Nivlam.com and Formulas

knucklehead · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 62 **Location:**

Nivlam.com say you will get 252,995 SP if you 0 gap from level 139 to 140. is this a joke? :shock:

if not, how long u think it will take for a legit to level from 139 to 140? how about a botter?

also has anyone verify the SP chart is correct? how did the site owner get those values?

XesoS · **Posted:** Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:45 pm

wth ur talking about ? lol we are at 90CAP .

knucklehead · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 62 **Location:**

XesoS wrote:

wth ur talking about ? lol we are at 90CAP .

i know im talkign about the future

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

Chances are, there is a mathematical formula that has been accurately tested for this.

Who cares how fast a bot would get there though... it doesn't matter.

Plutonium · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 311 **Location:**

knucklehead wrote:

how did the site owner get those values?

use the search button before you ask. its on the 1st page of the search result:

Quote:

ImmortalKiller wrote:

Chances are, there is a mathematical formula that has been accurately tested for this.

indeed, qoting from the same topic-

Death2U's formula:

Death2U wrote:

Here's the formula that I made using multivariable Calculus & computational mathematics when I made the SP chart ages ago.

X=GAP
Y=EXP
Z=VARIABLE CONSTANT

knucklehead wrote:

how long u think it will take for a legit to level from 139 to 140?

a very long time

VanTokkern · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 112 **Location:**

While we're on the Nivlam subject, does anyone happen to know the formula that determines the item stats for weapons, protector and jewelry? For in level, percentage and enhancement.

Help would be much appreciated, thanks

knucklehead · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 62 **Location:**

VanTokkern wrote:

While we're on the Nivlam subject, does anyone happen to know the formula that determines the item stats for weapons, protector and jewelry? For in level, percentage and enhancement.

Help would be much appreciated, thanks

yeah i want to know that formula too

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

knucklehead wrote:

VanTokkern wrote:

While we're on the Nivlam subject, does anyone happen to know the formula that determines the item stats for weapons, protector and jewelry? For in level, percentage and enhancement.

Help would be much appreciated, thanks

yeah i want to know that formula too

already posted >_>

knucklehead · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 62 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

knucklehead wrote:

VanTokkern wrote:

While we're on the Nivlam subject, does anyone happen to know the formula that determines the item stats for weapons, protector and jewelry? For in level, percentage and enhancement.

Help would be much appreciated, thanks

yeah i want to know that formula too

already posted >_>

do you have a link? :cry:

4-n-zics · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 625 **Location:** Texas

Don't forget that you can't put in from 139 to 140 and get an accurate amount of SP. 139 to 140 means from 0% 139 to 99.99% 140 (basically to 141). In order to get an accurate amount you have to put it as a 0 gap from 139 to 139, which means 0% 139 to 99.99% 139.

Gul · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 385 **Location:** Where?

VanTokkern wrote:

While we're on the Nivlam subject, does anyone happen to know the formula that determines the item stats for weapons, protector and jewelry? For in level, percentage and enhancement.

Help would be much appreciated, thanks

There isn't a single formula for items. All item stats (both base and maximum) are defined in the PK2 files. All I did was dump everything into a database and used a little common sense to figure the "middle" point between base and max stats.

Edit: Shameless plug, Warhammer!

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:31 am

This is the exp stat i made long time ago (from lvl 90 to 140):

basing on the speed of killing 4000 mob a day
139->140 take 9.5 months

Gimpdog · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 174 **Location:**

Quote:

basing on the speed of killing 4000 mob a day
139->140 take 9.5 months

WHOLEY FARK
Im guessing that is without premium though

ThiefzV2 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 566 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

This is the exp stat i made long time ago (from lvl 90 to 140):

basing on the speed of killing 4000 mob a day
139->140 take 9.5 months

8.1 years to get from 1->140?
so 4,000mobs/day = how many hours day?

Rock18 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 24 **Location:**

4-n-zics wrote:

Don't forget that you can't put in from 139 to 140 and get an accurate amount of SP. 139 to 140 means from 0% 139 to 99.99% 140 (basically to 141). In order to get an accurate amount you have to put it as a 0 gap from 139 to 139, which means 0% 139 to 99.99% 139.

Why would they make the calculation for 2 levels? If what u say is right it would be every 2 levels bcuz level 140 is covered in the 139-140 calculation. 139-140 is 0% 139 - 99.99% 139.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:44 am

ThiefzV2 wrote:

8.1 years to get from 1->140?

NuclearSilo wrote:

This is the exp stat i made long time ago (from lvl 90 to 140)

ThiefzV2 wrote:

so 4,000mobs/day = how many hours day?

Depends on your killing speed.
nuker = fast
blader = slow
bot nuker = hyper fast...

4000 mob for a nuker = 5.5 hours if he kills with the speed 1mob/5s

Cerus · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 1002 **Location:**

nice, i like the idea of lvling once every 9 months w00t w00t~
That would definitely be fun YAY~!
so 5 hours a day will giv me ~ 2+% YAYAYAYAY
I CANT WAIT WOHHOOOOWHWOWHOHOHWOOWOWOOOOOOOO

KsqueaKJ · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 257 **Location:** Illinois

NuclearSilo wrote:

ThiefzV2 wrote:

8.1 years to get from 1->140?

NuclearSilo wrote:

This is the exp stat i made long time ago (from lvl 90 to 140)

ThiefzV2 wrote:

so 4,000mobs/day = how many hours day?

Depends on your killing speed.
nuker = fast
blader = slow
bot nuker = hyper fast...

