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Joymax has poor customer service. We all know that. The debate on botting died after a quick reread of the TOS. I don't see any debate here though, just some very patient people going out of their way to try and talk sense into these deluded asshats who think that Joymax somehow allows botting.

Damm...You ppl still arguing about cheating and morals?..attacking and blaming botters?..I've been posting tryin to direct your frustration to real cause of all the problems....Gaymax.... This is what major corporations love to see..us squabbling amongst ourself and neglecting to see the real problem.

I don't like botters just as much as the next guy but why should I waste my time complaining about them when I should be giving joymax hell for having this problem running 4 years straight and counting?

You're the asshat for thinking joymax doesn't allow botting. They don't allow botting in the sense that they endorse it but in the sense that they don't give a rats ass. How many years has it been now since we have this bot problem?...Do you see any real improvements?

I think I'm a perfectly good example of a moral person. =)

As for your post..How can you compare getting the upper hand with alchemy to botting? Likewise with fireshield, snowshield, item mall etc. The difference is all of those are ALLOWED. Get it? It's not rocket science. Botting is not allowed, item mall is allowed! Omg so hard to comprehend!

I don't know what you're getting at with the powerlevel part but since when did legits cry about powerleveling and go wah wah wah? Maybe if you're getting powerleveled by a bot, which again is SELF EXPLANATORY. I can't really tell if in your last little sentence you're admitting to being one of the said douchebags this topics been discussing but never the less..go fuck yourself.

>_>. Ok even I can tell this is starting to just be a name calling contest. Since this will now prob get closed unless you guys stop insulting each other and just talk about the topic only, I just wanna say Thank-You for taking the time to express your views. Made for a very interesting and fun read. If we're lucky, this will stay open and people will stop resorting to insults to get their point across. If not, owell It was an interesting 10 pages. Cheers until the next point is brought up.

There's one of these every week I'd say. Most get locked a lot faster than this because most of the people arguing in favour of bots are botters themselves (do note the most, before anyone goes omg bot accusation!) and the name calling is brought up a lot faster..

Being incompetent equates to condoning botting? This farcical debate is about legitimate gameplay, not Joymax's incompetence (of which they are).

Am I an asshat for thinking Joymax doesn't allow botting? What are they banning bots for then? I don't make a distinction of the plethora of bots out there. Bots are still bots. Just because people bot and get away with it, doesn't mean that Joymax supports it. What are you trying to get at exactly? I'm stating that players who think Joymax don't ban them for botting actually means that Joymax is allowing them to <--- this is the asshat highlighted in all his/her glory.

I'm not gonna call anyone an asshate or whatever, but I think Joymax does condone it, or rather let it slide. They put up a front to keep legits hopeful and newcomers wanting to give it a try. War on bots, sounds pretty nice, 3,000 bots banned per week seems like alot. Except for the fact that there are over 30+ servers making that total over 105,000 + players in all, not including those who are not online at a given time. I'm pretty sure we have well over 3 mil registered users. How many are the same people I don't know. What I do know is that people that SPAM "I am a botter, **** you joymax, come suck my dick or ban me!!!" are still around doing the same shit. This is one VERY obvious example. Sure they ban simple bots and every now and than an actual playerbots gets banned, but just because they ban some simple bots using an automated process that you should fall for their scheme. I've been playing for 4 years now, same shit is still occuring as the very first. If they wanted to change, they would've now. They just simply made it easier for bots. No more items that can kill bots, no more GM patrolling, no more monster scrolls that could be used to kill bots. It is very hopeless now. The remaining legits are holding on to a fading light. I know I am. I still think maybe JM might be working on some secret plan to ban all the bots at once. But now that I hear SRO2 is being developed, odds of that happening are even slimmer. Sure JM never said botting is ok, but neither does their action show that they are truly against botting. It's like they're just making a half-ass attempt to show they have a clean game when it's really soiled to the bones.

hi,

It's been a looonggg time since my last post... and i hope this will not be my last.

I'm gonna talk freely here...
All my friends that was played SRO from the first close beta is boting now. Why? i ask them... the answer is the same = "because they can and free bot is easy to find. when Joymax put stuff like gold ticket on the market, they screw us... and its only fair that we screw their rules. Now ppl with money can play "legitly" but we who supported SRO from the beginning must spend a few hours a day trying to login due to full server. All other stuff in life cost money and we will not spend them on a video game that just for fun."

So, the point is... "u got your gold ticket, we got our bot... fair"

I'm sorry to say, i completely agreed with them. Don't get me wrong. I dont bot... hell, i don't even playing seriously anymore nowadays... 2-3 hours a week on the weekend maybe (Prodogy on Xian... maybe some of u guys know me... from xian open till no.. lvl 64 LOL).

