Pulling out a shield while knocked down.

Gimpdog · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 174 **Location:**

i use it all the time. its called skill. Most bladers are amazed when i block their kd but afterwards say it is a good tactic.

4-n-zics · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 625 **Location:** Texas

I think it is unfair that bicheon spams KD. How about Bicheon stop using/spamming KB and we will stop pulling out a shield when we get KDed.

Messiah · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 397 **Location:** Around

4-n-zics wrote:

I think it is unfair that bicheon spams KD. How about Bicheon stop using/spamming KB and we will stop pulling out a shield when we get KDed.

lol if they gave up on kd's im pretty sure bladers wouldn't kill shit.

Phaidra · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1142 **Location:** Not here

Makes absolute sense to use one, I'm not going to sit there with bleed and division on and take 4 stabs. A Shield is needed, if it wasn't It'd be equipable for only shield users.

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

Ahahaha, Fly is a noob. :wink:

You can't put a shield in a pack, it's too big rofl

<<Stop bringing that up in Every topic>> ~Baro

reported ur post for offtopic flaming.

and yes you put small shields in packs. large shields go on your back when your not useing it. a glavier cant take a shield off his back while being knocked down ON his back. its not realistic at all.

Messiah · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 397 **Location:** Around

Fly wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

Ahahaha, Fly is a noob. :wink:

You can't put a shield in a pack, it's too big rofl

<<Stop bringing that up in Every topic>> ~Baro

reported ur post for offtopic flaming.

and yes you put small shields in packs. large shields go on your back when your not useing it. a glavier cant take a shield off his back while being knocked down ON his back. its not realistic at all.

<<Take your Vendetta to PMs>>~ Baro

Too bad.. its a GAME.. who the f**k cares if its realistic or not.. They wouldn't allow it if its unfair.. But then again it is Joymax. Could go either way on them making things in game fair.

PocketSunshine · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 386 **Location:** Aion

I think it's a fair strategy. I can't believe someone is actually complaining about this. :roll:

Thomas42 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:24 am

OTG wrote:

The way they should do it is simple. If you are chinese and do not have at least 1 level mastery within the bicheon line, you shouldn't be able to switch to a shield.

Erm... same for euro?

*runs from flamers*

ieatpasta · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 258 **Location:** silkroad

Blurred wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

In real life, you can use your shield to block the attack when you fall. So there is no reason you can't. Blader has bleed+impotent+divion+fear+dull+... it's very fair

In real life their is no PURE INT nukers with a +10 sun sword. In real life their is no wizards that can teleport or go invisible.

THIS IS SILKROAD not real life. >.>

SILKROAD IS LIFE

Veigue · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 13 **Location:** Test

OTG wrote:

The way they should do it is simple. If you are chinese and do not have at least 1 level mastery within the bicheon line, you shouldn't be able to switch to a shield.

Phaidra · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1142 **Location:** Not here

Veigue wrote:

OTG wrote:

The way they should do it is simple. If you are chinese and do not have at least 1 level mastery within the bicheon line, you shouldn't be able to switch to a shield.

Disagree, the 4 stabs would be overkill.

JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

Veigue wrote:

OTG wrote:

The way they should do it is simple. If you are chinese and do not have at least 1 level mastery within the bicheon line, you shouldn't be able to switch to a shield.

I think that is a good idea, since Bicheon mastery focus's on the use of 1h weapons AND shields, how ever they would need to increase the chances of KB on Heuksal's ghost spear then to even it out imo.

Qosta420 · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 434 **Location:**

Interpol wrote:

Qosta420 wrote:

of course its a tactic. but it pretty much weakens KD to the point where it cant even compare to the comprable skills of stun and kb that other builds have. so it devaluates any build that consistantly uses a shield.

Knockdown from a blader has a higher success rate compared to a stun execution from a glaivier. While you are upset a knockdowned character is blocking some of your stabs (shield switch), you are actively blocking all of their attacks with your ever equipped shield. Just for kicks, as a blader you could try pvping without a shield.

i wasnt aware of the difference in probability between KD and stun and such. never mind its a fair tactic apparently. you convinced me.

brentonsbbe359 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:42 am

Life isn't fair.

magisuns · **Posted:** Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:02 am

oh i'm sry is this another complaint about another one of the games typical "flaws" as ppl can it? this is just annoying as the snow shield and ice imbue rants. its part of the game, live with it

borat2 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:13 am

The fact you can switch to a shield in any situation should not be considered as "unfair", but the skills that need a shield or weapon should get fixed so they disappear when someone removes his shield/weapon.

