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[SD]Twysta
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:37 am |
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Sro is a game
This is a forum
SRO has rules
this forum has rules
sro doesnt allow pk2 editing
this forum does
if your stupid enough to think pk2 editing is a "3rd party program" then you really are dumb as ****. How does it work in your advance like a bot does?
Besides, JM clearly explained WHY it is not allowed.
You deserve nothing but a ban. right in your face.
you have no right to say the forums rules need to be more clear, you have no right to just say "if i get banned pk2 editors need to be banned too"
YOU did something against the rules, YOU need a ban..
its simple, gtfo
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Juicy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:38 am |
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TOloseGT wrote: _SomeOne_ wrote: rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program.. where in the srf rules does it say pk2 edits are illegal? Where in the SRO ToS does it say Botting isnt aloud?
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imp3r10
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:39 am |
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Juicy wrote: TOloseGT wrote: _SomeOne_ wrote: rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program.. where in the srf rules does it say pk2 edits are illegal? Where in the SRO ToS does it say Botting isnt aloud?
actually its the lack there of
they took it out of their rules so technically it is legal
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Azilius
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:40 am |
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Juicy wrote: TOloseGT wrote: _SomeOne_ wrote: rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program.. where in the srf rules does it say pk2 edits are illegal? Where in the SRO ToS does it say Botting isnt aloud?
5. Policy against System Abuse
1. If a user is found to be abusing a bug or system glitch, the user may have his account restricted or deleted. Listed below are similar instances in which similar action may be taken.
① If a user is found to be inducing or encouraging particular behavior with the intent of placing undue stress on the systems.
② If a user discovers a bug and, instead of reporting it directly to a GM or Customer Support, tells it to other users
③ If a user gets a profit directly or indirectly from exploitation of a bug.
2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.
Take it how you like..
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TOloseGT
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:41 am |
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Juicy wrote: Where in the SRO ToS does it say Botting isnt aloud? i don't give a shit what joymax ToS says. i'm talking about srf rules.
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:41 am |
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A 7 page topic about a +7 weapon?
somehow i knew bots or botting was the discussion, i was soooo right....
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[SD]Twysta
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:42 am |
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TOloseGT wrote: Juicy wrote: Where in the SRO ToS does it say Botting isnt aloud? i don't give a shit what joymax ToS says. i'm talking about srf rules.
yes,
are you people Farking retarded?
THIS FORUM HAS ITS OWN RULES
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Key-J
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:42 am |
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I'm not going to lock this topic because indeed there is more to it than just him posting a SS of himself botting.
However, we as SRF, as the fan site, do not accept botters in our community. If they admit to botting or support botting then we will remove them from our forums.
As far as PK2 editing goes, yeah JM doesnt really like it, but we don't have a problem with it. I mean, it doesnt effect other players, it only effects your client. On your screen, on your computer. Its changing the looks of things, not their actual effects or so on.
So yea, according to our rules, that SS is yourself admitting to botting, and you will be removed from SRF.
However, im only keeping it open because there is, yes i know under all these pages some small decent debate and discussion, don't make me have to lock it.
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imp3r10
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:42 am |
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Azilius wrote: Juicy wrote: TOloseGT wrote: _SomeOne_ wrote: rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program.. where in the srf rules does it say pk2 edits are illegal? Where in the SRO ToS does it say Botting isnt aloud? 5. Policy against System Abuse 1. If a user is found to be abusing a bug or system glitch, the user may have his account restricted or deleted. Listed below are similar instances in which similar action may be taken. ① If a user is found to be inducing or encouraging particular behavior with the intent of placing undue stress on the systems. ② If a user discovers a bug and, instead of reporting it directly to a GM or Customer Support, tells it to other users ③ If a user gets a profit directly or indirectly from exploitation of a bug. 2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.Take it how you like..
where on the sro website is this
cuz it isnt under user agreement
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Azilius
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:43 am |
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Uhhhhhhh
Scroll to the bottom of Silkroadonline.net and click on operation policy.