So the point is... in my opinion... Legits is only a par set by people measuring fairness in something. Legits in one eyes doesn't mean legits in others. True to your self... if ur playing SRO as fair as u can... so u are "Legits"

This is just my opinion, so any1 that doesn't agree is understandable.
just quick note... i may not be back anytime so don't bother to flame at me... sry

Thx
Ps- English not my primary lang, so please pardon any mistake
- SuicideGrl is Admin?... lol... it really is a looonggg time.. all the best to you

I just read the same rehashed shit again and again.

I know this isn't your opinion but your friends, but I quoted it to point out that my friends lol their asses off reading this.

didn't really find what he said funny but i gotta agree that it's a pretty odd thing to say.

So anyway what was the reason they gave (if any) for the major decrease in the amount of bots they added to the ban list? I remember the 25k+ lists but that was around the time i left the game, after i came back a year or so later it was reduced to what it is now.
They pretty much shot themselves in the foot by adding more & more servers instead of keeping a lid on the gold bots. Afterall more servers = bigger expenses, more people to ban & very few players leftover to cover costs. They're probably trying to come up with a way of keeping profits up to a decent level once they're left with a few 000s players after a clean out. Either that or the lottery implementation & the recent altered avatars that have come out are a means for Joymax save up alot to last them until the servers start filling up again with real players who'll buy stuff from the mall & get the companies finance to a healthy level again.

Azilius your the most repulsive piece of crap i've ever came across. I'm so glad your no longer on greece. I hated your guts so much, even when we were in the same union. Get a life kid.

I dunno for the most part I think Azi is fine. Most people if not all I have seen that "hate" him are botters, bot supporters, etc. Which in this case I think speaks more of you than him. Especially judging from your immature response here.

I'll second that.

Azilius, don't believe what they all say about you. You're alright

... you had to generalize again did you?
though you could be right about the

part, this might just be personal.

OT:
Joymax should answer those botting questions at an upcoming conference to truly state their views on the games situation, email service is not quite helping people get any idea about that..

How do you know Joymax moved them and not the account owner?

There is a red-light district in JG

Hehe. There's a reason he's no longer in my union.

I took my stance on botting and I stand by it with no regret. People don't like that and that's fine with me.

i picked teh last one cuz this whole thread is a joke ^^

K im gonna report you in EB nao.

No, when people compare real life and silkroad, it becomes a joke.

no bén plýs men ý no botër mens 10k plýs fack ü mather

I've not read all the text behind me but here is my opion.

When the bots started on silkroad online, I cant date it, but it was a great throw on the legit eyes. I went upp on a new server, when I finally started to learn the game system, and I tought that I'm a pro player. The first botter created a noob hibrid char, and he owned all on that server. I remember that times, there wasnt guilds in the first 1-3 days in the server, and goldbots and spambots werent here, you had all the free spots to level. And this guy just left all of us, and he reached lvl70 imadeitly of course. We waited some miracle happens and jm going to ban him, I pmed him some times but he was of course ignorant. Nowdays if somebody statrs to bot on a new server that we call normal. So the rules changed and this is it. The legits not really exist out there, there is many reason, for example most of the legits powerleveled by bots, and of course the whole game system is already abused and make some easy envorment for the legits, for example allways cheap elixirs in the stall varius item, suns, and so on. I know there was a fair game, but if you read above thats over. You can come here and say you bot I bot and this is not fair because this is a cheat, no its not, botting is not a cheat anymore, and I think most of the legits forget to admit this thing. If you want to be legit, turn other mmos wich meant to be played by legit, I mean where the gms not tolerate using illegal auto train programs. And I'M asking sorry, but the dumbest thing is legits buy all the premium tickets pets and so on, but they refuse to buy a bot wich is 5$ / month nowdays. So legits are totally slaves of this abused system, of cours if they are even really exist.

The secound main problem what legits dont want to face this is a booring game, booring to level, you can level by your hand for awhile, maybe 1-2 year but this is hard to belive for me. First there is not many players who addicted so that they level years by hand, secound is other botters allways beat and ks them. If this is not going to happen then the actual legit is being powerleveled by other botters, maybe they are not saying they using bot but its a fact, you cant doit with hand. So if you try this game even in legit ways, like many us of did because the game started as a legit game, then you should admit it that you dont want to crack your fingers again by pressing 123 and so on and turn to bot or leave. Many of us turned to bot, and if you think on it there is nothing strange on that. The game system is still enjoyable if you bot and you save upp your time spend by training.

