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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:49 am 
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euro warrior is closest u can get to Chinese as far as tanking and with cleric sub class and recovery division it rocks the place. I'm building one he's currently lvl 58 :P In my opinion then can tank as much as a sword hybrid nuker but with extremely good phy dmg too :)


lol lies. Have you ever seen a 1 hand warrior with cleric sub tank before? Way better than chinese

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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
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Chinese are just a bit more progressive towards being strong while Euros start out strong but they dont get stronger at the same rate as chinese. In the end Chinese and Euro will even out.


Lol, so stupid...

At the 140 cap, you can only have 2 masteries. That means you gotta pick between having no run speed, no physical dmg increase, or no ice wall. /fail



Honestly, why do people keep making these threads.........European > Chinese, get over it. Joymax MADE it that way so people pay for the game instead of getting bored. They WANT all the lvl 80 capped chinese people to reroll, after getting owned by euros in pvp over and over, and spend money capping their chars again. When islam comes out, they want those people to make an islam and spend silk for the 3rd time.


140 glaive, 140 fire, 20 ice, 100% moving speed potion.

Now I have ice wall, moving speed, AND physical dmg increase. :roll:

You honestly think Joymax would make one race amazingly better than another? Hell people are still looking at 1v1, it's group v group, mixed race parties = win.

oh wait, ice wall is lv23...
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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
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Lol, so stupid...

At the 140 cap, you can only have 2 masteries. That means you gotta pick between having no run speed, no physical dmg increase, or no ice wall. /fail



Honestly, why do people keep making these threads.........European > Chinese, get over it. Joymax MADE it that way so people pay for the game instead of getting bored. They WANT all the lvl 80 capped chinese people to reroll, after getting owned by euros in pvp over and over, and spend money capping their chars again. When islam comes out, they want those people to make an islam and spend silk for the 3rd time.


140 glaive, 140 fire, 20 ice, 100% moving speed potion.

Now I have ice wall, moving speed, AND physical dmg increase. :roll:

You honestly think Joymax would make one race amazingly better than another? Hell people are still looking at 1v1, it's group v group, mixed race parties = win.

oh wait, ice wall is lv23...
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oops! that's fire wall

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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
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Chinese are just a bit more progressive towards being strong while Euros start out strong but they dont get stronger at the same rate as chinese. In the end Chinese and Euro will even out.


Lol, so stupid...

At the 140 cap, you can only have 2 masteries. That means you gotta pick between having no run speed, no physical dmg increase, or no ice wall. /fail



Honestly, why do people keep making these threads.........European > Chinese, get over it. Joymax MADE it that way so people pay for the game instead of getting bored. They WANT all the lvl 80 capped chinese people to reroll, after getting owned by euros in pvp over and over, and spend money capping their chars again. When islam comes out, they want those people to make an islam and spend silk for the 3rd time.


mixed race parties = win.


I guess you missed the lionshout thread.
Group VS Group
Full European > Mixed = Islam > Full Chinese
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so Islam is like a hybrid between 1v1 and party? or is that just a hypothesis?

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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
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so Islam is like a hybrid between 1v1 and party? or is that just a hypothesis?


Hypothesis based on interviews with Joymax Employees.

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So... I don't get it.
Islam is OK in both Party and Solo? Hybrid shit? Lol...
A Cleric Healer and Tanker?

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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
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So... I don't get it.
Islam is OK in both Party and Solo? Hybrid shit? Lol...
A Cleric Healer and Tanker?


Joymax is falling. now they just add junk in

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Epic Fail


The point is you can only get 20 ice, which means pure ints will miss out on the rest of the skills (such as mana shield).

Euros ALWAYS will be able to max 2 masteries, since their mastery cap raises as they level. (Formula is x=Level*2)

Chinese will have a set mastery, meaning every cap they will have to sacrifice. (Formula is x=300.

ANYWAYS, on the joymax, comment, yes I do. Joymax has showed its stupidity time and time again. The new morningdew even thought that Castle Seige was an EVENT, and it was over. Lulz....