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Beanstalk
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:43 am |
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HellsAdvocate wrote: i would say about 1/3 of this community consists of botters, and most of them hypocrites.
oh and what a shames hes using tbot too, lmao shittiest bot ever You would know.
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THE_ZUL
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:45 am |
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this debate never end..cuz every1 keep giving their offensive and defensive statement at all....
so it totally pointless...so let Mr.Mod handle it as well....
btw tmrw is fotress war update..so good luck to all and HKS 
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Amelie
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:49 am |
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To me (besides srf is a fan site for sro players) i see srf (esp general discussion) like a sro server.
Say we (members) are players, mods (cin, van, keyj, soda, etc) are like the server supervisors, and SG and Ryoko are GM's, game masters.
what we try to do here, is try to play this game, trying to have fun and enjoy this community, and to share our experiences of this game to other members (players).
Now, there are rules in srf. Rules we have to follow. Srf (to me) represents what a server shud be, what the game shud be. Clean, no cheats at all, with active players, opened to have a discussion, and Gm's (admins) always providing justice to the game. You botted, broke a rule. An admin has to act, and you've to get banned, as simple as that.
sro is screwed, that we all know it, but at least i see in srf this utopia about how the game shud be. You're right, probably 1/3 of srf members bot, i can name you a lot of members in babel who bot. But till the evidence isnt posted here, they cant get banned. But whenever that happens, i'm sure SG will get his ban hammer and clean this forum, just as he's been doing it so far.
Cheers. 
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kevv
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:52 am |
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If Joymax did their job and banned bots the game would be so much more enjoyable, and very few people would bot like in WoW. However, I feel SRF is wrong by banning people due to their in-game actions, I understand for something like spamming but what you do in-game should stay in-game.
Then again I wouldn't like SRF turning into a huge bot support forum like 0x33.
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Key-J
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:02 am |
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Thnx for that Amelie.
Remember guys,
We are not the in game police. If you think that someone bots, and you say you have evidence, then send it to SRO. We cannot ban people on speculation alone, even if you have a vid and SS.
We have to have concrete and concise evidence. and a SS like that, of a user posting himself, with a Bot notice in it is 100% Evidence.
I'm not going to lie, i'm sure some of you here bot. It's a fact of life, and if you remain quite and to yourself, then we can't do anything about it. I know it might seem weird, but we try to get as far away from the game as we can, and we especially don't want to bring In Game Drama (between users) onto the forums.
Think more of SRF as an Escape from the hardships of the game. This is a privately owned forums. Meaning we have our own set of rules which we follow, thats why we don't follow what JM has put up, because they don't run these forums. Example: As mentioned before, the Pk2. They don't like it, but we don't mind it. We know there is no harm and no foul with Pk2 editing. It doesn't upset the game. By making it unfair for others.
However we do agree on the Bot problem. Take it like this, black and white. You bot, we ban.
There is no middle ground, there is no what if? You admit to botting, you support botting, you link people to bot sites and so on. We will ban you.
Why? Because we are a legit forum, this is a place where truly legit people can come and discuss and enjoy the game. We DONT want botters in our community, and that is why we ban people who we can confirm as botters by them breaking the rules and so on.
I'm trying to make myself understandable and clear, however i am a bit ill. So maybe things didn't come out as right as i wanted.
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:10 am |
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lol SRF has become so popular ppl are confusing it with the official forum..
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FliiipZ
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:12 am |
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Gratz on your first +7 without astral
*Waits for SG*
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shoto
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:17 am |
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i respect people's opinions on this topic. I can see the good and bad sides of allowing botters on the forums. I mean on the one hand, they are a large part of the community, but then again they are cheating.
Many botters that you and i know are great people in-game. But at the same time there needs to be 'some' semblance of order. On SRF, we can have that order. Where the Gm's in-game fail us, the mods here don't. I think that is important to a lot of people. At least at srf legits have some hope for a community.
