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not really a war. but if all the ass kissers were outnumbering those who know his true nature then yes i will counter-post with them, to support them. your statement is true. this whole thing will be shortly forgotten and another one will happen in the near future. its a neverending cycle sadly.

btw i only quoted you to make a point. i support everyone who has a good sense of judgement.

THAT smart is relative. He is smart enough to make you believe, one way or another, that he can get your accounts back or fear him taking your account. Whether he can or not is probably impossible to prove, but you think he can. He must have figured out something that not everyone can figure out OR he is a brilliant liar. Either way, he is smart.

Yes he is. go stand in front of a mirror and take a good look inside you're head. because you will find him there.

Imma going to bed,the prospect of a real life girlfriend and my pillow sounds more inviting then picking fights with other people.

If any of you go farming or grinding have fun and take care.

I honestly don't know why people keep on accusing me of being a hacker all the time. It really hurts my feelings, breaks my heart, and it pains me deeply when I'm accused of doing such a terrible thing to another human being.

he is smart indeed
but not that smart
its not him, its his friend that can do that acc's thingy

Awwwww

you all suck and i hate u all and i hope u all go to hell. /rant



ryoko, i miss joo buddy!!

and i was kidding. i dont hate u you. just most of you.

-credits to ava

lol

and not to forget silkroad is just a great game even making everyone who complains or moves to other games (for example nightbloom) came back when we got "the" update, no idea what ryoko is doing or if he ever came back to silkroad or not.

and as grimjaw said



kinda summarize this whole topic.

i would like to compare dem problem with SRF and master_wong problem with Joymax,
both probably bitched that much some people got tired of it even when most things they were complaining about was simply the truth, these forums just got huge compared to the begin (more people = more stress)

Since Ryoko lost his love to another game the forums did change a lot more things probably were also an influence but i consider that as the main problem

dem is correct on a lot of his anger/comments there are probably way too many things that happened in the past to actually come up with a solution

no one can be perfect but stealmysoda is getting close.


pff and i am too freaking drunk to reply anyway this took me about 30minutes

lol he's just standing next to him it's not a proof... imma go next to Sperm and say STOP BOTTING and screen before he reply...

OK WE ARE NOT hashing up the spirit bullcrap AGAIN

Get over it! Honestly!

You so mad shes here? Shes harmless.

Frikken annoying, but harmless

Im sorry it bothers people so much

Yes, she chases me around with "hi ryoko heh heh touch my blahblah and you love so and so" with stupid icons and pictures

But it makes me laugh

A lot

Who cares

She doesnt bring up bot and talk about bot promote bot brag about bot and make problems over it - YOU guys make problems over it.

Hypocryte?

Wait, for banning people pro-bot who make bot statements

And leaving someone alone who never talks about bots?

My bad.

omg man.. u wernt there at yachas in xian at 70 cap..

sprite was botting 24/7


everyone had those pic as their avatar.. as well as dj's pic

and the thread was over 50 pages long (as stated aready)

accept the fact that d2a is better than you and stop flaming him and get back on topic

here's my say on how to improve SRF:

1) BANNING. i seen many members and old skool folks get banned left and right with the << >> in their sig and i believe people shouldn't get ban unless it's absoolutely necesary like spambots and et. for instance its no secret that over 90 perc of people in tis game bot and there are many peeps here that hide in the closet. some peeps who been here for al ong time made post confessing to using a bot and got ban. i dont think that's right as long as the person dont flame the legits and claim have no life. i hate that too as im only level 63 all these months. but people who admits to botting shouldn't be banned though as long as they do it without flaming legits and i dont think people get banned for disagreeing with whoever or mods or who ever like demathl

2) LOCKING THREADS. people flame all the time I don't believe threads should be locked as a result of it, because they do the same in the next threads and so forth. for instance, crumps and Icecream flame d2u in every threads claiming "OMG D2A is teh vI1 hax0r" and then many threads get locked as a result of it. that's just not the way to solve it. now while I believe CUmpkets and Icecream have the freedom of speech, i don't believe threads should get locked because it has flame in it. perhaps telling peopel to stop flaming and warning them instead of locking and put bandaid on it.

3) MOVING THREADS TO SPECAL SEKTION. i see no reaoson to move threads to special mod only section at all unless its from spambot. if there are flames lock it. if someone says stuff a mod disagree, then reply to it or lock it but its annoying when u click on a thread to read it and it no longer exists

well thats all

Yeah as Ryoko said somewhere before ... what's SRF without BF? She's our mascot.

