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Detective
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:32 am |
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huejas wrote: Which stat did you changed then? ohh.... it must have been the Crit, at 100% =) wooot so Awesome man
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:36 am |
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Detective wrote: huejas wrote: Which stat did you changed then? ohh.... it must have been the Crit, at 100% =) wooot so Awesome man the attack rating..
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:42 pm |
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wootpops wrote: Detective wrote: Which stat did you changed then? ohh.... it must have been the Crit, at 100% =)
wooot so Awesome man
the attack rating.. thank, you!
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:06 am |
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huejas wrote: wootpops wrote: Detective wrote: Which stat did you changed then? ohh.... it must have been the Crit, at 100% =)
wooot so Awesome man
the attack rating.. thank, you! no problem.. c'mere, pull it into hug harbor.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:45 pm |
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balooo wrote: imho those % u can get with stones sux pretty much. they should made the alchemy system to give a random number between 0-100 what  ...I rather have a Fixed % from stones then getting anything from 1-100...so you want to use 50+ stones to get random whites anywhere from 1% 3% 17% 13% 23% 27% or any other shitty % that is below 61% lol. At least with the current system to you know what the outcome can be anything from here "0% 22% 41% 61% 80% and 100%" 6 fixed % rather then 100 random whites, its already somewhat difficult to get above 61% just from 6 diff. outcomes let alone 100
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:07 pm |
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balooo wrote: would u rather have a crit 6 sword after u used 200 stones? fixed stats are stupid (my opinion) U miss my point all I can say, I think crit has 5 diff. crit outcomes (1, 5, 9 ect.) so would u rather have 14 (depending on weapon) diff outcomes when trying to fix crit? maybe use 500 stones to get crit 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and fail 100x ?
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:40 pm |
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Ragnorak wrote: balooo wrote: would u rather have a crit 6 sword after u used 200 stones? fixed stats are stupid (my opinion) U miss my point all I can say, I think crit has 5 diff. crit outcomes (1, 5, 9 ect.) so would u rather have 14 (depending on weapon) diff outcomes when trying to fix crit? maybe use 500 stones to get crit 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and fail 100x ? lol you fail in probability lets say you want at least 60% with the current system you can have like 2 chances out of 5 (61% and 80%), which is basicly equals to 40%. but if it would be 100 different possibilities (from 1 to 100), then you have 40% chance (from 60 to 100%). get my point? it wouldnt be harder to achieve the same stat because there is more possible values, because it also means there is more 'good' possible values, not only more 'bad'. And it would make items more unique. Kinda sucks to have weapons attack power always at 80% on the very good one, then drop to 61% on the good ones and so on... why not have more 90%?
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:26 pm |
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You_Dead_Yet wrote: Ragnorak wrote: balooo wrote: would u rather have a crit 6 sword after u used 200 stones? fixed stats are stupid (my opinion) U miss my point all I can say, I think crit has 5 diff. crit outcomes (1, 5, 9 ect.) so would u rather have 14 (depending on weapon) diff outcomes when trying to fix crit? maybe use 500 stones to get crit 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and fail 100x ? lol you fail in probability lets say you want at least 60% with the current system you can have like 2 chances out of 5 (61% and 80%), which is basicly equals to 40%.but if it would be 100 different possibilities (from 1 to 100), then you have 40% chance (from 60 to 100%). get my point? it wouldnt be harder to achieve the same stat because there is more possible values, because it also means there is more 'good' possible values, not only more 'bad'.And it would make items more unique. Kinda sucks to have weapons attack power always at 80% on the very good one, then drop to 61% on the good ones and so on... why not have more 90%? you have to understand that this more then just % of success but what the outcomes of getting higher then 60% are...on the current system u said the is a 40% chance of getting 80% or 100% but there are only TWO possible outcome either if u succeed u get 80% or 100%...now on a random system of 1-100 there is also a 40% chance of getting higher then 60% however there "39" possible outcomes if you succeed. so if you succeed you can get a 61% 62% 63% 71% ect. up to 39 possible outcomes so it would extremely difficult to get any % higher then 80... ur random system would also give 59 possible outcomes of getting less then 60% compare to 3 (0% 22% 41% i believe)so yeah, you might use 200 stones and all the % u get are less then highest lowest >>22%...u think it would be fun to use about 40 stones to get %'s such as 1% 5% 7% 19% on whites??? my point>>>>>Random system of 1-100 would be a much greater disadvantage to you.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =) Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:10 pm |
