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JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

Zerk is available for all, the devil spirits are not easy to aquire for everyone, it should be classed like silk dmg scrolls IMO.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

JKMB wrote:

Zerk is available for all, the devil spirits are not easy to aquire for everyone, it should be classed like silk dmg scrolls IMO.

Same for Prem+, sun weps, +7 weps. etc etc etc

bomben · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 117 **Location:**

u r pretty short on sp lol :p

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:33 pm

Crumpets wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

You can take it off (not use it) so it's not allowed IMO.

Same for 'zerk' ...

True, but unlike zerk. Not everyone can get the devil spirit (atleast the one from item mall)

If we wanted a real even match, everyone should use the same gear/wep but then everyone will have the same damage so that's why +ed/blu-ed and SoX is allowed. Prems because you can't turn them off.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

bomben wrote:

u r pretty short on sp lol :p

Ye I couldn't wait >.< But I have 491 fruits ;p so 21k-ish sp and enoguh hearts to take away the silly skills I leveld for fun. Which would give me a total of 50k. 30k short ;p

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

Personally I don't think any item mall items should count lol, but since tickets can't be taken off or anything it's not fair, so ya. I guess anything item mall can be used, but damn lol, Joymax has made it so if you don't buy silk your just screwed if you ever wanna pvp and stuff.

Certainly was a big dmg jump for the lvl 9x warrior lol.

Still think debuffs should be just for warlocks though lol ¬.¬.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:27 pm

DarkJackal wrote:

Still think debuffs should be just for warlocks though lol ¬.¬.

Yeah...Because it's damage per class, and not per build.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

DarkJackal wrote:

Still think debuffs should be just for warlocks though lol ¬.¬.

Yeah...Because it's damage per class, and not per build.

So a GLAIVE couldn't use imbue or phy increase from fire right ? Cause fire mastery is a different class tbh.

Stop bitching actually. As long as no 3rd party intefers with the damage I don't really care.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:45 pm

Whoah, roguese have more damage then wizz half of the time =D

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

Str crit ftw \o/.

Sacchin · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 2797

DarkJackal wrote:

Personally I don't think any item mall items should count lol, but since tickets can't be taken off or anything it's not fair, so ya. I guess anything item mall can be used

I don't think it's fair, to the poor folk. Tickets run out and item mall items can be taken off. But I have nothing to do with sro so it doesn't matter what I think >.> lol

dutchturk · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 57 **Location:** Amsterdam

got i any problems? becus im still not on the bard 2X classes ;/

link2113 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 503 **Location:**

8x 2h warrior
Link211 146,607

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

link2113 wrote:

8x 2h warrior
Link211 146,607

Spoiler!

SiCkBuLLeT · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:53 am

Does this count?

I got a Warlock to cast division on a Mang then zerked my nuker and 212k its sorry ass? xD

TeamLosi · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 337 **Location:**

ImmortalKiller wrote:

link2113 wrote:

8x 2h warrior
Link211 146,607

Spoiler!

Wasnt him saying it ^_^

link2113 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 503 **Location:**

what did i do? lol

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

TeamLosi wrote:

ImmortalKiller wrote:

link2113 wrote:

8x 2h warrior
Link211 146,607

Spoiler!

Wasnt him saying it ^_^

'Twasn't serious. :wink:

link2113 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 503 **Location:**

what did i do? lol :banghead:

bomben · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 117 **Location:**

they refer to ur union chat window

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

meh i dont think its fair to debuff (if it actually does anything), like someone else said on this page i think...it should be judged based on class rather then build, although i do get the point being made for chinese chars and buffs but rogue+lock =/= rogue+cleric/bard or w/e.

Snoopy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:16 am

Well, if that's the case. Chinese should be based on class also. Not build. Why do we take 90 Fire, 90 Heuksal, 90 Lightning, 30 Cold. We take the necessary classes/subclasses in order to be strong. No point going 90 Heuksal, 20 Fire, 20 Cold, 20 Lightning, because that would be pathetic and weak. Therefore CHINESE too rely on Build not just one single class.

