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 Post subject: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:20 am 
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ok myself and my guild buddies have been talking about the premiun as of late and after discussions we all have premiuns. now due to this we have noticed something which im pretty sure may of been talked about before. This is the Disconnected from the server issue. a few of my friends who hadn't breought premiuns untill now was ALWAYS getting DCed two or three times a day. They now have premiun and guess what. No DC. so my question is this. when the servers are full does joymax kick people without premiun off the server with the DC message to make way for the premiun players? im asking this after we have discoverd you dont get DCed when you have premiun. the only time i have got DCed is when my pc has crashed and when my premiun has run out.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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Your lying
Stop lying

I know plenty of people who dc with and without a prem. After reading my guide to fixing the problem, they didnt dc anymore. ( cant be found in the TH section )

It all has to do with your computers hardware and its running settings. It has nothing to do with the premium.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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I agree with the previous poster. I've always had premiums, and had regular disconnects as well. Since I set the affinity for my CPU, I've had no more DC problems. DC is caused by hardware and driver issues, not by premiums.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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Prefferd acsess means...Im paying to log in so whatch out you non paying users cause one of you is about to be DC upon my arrival.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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ok myself and my guild buddies have been talking about the premiun as of late and after discussions we all have premiuns. now due to this we have noticed something which im pretty sure may of been talked about before. This is the Disconnected from the server issue. a few of my friends who hadn't breought premiuns untill now was ALWAYS getting DCed two or three times a day. They now have premiun and guess what. No DC. so my question is this. when the servers are full does joymax kick people without premiun off the server with the DC message to make way for the premiun players? im asking this after we have discoverd you dont get DCed when you have premiun. the only time i have got DCed is when my pc has crashed and when my premiun has run out.

i agree with you. I cant afford premium each month with premium i NEVER have game issues without premium my game crash 2-3 time per day. maybe with premium my pc works better? i doubt that


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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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I agree with the previous poster. I've always had premiums, and had regular disconnects as well. Since I set the affinity for my CPU, I've had no more DC problems. DC is caused by hardware and driver issues, not by premiums.


u still need to set affinity now?
i thought it was fixed 1 week ago or so already

i didnt care abt the affinity thing 1 week ago and no crashes/freeze screen since

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I agree with the previous poster. I've always had premiums, and had regular disconnects as well. Since I set the affinity for my CPU, I've had no more DC problems. DC is caused by hardware and driver issues, not by premiums.


u still need to set affinity now?
i thought it was fixed 1 week ago or so already

i didnt care abt the affinity thing 1 week ago and no crashes/freeze screen since


Just as a note: People with low end pc's should set both the priority and the affinity, every little bit helps.


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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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MrTwilliger wrote:
Your lying
Stop lying

I know plenty of people who dc with and without a prem. After reading my guide to fixing the problem, they didnt dc anymore. ( cant be found in the TH section )

It all has to do with your computers hardware and its running settings. It has nothing to do with the premium.

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firstly stfu. this is 100% truthfull post based on what me and my buddies have done so shut the hell up. you dont watch are computers and you dont know my guild buddies and there dc problems. im stating real facts we have seen and i asked a question i didnt state that sro kicks people off. me and my guild buddies DONT get DCed since we have premiun and that is a fact and we have based it over a few months now! i dont usualy post in this kind of way but im posting with a question. not for you to go your lieing. seriously we are basing this on what we have seen. we get DCed without premiun even myself. we dont with the premiun end of. and just for clarifacation i have never moded my sro or my internet connections towards the sro or never followed your guide. i got DCed on the day of legends 3 coming up and guess what that was the one day i didnt have premiun and also before that i didnt get DCed, now i have premiun and guess what no DC as of yet.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:11 am 
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Now tell me, when the problem is caused by a lack of the computer ability to process the game.. how can a virtual item cause the cpu to have the ability to handle it?

Until you provide me with proof that its the premium and not an outside factor which caused it, i will stick behind my proven logic.


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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:13 am 
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how do you explain the no dc with premiun and without dc? coincerdence? with 2 or 3 different people? also lack of computer? heres my specs...

