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:25 am 
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a lot of gold bots are owned by actual players


and chinese people farm gold for a lot of games, and sro is no exception,
watch:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ho5Yxe6UVv4&feature=related

and you are telling me these people give their money to the government?

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ohh emm gee. I think I've read the exact thread that said all this stuff before.

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 Post subject: Re: The Conspiracy Behind Joymax, Gold Sellers and Bot Companys
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You think Joymax would really bother?
I highly doubt they're sitting in some dingy room conspirng on how to make your gaming experience shit...
There isnt any conspiricies or what ever.
Get over it

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Rush4Life wrote:
that joymax isn't the joymax that made sro...
there are other joymax'es too you know..

www.theific.com wrote:
About Joymax

Founded in January 2003, Joymax is currently a privately held company. Through its subsidiary in China, the company offers SMS-based wireless value added services primarily through mass media promotion. Joymax has accumulated an active paying SMS user base, and is positioned to diversify into other wireless value added services in the near future. (...)


Now let's look at the real JM site:

http://www.joymax.co.kr/eng/company/about.asp wrote:
Since it's establishment in April 1997, Joymax has been developing quality games (...)


Also, take a look at these joymax sites.
http://www.joymax.com.tw/ (electronics)
http://www.joymax.de/ (electronics)
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10868948.html (handbags)
http://www.alibaba.com/company/0.html?m ... oymaxplaza (trading)
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10932559.html (bags and raincoats)

Please, next time do some research, and that video of the petrodollar is simple economics. I had to learn that few weeks ago, but it is simple, just supply and demand.

Also, almost all goldcompanies are located in China

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i had no idead :roll:

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