What you do in-game is your business. If however you are revealed as a botter then i think it is fair for you to be banned, regardless of how great a person you are. No one should be above the rules.
(i'm trying to be nice about a delicate topic, so as to avoid flames) 
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MasterKojito
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:27 am |
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SuicideNz wrote: No offence to anyone here but you really need to stop taking botting so seriously, is botting enough to destroy a friendship? some of you have posted that if you found your best friend botting then you wouldnt be friends no more... cmon now is being legit more important than friends?? i know its wrong but its up to them to make the choices. Some of you really need to think seriously about why your hating on botters is it just to suck up to people and make yourself look better. Personally i dont bot just because i dont want to be known as a botter, but i dont mind my friends botting unless they ksing me, if so i just tell them to turn it off...simple.
Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them. only ban if they promoting and trying to get other people to bot.....
Stop defending/promoting bots. On this forum we are agianst bots, we are trying to have a bot-free enviroment. This forum will not accept botters into its commumity.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:37 am |
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imp3r10 wrote: OK let me get this clear
the topic we are debating is not whether botting is illegal or pk2 is illegal, we already know that, but we are debating that the part in the rules of 3rd party program is unclear and does not convey its true meaning. if botters r banned then pk2 editers are banned, unless they clear up the rules
For SRF, no where does it say that using a third party program will get you an instant ban, it says it prohibits it, therefore you can conclude that the consequences will be determined by the admins. However, it does say that if you show a screen shot of yourself botting, you will be banned. Period. So...bye.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:39 am |
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THE_ZUL wrote: this debate never end..cuz every1 keep giving their offensive and defensive statement at all.... so it totally pointless...so let Mr.Mod handle it as well.... btw tmrw is fotress war update..so good luck to all and HKS 
what he said
and grats on the +7  and slef pwnage 
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imp3r10
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:38 am |
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pentuim3HS wrote: THE_ZUL wrote: this debate never end..cuz every1 keep giving their offensive and defensive statement at all.... so it totally pointless...so let Mr.Mod handle it as well.... btw tmrw is fotress war update..so good luck to all and HKS  what he said and grats on the +7  and slef pwnage 
lol ty
shouldn't be a surprise to you there are lots of bot on venice
out server is full of them
and shit like this makes me learn
never realized how so many people here spend sooooooooo much time trying to implicated everything freaking screenshot
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:55 am |
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^ Why are you still here...
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destructionmama
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:30 am |
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LOL @ topic starter
LOL@ topic starter trying so hard to defend himself after self pawn
I would just be quite and delete the post if I were you LOL
instead of drawing the whole forum's attention, now everybody knows LOL
oh joy
on topic: either way grats on a nice crossbow lol
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:34 am |
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Omg, Just ban the nub -_-
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MrBow
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:48 am |
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later -=imp3r10=- we will miss you
@ SuicideNz; you should be banned too farking bot supporter
SuicideNz wrote: SuicideNz wrote: Da_Realest wrote: SuicideNz wrote: Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them. Why fight crime? Its not going to stop them. You can punish them but people will still commit crimes. Lets just accept it.
SRF accepting botters? Not going to happen. Botters and bot supporters will be banned. This is a game buddy Not real life... And plus this ISNT the game this is a forum to talk about the game... Botters should be banned from the game not the forums. Quote: 1) Be a bot supporter. Change your avatar to the pointy-finger bot symbol. Put "0x33" somewhere in your sig. Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread. Ask about how to buy, offer to sell, or post links to bot clients, etc. DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS WILL RESULT IN AN INSTANT BAN. There will be no warnings. There will be no discussion. There is ZERO tolerance.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:51 am |
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Who the **** cares if he bots or not? Half of SRF bots, but nigas are too scare d to admit, this place has become such a shitter its disgusting. Might as well get blocked again.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:56 am |
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w00t wrote: Dude do you realise you just made us all see ur a botter in this picture? http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 821cy6.jpgYou are so stupid 
hahaha owned WP dude make onother SS when ur in action babe rofl hahaha
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:51 pm |
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