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Ragnorak wrote: You_Dead_Yet wrote: Ragnorak wrote: U miss my point all I can say, I think crit has 5 diff. crit outcomes (1, 5, 9 ect.) so would u rather have 14 (depending on weapon) diff outcomes when trying to fix crit? maybe use 500 stones to get crit 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and fail 100x ? lol you fail in probability lets say you want at least 60% with the current system you can have like 2 chances out of 5 (61% and 80%), which is basicly equals to 40%.but if it would be 100 different possibilities (from 1 to 100), then you have 40% chance (from 60 to 100%). get my point? it wouldnt be harder to achieve the same stat because there is more possible values, because it also means there is more 'good' possible values, not only more 'bad'.And it would make items more unique. Kinda sucks to have weapons attack power always at 80% on the very good one, then drop to 61% on the good ones and so on... why not have more 90%? you have to understand that this more then just % of success but what the outcomes of getting higher then 60% are...on the current system u said the is a 40% chance of getting 80% or 100% but there are only TWO possible outcome either if u succeed u get 80% or 100%...now on a random system of 1-100 there is also a 40% chance of getting higher then 60% however there "39" possible outcomes if you succeed. so if you succeed you can get a 61% 62% 63% 71% ect. up to 39 possible outcomes so it would extremely difficult to get any % higher then 80... ur random system would also give 59 possible outcomes of getting less then 60% compare to 3 (0% 22% 41% i believe)so yeah, you might use 200 stones and all the % u get are less then highest lowest >>22%...u think it would be fun to use about 40 stones to get %'s such as 1% 5% 7% 19% on whites??? my point>>>>>Random system of 1-100 would be a much greater disadvantage to you. and how ending up with 1% is worse than 0% ? Right now you get 0% or fail most of the time. come on getting 1 to 100 would make weapons more random and uniques, and even if it would be really rare we could get 90%+
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:46 am |
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o ... m ... g i just wet my pants 
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:56 am |
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Nice! 85 Harp and then you were lucky enough to drop/buy sun harp Hope to see the stats from your 85 on your sun soon!
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:00 am |
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huejas wrote: Don't you hate it when you prepare millions of stones to fix whites, and then yu end up fixing them after 1 stone? ...well i love it  For my future bard that im farming(200k sp so far) .....*is scared for blues* EDIT: My New Baby  now alchemy time  pavel  I spy with my little eye..
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:06 am |
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:38 am |
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Mousetrap wrote: huejas wrote: Don't you hate it when you prepare millions of stones to fix whites, and then yu end up fixing them after 1 stone? ...well i love it  For my future bard that im farming(200k sp so far) .....*is scared for blues* EDIT: My New Baby  now alchemy time  pavel  I spy with my little eye.. lol hush no need for that =] nice harps ^^
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:16 am |
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Whos a idiot? Argonaut is!
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:19 am |
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TeamLosi wrote: Whos a idiot? Argonaut is!  lol
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:34 am |
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huejas wrote: guess bye-bye for 7 days....not like it matters anyways but i use it for delvling as yu see the "RIP"  cant believe i didnt spot that thought  You can always edit the image, and say it was your friend who sent you that pic. That seems to work for some people.  *waves*
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:38 am |
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Argonaut wrote: What good eyes you have! I never would have noticed that lol 
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:40 am |
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Argonaut wrote: huejas wrote: guess bye-bye for 7 days....not like it matters anyways but i use it for delvling as yu see the "RIP"  cant believe i didnt spot that thought  You can always edit the image, and say it was your friend who sent you that pic. That seems to work for some people.  *waves* idc i will not make excuses like every ignorant person on this forum
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:40 am |
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Messiah wrote: Argonaut wrote: What good eyes you have! I never would have noticed that lol   20-20 vision?
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy =).....My New Baby Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:30 am |
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huejas is 7 days banned now.
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