Joymax is adding zerk scrolls, temp item + 2 scrolls, ect. All they want is money, so yes they will overpower the next race to come out just to make some cash. I'll bet ya Islam will crush euros, just like euros crush chinese.

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It will be a chain?
Europeans Crush Chinese
Chinese Crush Islam
Islam Crush Europeans

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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
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I guess you missed the lionshout thread.
Group VS Group
Full European > Mixed = Islam > Full Chinese
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Chinese > Islam > European


If you could, link? Didn't really understand your post =s

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 Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux
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So... I don't get it.
Islam is OK in both Party and Solo? Hybrid shit? Lol...
A Cleric Healer and Tanker?


Summoner, Joymax hasn't given us any smaller details into exactly how they would fit in, other than: they are the medium of the extremes.

@sao, yeah like a chain, except it would depend on the situation.
@azilius, viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81187 read from page 3 on

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It will be a chain?
Europeans Crush Chinese
Chinese Crush Islam
Islam Crush Europeans



More like this:

Joymax: Hey, we has released silkroad, FREE to play!
Player 1: Okay!
Player 2: Cannot login due to server traffic. *Quits*
Player 1: *Buys premium, levels to 80 on a chinese*
Joymax: Hey, we has released European
Player 1: Grrrrrrr, these euros are owning my ass, but I worked so hard for this char...
Player 3: *Nukes player 1 for 20,000*
Player 1: Dammit! *Rerolls, levels to 80 again, with another premium*
Joymax: Hey, we has released teh Islam!
Player 1: *Goes to the bank to withdraw more money*

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Epic Fail


The point is you can only get 20 ice, which means pure ints will miss out on the rest of the skills (such as mana shield).

Euros ALWAYS will be able to max 2 masteries, since their mastery cap raises as they level. (Formula is x=Level*2)

Chinese will have a set mastery, meaning every cap they will have to sacrifice. (Formula is x=300.

ANYWAYS, on the joymax, comment, yes I do. Joymax has showed its stupidity time and time again. The new morningdew even thought that Castle Seige was an EVENT, and it was over. Lulz....

Joymax is adding zerk scrolls, temp item + 2 scrolls, ect. All they want is money, so yes they will overpower the next race to come out just to make some cash. I'll bet ya Islam will crush euros, just like euros crush chinese.


The fail comment wasn't directed to you, anyway. Pure ints should probably go ice + light, seeing as it gives mana shield, more int based dmg, more physical defence, etc. STR characters will be able to work with fire + weapon + 20 ice + speed pots.

@ Joymax blah blah

I won't discuss it further because it's based off speculation, no real proof.

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Well... the game is way to unbalanced ... Euro is for party play... every euro has its big advantange and big disadvatange ... We can compare it with puzzle ... One, lets say Wizard is one piece of puzzle ... When the Warrior joins him , the puzzle is bigger and the they ability to survive is bigger , the dmg is bigger and they are stronger overall ... They fill eachothers disadvantages. While China characters are moderate in everything ...

Lets see some paint skillz ...

Euro
We can see that euro fills up each other ... The Wizard gives party a power and agility (lets say he is sub bard with swing march :) )
While the Warrior gives the party defense and ability to survive.
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China
They are moderate in everything ... no disadvantages nor advantanges ... They add up each other
a little bit in every field (Power , Defense , Ability to Survive and Agility) ... but not much.
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Euro - Party Play
China - Solo
1v1- Luck and Gear


i agree with you, Nitro, nice work.

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So... I don't get it.
Islam is OK in both Party and Solo? Hybrid shit? Lol...
A Cleric Healer and Tanker?


Summoner, Joymax hasn't given us any smaller details into exactly how they would fit in, other than: they are the medium of the extremes.

@sao, yeah like a chain, except it would depend on the situation.
@azilius, viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81187 read from page 3 on


I don't see where you clearly proved a full euro party is better than a mixed one :? Anyway I'm not in the mood to get in a full on discussion that won't prove anything, as all this talk is based on the 'perfect settings' for your own character/party. Real proof comes in real game play, not discussions over these forums.