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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Maybe you made some alteration to your computer settings which caused it to work? By removing or adding certain programs or even new hardware it has changed the settings in which sro run and has caused it to work at a better setting.

Or frankly, your lying. As i said in my original post.


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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:19 am 
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IC3M4N wrote:
firstly stfu.


That's a great way to start a discussion. :) Looks like you were just making a statement rather than asking a question (as your post title suggests). Fine, you believe you're DCed due to premium, we believe you don't, and we all go our happy way.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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lol why the hell would i want to lye about something like this i didnt start a post too look cool and promote the premiun. im stating something we have seen over the months. and nope no change to my pc i havent installed anything for a while now and i havent changed any settings to my pc. calling me a liar is something that just boils me. i dont lye im stating something we have seen. what do i gain if i was to lye about this? hmmmm? nothing... stop being a moron and respect i have made this on the bases of what me and my guild buddies have seen. i am mearly stating real truful facts that we have seen. yet i have not stated that everyone must buy premiuns to fix there no DC problems.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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phulshof wrote:
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firstly stfu.


That's a great way to start a discussion. :) Looks like you were just making a statement rather than asking a question (as your post title suggests). Fine, you believe you're DCed due to premium, we believe you don't, and we all go our happy way.


i dont take being called a liar very well as im a very honest person. would you liek to be called a liar when your posting something you know is truthfull to the word but some moron comes and calls you a liar?

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:28 am 
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I have a Premium, but still get DCed about every 2hours. I dont think the Premium effects whether you get DCed from the server for a Premium user to take your place.

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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thankyou puma your the first person to actually reply to my post as intended. your not someone who just states your lying so kudos to you for being the first :)

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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I can say i have noticed the same thing. Yes, i get DC from time to time with a PREM too, but it's when my net stops or when my PC crushes. I have gotten maybe 1 or 2 dc from the server when i had premium, and i have them every few hours when i don't. I haven's changed anything on my PC so i don't think it's just a coincidence....also my frineds have noticed the same thing. We all se that coincidence? I don't think so....

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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IC3M4N wrote:
phulshof wrote:
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firstly stfu.


That's a great way to start a discussion. :) Looks like you were just making a statement rather than asking a question (as your post title suggests). Fine, you believe you're DCed due to premium, we believe you don't, and we all go our happy way.


i dont take being called a liar very well as im a very honest person. would you liek to be called a liar when your posting something you know is truthfull to the word but some moron comes and calls you a liar?


I think his strong reaction came from this topic being resurrected every few months. Every now and then a new person comes along claiming premium and DC are related, and how it's been true for him and his buddies, and every time it's being disproven by people with premiums getting DCed and people without premiums having no DC whatsoever. After a while one wishes someone'd press search before starting a new topic (there used to be a great picture on that, but I can't find it anymore).

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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I can say i have noticed the same thing. Yes, i get DC from time to time with a PREM too, but it's when my net stops or when my PC crushes. I have gotten maybe 1 or 2 dc from the server when i had premium, and i have them every few hours when i don't. I haven's changed anything on my PC so i don't think it's just a coincidence....also my frineds have noticed the same thing. We all se that coincidence? I don't think so....


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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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ok than is everyone who is making this topic having a coincedence than? im not angry no more im mearly curious now. one thing i want to ask people and i will say now i am NOT saying or stating non premiun get booted but this is what i ask. Why do premiun people get in first time? the servers are maxed to the full and everyone else is trying to get in and im pretty sure the numbers are in the hundreds.. yet you get in before them? i know there is no que system in place for people with no premiun so the theory of jumping the Q is dismissed. than how does premiun work? surely if people was not kicked than the server wouldnt say 3002/3000 it would peak into the hundreds? i am mearly asking not stating anything :)

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 Post subject: Re: premiun or not to premiun, that is the question.
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Coincidence? If it was systematic, then there should be no exceptions, and I'm one of the many exceptions. I've had premium accounts DC constantly, and non-premium accounts (I have multiple accounts) not DC on me for almost a week (server inspections ruin my uptime). Just because several things happen at the same time does not mean that they are related.