I agree with Ryoko. Leave the poor Fox alone. She's harmless.

A) Comments appreciated. Right approach.

B) Special section is there for a reason. When a post violates allowed content, we can't "leave it here". Then you could post whatever the **** you want, and it just gets locked. Meaning, everyone still sees it anyway whether its locked or not.

This originated from the slanderous rule VS people posting bot pics.

1- We said, no slander.

2- People said, okay, I post my bot pic, you lock it, everyone still reads it, even though you said, no slander.

We gave you guidlines to post around; that does not mean create a 15 page dramatic bullshit guidline-breaking thread and ride it out until its seen and locked, then left behind for everyone to see the slanderous bullshit ANYWAY.

Sometimes we move things temporarilty, to chop / trunkate / rerelease while were working on it.

This used to be the admin lounge, and it was crappy to have junk in there among the other posts.

Soooo it seems some people dislike the idea the "bullshit" is saved and we can recap it at any time.

HEY, you guys posted that bullshit. Not us. If you have a problem with its existance, and potential for being looked at or quoted later, don't post it today.

BLACKFOX 4 LYF

you seem to be completely lost.

your definition of better seems to be kinda wrong. i consider him as strong his attitude and his screams for attention all day long make him weak, even with that gear+build he is still weak enough to shout and ask for fans (cause that is what he does all day long when visiting these forums) he is like a hot dude that can get all chicks but in the end turns out to be gay.

1: that 90% of silkroad players bot does not directly state that 90% of srf is a bot.
any bot related topic should be removed since the forums has grown that much you can`t know if its the truth or not and best solution is already being used by SRF
block any bot talk.

2: d2a attention screaming and especially his "friend" who can hack talk makes him the target for those people since his "friend" is not openly claiming those things as d2a is doing.
locking threads is sometimes the only solution to calm people down and yes it seems to work with this large community

3: some things are better when kept secret not everyone is ready for open information.

Some moderators have been replaced or are inactive and it is normal that the mentality of the forum also changes then.

BLACKFOX 4 MOD

not letting people post bot threads was the 1st step in letting bots run silkroad. gg

the biggest reason people are legit is because of the reputation you get for being a botter. when killed by a 80 botter, a level 40 can say "your a fucken bot" and feel good about himself. this lets the poor guy keep playing legit.

but wait, bot threads are too much of a problem to read thu. lets just get rid of them. lets take the ONE weapon legits have, and get rid of it.

guess what happened next? people got used to bots. people accepted them. people no longer feared being labled as a bot. on xian, being a botter was even considered "cool" by some 10 year old **** known as the bear club.

if being a bot is no longer a crime, dont expect anyone to play legit. the problem began on tavern, and silkroad forums made it 20x worse. as far as im concerned, this is a pro-bot forum and has been since mid 70 cap.

you write well for a drunk, however i concur.

BLACKFOX 4 MOD, DOWN WITH D2A

I read every word of every post in this thread.

Many of you have expressed things that I agree with 100%. Many of you have said things that I do not agree with, or at least not to the extent or for the same reasons as you do.


Part of me agrees with those who have said that good people have been banned for bad reasons, that good threads are locked, and bad people seemingly "protected". A large part of me wants to purge the entire banned list (if not for the fact that that would enable thousands of spambots to plague our forum again). Part of me wants to lift the restrictions on discussion of botting, hacking, etc., and even of mod actions and criticisms. Part of me wants to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.


The other part of me agrees with those who feel that the rules are not enforced strictly enough, that we are lax, lenient, and let too many people get away with too much. That part of me wants to ban everyone who causes flames, problems, and is a continual thorn in the side of SRF. That part of me wants to ban people who i KNOW bot, hack, etc., regardless of whether or not they've ever admitted it. That part is screaming at me to cut out the cancer that plauges SRF and allow the clean flesh to heal. A different kind of clean slate, perhaps.


But i cannot bow to the wishes of either of those parts.


If i removed all restraints, the community would crumble. Every post would be a flame, spam, inappropriate image, etc. Nothing would be worth reading anymore. People would leave here in droves; faster than they are leaving now.

If i cracked down on the haters, the suck-ups, the instigators, the liars, and the cheaters, the SRF staff would be branded a fascist regime (moreso than even now), and every forum would be flooded by revenge posts made by proxied users who were banned "unfairly", spewing all manner of filth all over the forum. Nothing would be worth reading anymore. People would leave here in droves; faster than they are leaving now.