So summaring all the thing, lvl90-100 legits fith full farmed sp ??? No way !!! Other legits powerleveld by bots. The real legits maybe there maybe not I am not seeing any evidence nowdays for that. There are a group who calling themselfs legits, and they think they are better than bots, but the sad fact they are not, and they are probally wasting their time and money on this game.

ravkin you dumb shit. The next time you decide not to read a thread, just don't post. The little fucker thinks he just wrote something original. The rules of a game are not meant to be broken. If you don't play by the rules, you don't play the game anymore. Having said that, why do all botters try an justify what they do? It's like if you ever wanted to cheat, why not keep it to yourself? Once everyone is doing it (much like what isro is now, a bot haven) then no one really gets any advantage. Really, isro is just as fun if played as a role playing game with friends, and that bit of fun is what players like you miss out.

ì bén ù okë mÿ GËÄM?

Hmm, I would agree that botters don't get the experience to grind with friends, but there are exceptions. I know that some of my botters friends know that i'm legit, so when I log on, they'll ask if i wanna grind with them. They will either go with me to something my lvl and we'll mess around, or they'll take me to chin tomb and we'll go kill uniques together. While we're grinding, they usually take off their bot so we can mess around, talk, etc. I know most botters are afk 24/7, but some do still hang out with the community. Since this is a MMOrpg, it's international. Some of your friends might only be on for 2-3 hours a day while ur on for 12+ due to time zone diff. I think some botters bot while all their friends are away and hang out when they're on.

Just in case someone starts shoving fire down my throat, I'm not condoning bots, i'm just saying, some do enjoy grinding with friends, while most don't.

When you post it is a joke. And not funny at that. Think of the children. And then never have any.

@ravkin
The rules never changed. That you think thy did flags you as part of the problem and not the solution.

Plenty of people have trained to various caps by hand no bot plvl etc. Myself included. Getting plvled by a bot is using a bot therefore not legit.

Anyone who spends any time or money on this game is wasting both legit or not.

The game is not boring when paid right. Euro parties can be a lot of fun.

@Trace

1. I have read most of the post, not all, and that is a little difference, as I write it above read it again if you want.

2. You can call me dumb shit or little fcker or whatever you want, but I think you not enough grow upp to see the real face of this problem, that there is no problem, there is nothing I, or somebody needs to justified. Its was the deal of joymax, they did a decision to not to ban their mass of silkuser community. Sometimes you talk like not knowing how many botters out there. Personally I cannot investigate all the players if they are bot or not, but I can tell you a number there is 90% people each server, and I not counted the countless goldbots all around the server, which remains nowdays unbanned by our great joymax team. You can feel hurted by this, and I know how's its feel cause I know what being a legit means, but if you decided to walk on the legit way in this game that is your own social problem, and I can tell most of the players will not even care.

@Goseki

Goseki you are half right, because botters are pretty active in party levellings. Thinking that botters are 24/7 inactive persons who are turn their bots and let it run is a stupid thing. Botters playing this game too, they are doing parties, going to event going to fortress war. Bot is just a tool for them to gain experencie when they are away and I think this is what you have understand. They are also talkative when they are listening to the game, a 24/7 botting one who are not even talking, of course there is some of them, but they arent really welcomed even it bot circles.

@ping_lo

I think you missunderstand someting, the game is really not boring, but making your char, even if you play 24/7 wich is impossible in legit ways is taking too long. Taking long like no mmrpg game out there. Its almost taking more than a year to be full farmed and lvl100 even with bot. Then imagine this on legit ways. Look at wow, its more easy to level upp, its not desinged to be grinded until you get craizy, and bots going to be banned over there.


Most of the guys like me doesnt even care about this problem, I just tell you this things because I hope I can dismiss some missunderstanding about this problem. If you think that the botters are some black guys who are keep quiet until they reach max level, and they have to fear from bann then you are wrong. And this is the problem itself that the problem not even existed. If you can enter this game you choose the way how you play it. Legit bot, you can call whatever you want, or you can choose whatever reason to play this game such as friends trades etc... But when you say there is a bot, no matter how you declare yourself it in your mind, the paperform coming from jm, botting is a part of this game, player bots are legits and they will never be banned, and this is stand almost since 3 years, and not suspected that this will change in the future.

No need for that...

The way i see it is that your using the lengh of time it takes to reach the cap & be FF to be reason enough to justify the use of a bot. If you don't want to spend all that time grinding to cap then go & join a private server that has like a +10 - 25% exp / sp boost.

The legits i know don't seem that bothered about reaching cap & they prefere partying with their friends / guildies for 3-5 hours a day (sometimes not even that) or just sitting around chatting the days away. I'm pretty sure it's like that for all the legits out there. So why would you feel the need to bot if your in that kind of situation?