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To the original post, since I've had my premium; I have not been kicked off the server to make a slot for another premium user, although it has happened in multiple instances back when I didn't have it before. The only times I've disconnected with Premium on is when my own home internet (wireless) decides to crap out on itself, or the game crashes (which doesn't for me anymore since I set the affinity). My non premium times a month ago in college were a different story where my internet connection was great, but when stalling overnight or something, I would get booted off the server to make way for premium users, or when server capacity spikes to say 3520/3500 for a few seconds. Although, that again may be due to the internet -- can't say for sure, but I doubt it since again it was wired with a 50 foot ethernet cable at the time.

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Infact, i've heard a lot of people saying that without premium they seems to disconnect more. o.0 Strange......


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The server does not kick people to let premium users log in. Why must you people think it does? It never has and it never will. All it simply does is increase the server limit by 1 person temporally. If it did kick people out, why would we see 3501 / 3500 on rev6? Would we not see a constant 3500 in that case? Come on people.

At the person above, those original dc's could be due to your internet at collage cutting out ( school networks have a tendency to do so, or my old one at least ), the fact that you may not have set the cpu priorities and thus caused the problem or many other factors. Just because you didnt have a premium then it doesn't mean that it has caused it.

"hey guys, when i put this hat on i didnt dc for like 2 minutes. i think i have a magic hat!"

To settle the argument, i dont have a premium, even after playing on greece for 8 months, simply by setting the compatibility mode, the priority and the affinity i never dc'd in hotan on a busy greece night. But it must be by magic hat, right? :roll:

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Infact, i've heard a lot of people saying that without premium they seems to disconnect more. o.0 Strange......


And i heard a lot of people say 9/11 was caused by the american government, but it doesn't means thats true either right?


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MrTwig your comments our now invalid as you seem to enjoy calling people liars and also making fun of peoples post. kudos to you mr twig but other people manage to respond to this post in a mature matter without the awesome sarcasm you enjoy bringing to your posts. perhaps in future you will look upon this and think.. hmmm maybe i wont call the poster a liar as i like doing so much :)

Too all others thankyou for your replys to the post :)

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And i heard a lot of people say 9/11 was caused by the american government, but it doesn't means thats true either right?


It doesn't meant that it's not true either :) If you get my point, you can't say FOR SURE that there's no connection between the DC and the premium. Ofcoure, we can't prove it either, we are just discussing.
The truth is somewhere out there...

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agreed my post was too see what other peoples findings was perhaps if you had mearly stated a few facts you know of without the sarcasm i wouldnt see you as the moron i do now :D

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Bg_DrEaM wrote:
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And i heard a lot of people say 9/11 was caused by the american government, but it doesn't means thats true either right?


It doesn't meant that it's not true either :) If you get my point, you can't say FOR SURE that there's no connection between the DC and the premium. Ofcoure, we can't prove it either, we are just discussing.
The truth is somewhere out there...


A connection between DC and premium would imply that Joymax is behind it, which would mean that counter examples of premium users DCing and non-premium users not DCing for weeks should not occur. Since they do en masse, it is likely that there is no direct relation between premium and DCing, and that these examples here are just coincidence.

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there is no relation between premiums and dc'ing...
dc'ing twice a day is really not that bad considering you log in first try

i dc sometimes, lack of internet stability? ADSL or DSL connections sometimes run low in peak call times and internet times as it is running through the phone line.

my friend brought a premium and it takes him 3 or 4 trys to get on

i however dont and i can get in faster sometimes then he can

prem users also DO NOT kick people from the server

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Server do kick users out to maintain 3500 users. Consider this:-

At 12pm SRO time, that is where most Euro players are still sleeping and not login, some or all servers are full. Who are playing in the servers? Some legit players and botter/gold bot!! So when all Euro wake up and start to login at around 4 - 6 pm SRO time, some will have premium, let say only 300 of them have, they will have no problem loging in. By 6 pm, all 300 premium users login, if server don't kick out some players, how to maintain 3500 cap? Are you telling me during this time there are other 300 users having problem with internet connection, SRO client crash so they are being logout of the game? Also not only preumium users login, some non premuim users also manage to login, it could be in the range of 100 to 200 of them, so there could be 500 users manage to login during this time, so if server don't kick users out, how to maintain 3500?


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