4000 mob for a nuker = 5.5 hours if he kills with the speed 1mob/5s

a human can grind more efficiently which means a human would lvl faster in the same amount of hours than a bot would.

but everything else ya

thats gonna really suck if they dont change something for lvls that high cuz thats just insane

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

no way in hell would any one spend 8 years to get to 140

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:34 am

foudre wrote:

no way in hell would any one spend 8 years to get to 140

Then get hacked

If u have pet, premium plus for 5h, and is a nuker, killing at speed 1mob/5s. It only takes u 4.5 years of hardcore grinding to lvl from 90 to 140.

And if JM release each +10 lvl cap update each half year, u'll be lvl 140 in 2014.

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

foudre wrote:

no way in hell would any one spend 8 years to get to 140

Then get hacked

If u have pet, premium plus for 5h, and is a nuker, killing at speed 1mob/5s. It only takes u 4.5 years of hardcore grinding to lvl from 90 to 140.

And if JM release each +10 lvl cap update each half year, u'll be lvl 140 in 2014.

only

eestivend · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 208 **Location:** No Idea

NuclearSilo wrote:

This is the exp stat i made long time ago (from lvl 90 to 140):

basing on the speed of killing 4000 mob a day
139->140 take 9.5 months

you have so much free-time?

VanTokkern · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 112 **Location:**

Gul wrote:

VanTokkern wrote:

While we're on the Nivlam subject, does anyone happen to know the formula that determines the item stats for weapons, protector and jewelry? For in level, percentage and enhancement.

Help would be much appreciated, thanks

There isn't a single formula for items. All item stats (both base and maximum) are defined in the PK2 files. All I did was dump everything into a database and used a little common sense to figure the "middle" point between base and max stats.

Edit: Shameless plug, Warhammer!

What about Phy. and Mag. defence, Parry and Hit ratio?

thechampion80 · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 565 **Location:** on Earth

joymax will release the caps gradually so it won't be as tough as it seems
but why you worrying about something in 2013 (if they put a new cap every year) :roll:

Detective · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 219 **Location:**

Talk about planning for the future and you are thinking about 5 years ahead for SRO Rofl

Ash · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 585 **Location:** Earth

joymax must have done some planning for later levels like the auto share party system at teh end of teh 80 cap .

now with a good party or a taxi you could get from 1 to 80 in less than 3 months & with prem + you can get from 80 to 90 in 1 month (of course with a good party too)

& with pfarming it could save you a lot of time & effort . cuz we all know that farming is way harder than leveling in this game (old school players know what i'm talking about)

don't forget at 90 cape joymax introduced the prem+ who know what item they will introduce at later levels .

my point is joymax won't risk it's users with a hard & ridiculous leveling system .

4-n-zics · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 625 **Location:** Texas

Rock18 wrote:

4-n-zics wrote:

Don't forget that you can't put in from 139 to 140 and get an accurate amount of SP. 139 to 140 means from 0% 139 to 99.99% 140 (basically to 141). In order to get an accurate amount you have to put it as a 0 gap from 139 to 139, which means 0% 139 to 99.99% 139.

Why would they make the calculation for 2 levels? If what u say is right it would be every 2 levels bcuz level 140 is covered in the 139-140 calculation. 139-140 is 0% 139 - 99.99% 139.

Exactly, you are trying to calculate how much SP you will get per level. If you set the level from 139 to 139 you will see how much SP you will get for 0% 139 to 99.99% 139. If you set the levels 139 to 140 you will see how much SP you will get for all of level 139 (0%-99.99%) and level 140 (0%-99.99%), which is actually 2 levels. Give it a try at nivlam. Set the start level to 139 and the end level to 139 and see how much SP you will get.

level 139 to level 139 with a 0 gap gives you 252,995 SP
level 140 to level 140 with a 0 gap gives you 286,143 SP
setting the levels 139 to 140 with a 0 gap give you 539,418 SP (252,995 + 286,143 = 539,138; nearly the same amount ~ 300 SP difference).

kaperucito · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 308 **Location:** Spain

NuclearSilo wrote:

This is the exp stat i made long time ago (from lvl 90 to 140):

basing on the speed of killing 4000 mob a day
139->140 take 9.5 months

Nice, but I think this isn't correct. This work for an a bot 24/7 without premium, but I think... at high lv caps (120 and more) the ppl will grinding with hand in euro/chinese party (maybe is a dream? XD). In party the time needed to lv up is no the same than solo play. Too think the quest will give 20kk exp or more.
I think this... XD

PD: Srry for my english =P

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

Ash wrote:

joymax must have done some planning for later levels like the auto share party system at teh end of teh 80 cap .

now with a good party or a taxi you could get from 1 to 80 in less than 3 months & with prem + you can get from 80 to 90 in 1 month (of course with a good party too)

& with pfarming it could save you a lot of time & effort . cuz we all know that farming is way harder than leveling in this game (old school players know what i'm talking about)

don't forget at 90 cape joymax introduced the prem+ who know what item they will introduce at later levels .

my point is joymax won't risk it's users with a hard & ridiculous leveling system .

Super Special Awesome Premium Platinum plus 4, cuts the 9 year grind down to a 2 and a half year grind

4-n-zics · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 625 **Location:** Texas

kaperucito wrote:

Nice, but I think this isn't correct. This work for an a bot 24/7 without premium, but I think... at high lv caps (120 and more) the ppl will grinding with hand in euro/chinese party (maybe is a dream? XD). In party the time needed to lv up is no the same than solo play. Too think the quest will give 20kk exp or more.
I think this... XD

PD: Srry for my english =P

The chart is for EXP when grinding on mobs only, without any premium/GT/SPT and without doing any quests.

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