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So... I don't get it.
Islam is OK in both Party and Solo? Hybrid shit? Lol...
A Cleric Healer and Tanker?


Summoner, Joymax hasn't given us any smaller details into exactly how they would fit in, other than: they are the medium of the extremes.

@sao, yeah like a chain, except it would depend on the situation.
@azilius, viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81187 read from page 3 on


I don't see where you clearly proved a full euro party is better than a mixed one :? Anyway I'm not in the mood to get in a full on discussion that won't prove anything, as all this talk is based on the 'perfect settings' for your own character/party. Real proof comes in real game play, not discussions over these forums.



yea np everyone talks about euro parties as if 1 person is playing all 8 characters.
mistakes will happen. The cleric has the easy job though.

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Chinese can still own europeans with there suns! The only ones they can't own are the Warrior/Clerics

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Rick will kick all asses. Rick > Euro > Chi > Euro > African > Budda > Islam etc etc etc et.al, so on and so forth, blah blah blah blah.

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No one knows enough Islam to say anything about them. It is pointless to bring them up...

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I won't discuss it further because it's based off speculation, no real proof.



Everything in this world is speculation. Hell, we can't even prove if gravity exists....

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I won't discuss it further because it's based off speculation, no real proof.



Everything in this world is speculation. Hell, we can't even prove if gravity exists....


We will never know does gravity exist ... but we will know about Islam ... its matter of time ... So dont make conclusions ... let the time prove it

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You have talked about character abilities in the past. How will players use the abilities from the Greek gods or Islam lamp elves to advance their play?

Silkroad Team:
The European concept has been changed since then and the power of the Greek gods will not be available to the Europeans to use. Details have not been finalized on the use of Islamic lamp elves.


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Can you give us more insight to the types of classes and races that are in SilkRoad? They seem to run the spectrum from ancient Roman to ancient Chinese and include all the lands in between.

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The Chinese utilize ‘Ki’ as the foundation to the three major weapon techniques, three major combat masteries, and one healing art. The players that select the Chinese can select, in the absence of classes, any skill they want and thus create a unique character that is shaped purely by one’s own diverse choices of skills to develop. The Chinese warriors employ ‘Ki’ to maximize humanity’s potential and use this to battle.

The Europeans emphasize “Mana” as the force within humanity and strength which is demonstrated in the distinct classes which have specialties that only they can develop, are another race. European characters can be divided into 6 distinct classes: the warrior, rogue, wizard, warlock, bard, and cleric. This is the race where if these classes complement each other in a party well they can exhibit great manifestations of power.

The Arabians (Islamic characters) will have the ability to summon genies. The summoned genies will be able to battle and, through intensive training perform other feats of spirit magic. Islamic characters will be able to use the sword, blade, claw and the chakoram as their weapons. The genies will be able to train in the 4 attributes of Earth, Wind, Fire, and Water.


We have limited knowledge regarding the third race; we only have the images shown during the installment of the game and a couple of interviews. I guess the most logical way to design the Arabians is to use them to balance the game.

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I thought daggers were awesome... claws are going to be the shit...

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I thought daggers were awesome... claws are going to be the shit...


Hooded Katar FTW :D
The chakrams remind me of Xena :P

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I'm staying chinese, until Islam comes out. If they are "the shit", I'm going Islam.

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I won't discuss it further because it's based off speculation, no real proof.



Everything in this world is speculation. Hell, we can't even prove if gravity exists....


We will never know does gravity exist ... but we will know about Islam ... its matter of time ... So dont make conclusions ... let the time prove it


We don't know it exists, but we can still make conclusions based on the evidence placed before us, its part of being human. :wink:

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I won't discuss it further because it's based off speculation, no real proof.



Everything in this world is speculation. Hell, we can't even prove if gravity exists....


You know exactly what I meant -_-

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