So Europeans should be allowed to use Warlock Debuffs if that is a part of their build, a part of their class, or their subclass etc. It is only fair, and imo it is more fair than Honor Buffs (Which; if killed in PVP and you re-spawn will no longer be there).

That's my two-bobs worth.

Edit: Shaded is the most legit guild in that union. (If they're still in Surreal union, if I remember correctly from when I was in Shaded). However, just because Shaded chose to play the server, with the bots as opposed to against the bots like Venus etc doesn't necessarily make them bot-supporters, they just have different opinions on what it means to be legit.

AznFury · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:58 am

Snoopy wrote:

Well, if that's the case. Chinese should be based on class also. Not build. Why do we take 90 Fire, 90 Heuksal, 90 Lightning, 30 Cold. We take the necessary classes/subclasses in order to be strong. No point going 90 Heuksal, 20 Fire, 20 Cold, 20 Lightning, because that would be pathetic and weak. Therefore CHINESE too rely on Build not just one single class.

So Europeans should be allowed to use Warlock Debuffs if that is a part of their build, a part of their class, or their subclass etc. It is only fair, and imo it is more fair than Honor Buffs (Which; if killed in PVP and you re-spawn will no longer be there).

That's my two-bobs worth.

Edit: Shaded is the most legit guild in that union. (If they're still in Surreal union, if I remember correctly from when I was in Shaded). However, just because Shaded chose to play the server, with the bots as opposed to against the bots like Venus etc doesn't necessarily make them bot-supporters, they just have different opinions on what it means to be legit.

i thought euros were allowed to use their subs for the contest. as long as they didn't get someone else to debuff the mob.

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

Chinese is different though, everyone does get an imbue.

Not all Euros get debuffs, if 1 warrior has debuffs, and the other has cleric skills, of course the debuff one is gona do more dmg. I just figured it would be a lil more fair to give every class a chance, instead of just those with warlock sub >.>.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

DarkJackal wrote:

Still think debuffs should be just for warlocks though lol ¬.¬.

Yeah...Because it's damage per class, and not per build.

So a GLAIVE couldn't use imbue or phy increase from fire right ? Cause fire mastery is a different class tbh.

Stop bitching actually. As long as no 3rd party intefers with the damage I don't really care.

No weapon switching rule should fix all problems here.

mike2007 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1672 **Location:**

Nitro wrote:

No weapon switching rule should fix all problems here.

genius

bomben · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 117 **Location:**

or just give them their own ranking

link2113 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 503 **Location:**

oh lol they werent talking about bots i think idk i dont even have union but yea massive ownage

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

DarkJackal wrote:

Chinese is different though, everyone does get an imbue.
Not all Euros get debuffs, if 1 warrior has debuffs, and the other has cleric skills, of course the debuff one is gona do more dmg. I just figured it would be a lil more fair to give every class a chance, instead of just those with warlock sub >.>.

completely agree

Snoopy · **Posted:** Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:59 am

DarkJackal wrote:

Chinese is different though, everyone does get an imbue.

Not all Euros get debuffs, if 1 warrior has debuffs, and the other has cleric skills, of course the debuff one is gona do more dmg. I just figured it would be a lil more fair to give every class a chance, instead of just those with warlock sub >.>.

Ok well my point is this.

When you start off, you have the choice. Would you rather have an increase in defense for a certain amount of time? Or would you rather increase your damage and hopefully kill the other person before they kill you?

Hence, Cleric = Inc. in Def.
Warlock = Decrease in opponent Def.

Like for Chinese, if you decided to have Force over Cold or Lightning, you're sacrificing Parry or Phy Defense in order to increase your damage while that debuff is casted on the opponent.

So in my opinion, of course they're going to hit higher, but that is after all, the reason they picked that Sub-Class over a defensive Sub-Class.

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