Blyth · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 1025 **Location:**

ieatpasta wrote:

SILKROAD IS LIFE

Sadly for some people it seems to be, especially in my server, i won't mention names though.

Devilman · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 531 **Location:**

Fist fights are the only real fair way to settle your problems.

Zero_Doom · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 1572 **Location:**

Messiah wrote:

4-n-zics wrote:

I think it is unfair that bicheon spams KD. How about Bicheon stop using/spamming KB and we will stop pulling out a shield when we get KDed.

lol if they gave up on kd's im pretty sure bladers wouldn't kill shit.

I have to disagree. When I played my blader on Troy, 90% of the population was not ice resistant. Ice + combos = death. No need for kd's, they have a chance for huge damage with crits, but ultimately combos are cooler. xP

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

Qosta420 wrote:

As a blader I think it is a completly unfair for somone to be able to pull out a shield while knocked down. Its realy unfair to the bicheon class. I dont have problem with dual weaponing or anything else for that matter I just personaly think its unfair. I mean what can a blader / swordsman do to compensate when he gets Knocked back or Stunned to even out this imballance? nothing. yeah so its unfair. If your a true legit player you wont use this unfair tactic.

Opinions?

fight without ur shield, and pull it only if u get knocked down. now its fair.

UniQ · **Posted:** Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:35 pm

what about warrior/cleric, they can have bless spel plus their own spells for 45 second, at lvl70 or so, they get a total of 2000+ phy and mag defense (dunno about 90)... yeah thats fair...
there are A LOT of things on sro which arent fair, but i hope all classes will be in harmony once we've got 150 cap with 150 skills (after 10 years^^)

so dont complain about the stupid shield thing, you can keep KDing an opponent forever and all they can do is pulling out a shield^^

dutchleader · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 167 **Location:**

Its fair because u have passives that make having a shield out more efficient. U can also attack while having a shield out.

Maybe ur not a pure int s/s but when u are. U also have an advantage in heaving a spear to switch to. Debaf ur target with chains then switch to spear and do a nuke for massive dmg.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

selenne wrote:

Qosta420 wrote:

As a blader I think it is a completly unfair for somone to be able to pull out a shield while knocked down. Its realy unfair to the bicheon class. I dont have problem with dual weaponing or anything else for that matter I just personaly think its unfair. I mean what can a blader / swordsman do to compensate when he gets Knocked back or Stunned to even out this imballance? nothing. yeah so its unfair. If your a true legit player you wont use this unfair tactic.

Opinions?

fight without ur shield, and pull it only if u get knocked down. now its fair.

Only double click with your build since your damage is lower than most builds. Then it's fair.

Qosta420 · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 434 **Location:**

Devilman wrote:

Fist fights are the only real fair way to settle your problems.

dude you forgot about dance offs xD

SKarFace · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 90 **Location:**

its all about skill

Amalie · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 390 **Location:**

There could be a cooldown timer on wepon/shield swapping like 30 seconds or something. would make killing those 2 handed wepons str builds soooo easy to kill lol.

As for fairness I always pvp as fair as possible, if a euro uses vigors..damm farking right my chinese uses vigors to. Not my problem there auto pot timer sucks.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

asusi wrote:

there is something worst
xbow can knock you down and still shoot you
how fair is that ??

+1, since its not close combat, that should be the debate

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

its all about lag. try to keep switchin at olympus while tons of turks are spammin and turnin bot on at pvp area. I WONT WORK, BRO.

JcNieto · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 131 **Location:**

I hate Farking people that hate when other people use tactics in pvp just grow up and stop bitching about yo shit if you hate it quit Farking silkroad ass!

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

ieatpasta wrote:

Blurred wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

In real life, you can use your shield to block the attack when you fall. So there is no reason you can't. Blader has bleed+impotent+divion+fear+dull+... it's very fair

In real life their is no PURE INT nukers with a +10 sun sword. In real life their is no wizards that can teleport or go invisible.

THIS IS SILKROAD not real life. >.>

SILKROAD IS LIFE

holy shit

I dont see anything wrong with switching to shield when knocked down, or when the enemy is about to do a very high hitting attack (ie dare devil). would u rather sit there hoping u wont die or do something and try to block/get hit lesser? >.>

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