A true leader becomes a leader not because he wants to lead, but because people around him look to him for leadership whether he wants it or not. A true leader knows that it is impossible to lead in a way that will make everyone happy all of the time. Whether or not I am fit to be a leader is not for me to decide, but I have had leadership bestowed upon me here at SRF, and I try my best to operate by those two philosophies.

Sometimes i win. Sometimes i lose. Sometimes I go to bed satisfied that I did the right thing, and sometimes i lay awake wondering if there WAS a right thing.


I know what I want SRF to be. It may be that what i hold up as my ideal isn't possible with the state of things. But i also know what i DON'T want SRF to be.

I never want people to be afraid to speak their minds. I know that they are because of rules that I helped create, that I enforce, and that I have trained the staff to uphold. But to feel unable to speak up for what you believe for fear of consequences is not an environment that i feel comfortable being a part of.

I never want it to seem like we are protecting those in this game who deliberately act to cause others misery, to cheat for personal gain, or who abuse any part of this game or community. I understand that it seems like that happens every time we lock or move a topic about those things, but we do these things to protect YOU, the legit (or at least legit-pretending) members of this forum, from having to read about so-and-so lobbing bot accusations back and forth. It is an attempt to keep negative and pointless conversations OUT in hopes to bolster the POSITIVE conversations. It doesn't seem to be working.

I never want it to seem like the mods' power is absolute and that they are allowed to act in ways that normal users are not. We are real people. We get up every day and put our pants on one leg at a time, we have real jobs, go to real schools, and deal with real problems. We make mistakes, lose our tempers, are sometimes unsure of the best way to handle things, sometimes handle things poorly or terribly. Some of us are more experienced than others. Some of us have personal grudges that make it hard to deal with certain people, etc. ALL of us are constantly learning. NONE of us are perfect. We're GOING to screw up. And when we do, you're GOING to get offended. All we can do is all try to work it out. There's a right way and a wrong way. If you can't figure out what those right and wrong ways are, I'll be hally to talk to you about it. PM me, we'll get on vent, MSN, etc.

I never want it to seem like certain users on here are allowed to get away with things that others are not, have special privileges, or are above reproach. I'll take full responsibility for this one. I am the only active admin (which may be a problem in and of itself). I am the only one who can ban users, and as such i generally have the final say on whether or not to pull the trigger. We vote on every regular user we ban, but at the end of the day, it's me adding ID and IP into the ban list. Some people get away with too much. But no user who should be banned will NOT be banned because they are friends with a mod, because they have a fan club or a circle of friends here, because they gave someone else gold or gear, or because of any kind of favoritism. I have no way to prove to any of you that that is true; all i have is my word, which i have worked DAMN hard on here to keep and to maintain the value of.


But these things exist. And the mods can only do so much. In some cases, they maybe should do less. In some, more. But the rest has to come from you. I will give my MSN to anyone who wants it and whom i feel can help make a difference. I may not always be here, but i'm always online, and you can always reach me there.

Be positive. That is what this forum needs more than anything else. Just let go of all the bullshit, the grudges, the slights, the grievances, the issues, whether real or imagined. Let's fix it. It can be done.


The rules are going to be examined and revised where necessary. I encourage ANYONE to respond to me directly through PM if they have something useful to contribute.


I love SRF. Help me, and us, fix it.

OMG after SG just posted that.....well i dunno a declaration/manifesto/publication/testament.... that if read should have satisfied everyone here and ended all arguement you continue with the same stuff.....


-_-



im going back to the OTL where i belong

I'm not worried bout that ss lol seeing as I know what he did to it. May I ask how you got my ID tho ?

Oo... You actually quoted Crumpets' immature pm to D2A, with someones id =/ You realize what you just did?

wow, i gotta be honest i never liked you very much...
But after this post im really happy and i think ur not the way i thought
so k , fine..
As long as D2a stops gabbing, ill stop with the"youh acked my friend and blablabla" stuff.
If there happens to be a change, and it makes me feel its ok to let d2a talk because i know he wont get anywhere, then ill stop.

ACCUSATIONS IN THIS THREAD = OVER.

FLAMING IN THIS THREAD = OVER.

ATTACKS AT INDIVIDUALS = OVER.




EITHER CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY OR GTFO.


</angry SG>