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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:20 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:32 pm 
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Eh... You morons don't see that the point of this exploit isn't to earn a measly amount of a gold but rather to earn easy thief exp right?

no they dont i gues.. (well yea, thats the point if u still didnt realise this yet..!)

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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SirSengir wrote:
Eh... You morons don't see that the point of this exploit isn't to earn a measly amount of a gold but rather to earn easy thief exp right?

no they dont i gues.. (well yea, thats the point if u still didnt realise this yet..!)



ppl can read...u are the one that cant, gaining job exp like this is just pathetic.


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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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lol this will only work on Troy anyways cause of the taxes at -20%

So many thief's are trying it now hehee


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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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lol this will only work on Troy anyways cause of the taxes at -20%

So many thief's are trying it now hehee



it will work on all servers..just a matter of gold u have...although i dont get whats the point of dropping 20% on taxes just to get some exp up that does absolutely nothing atm...


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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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Setting the -20% tax is not just for this thief exploit lol actually well before this, the taxes on Troy have been -20 for a long time.

Since there is no tax money there is no fighting over what to do with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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AnacondAX wrote:
Setting the -20% tax is not just for this thief exploit lol actually well before this, the taxes on Troy have been -20 for a long time.

Since there is no tax money there is no fighting over what to do with it.


And best of all, it actually makes MORE money then the fort does if you really thing about it. Sell your drops in Jangan with a 20% profit. I've made a good 10m extra gold just because I started npcing there. If you split up 500m some gold throughout the union, you don't even see a single gold piece.

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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lol this will only work on Troy anyways cause of the taxes at -20%

So many thief's are trying it now hehee



it will work on all servers..just a matter of gold u have...although i dont get whats the point of dropping 20% on taxes just to get some exp up that does absolutely nothing atm...

Traders become more active, thieving becomes more interesting, Arken union stays entertained. Unlike you, we like a lively server. =]

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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Bop wrote:
ahmedsabry wrote:
SirSengir wrote:
Eh... You morons don't see that the point of this exploit isn't to earn a measly amount of a gold but rather to earn easy thief exp right?

no they dont i gues.. (well yea, thats the point if u still didnt realise this yet..!)



ppl can read...u are the one that cant, gaining job exp like this is just pathetic.

have u even looked at the previous posts? we are not saying its "ultra cool" to get thief exp with a bug.. we're just saying its there.

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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Yeah jagex did kinda mees up on this, so makes thieving the easiest thing to work on.


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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:56 pm 
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So the total was about 10.5m at the most. The thief weekly income I got back was 12.1m for a total gained of 1.6m.


I stalled some elements overnight while I slept last night and gained just over 4m. Those elements come from alchemy items I just happen to pick up during my normal grind, free. Much less effort, and time, than your thief exploit, plus it's not exploiting the game, which is against the TOS isn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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So the total was about 10.5m at the most. The thief weekly income I got back was 12.1m for a total gained of 1.6m.


I stalled some elements overnight while I slept last night and gained just over 4m. Those elements come from alchemy items I just happen to pick up during my normal grind, free. Much less effort, and time, than your thief exploit, plus it's not exploiting the game, which is against the TOS isn't it?


wow, you either didn't read the previous post or you completely miss the point. is NOT ABOUT GAINING GOLD :!: :banghead:
NPC 1 drop would give u more gold...

the point is about abusing the ranking system in order to easily gained experience points and probably be rank 7 thief in no time

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:13 pm 
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AnacondAX wrote:
lol it only took about an hour each day. If ya set it up right.

This was just to show that the job system is screwed. It was not about making gold really.


This doesn't show the job system is screwed. All it shows is that if you cheat (exploit the game by getting your thief into town with a transport) you can take advantage of buying/selling loot at a discounted rate.

This wouldn't be possible if you didn't cheat by going into town with your ox in the first place.

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Eh... You morons don't see that the point of this exploit isn't to earn a measly amount of a gold but rather to earn easy thief exp right?


Couldn't that same exp be earned outside of town? Have trader come outside, drop loot, you take it to thief town to sell. I think you'd get the same exp either way, just possibly slightly less gold (I know, not the point) since taxes aren't involved.

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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PR0METHEUS wrote:
SirSengir wrote:
Eh... You morons don't see that the point of this exploit isn't to earn a measly amount of a gold but rather to earn easy thief exp right?


Couldn't that same exp be earned outside of town? Have trader come outside, drop loot, you take it to thief town to sell. I think you'd get the same exp either way, just possibly slightly less gold (I know, not the point) since taxes aren't involved.


Yes, you'd get the same exp and the same amount of money [except that you'll waste more on resources due to spawns.] Only problem is that it's slow since you have to use bandit scrolls, risky since hunters can kill you/other thieves jack your shit, and that you have to deal with a 5 star's spawns every time. Taxes would be involved since the only time the taxes are taken into consideration is when the trader buys the goods in Jangan.

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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another moron that will run around saying to everyone he's an awesome thief at lvl 6 yet he can't even probably rob a trade. Earn your exp the hard way. I have a lvl 4 96% and a lvl 5 28% and I have earned all my exp through stealing trades, not sitting and having a friend dump goods for me. Idiots like you are never welcome in a good thief party as we know you are a wannabe


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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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lol I already know that in sparta whoever has the bandit den will set it to +20% tax then no one will trade there since they might actually end up losing money if if they finish their trade sometimes :(

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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SirSengir wrote:
PR0METHEUS wrote:
SirSengir wrote:
Eh... You morons don't see that the point of this exploit isn't to earn a measly amount of a gold but rather to earn easy thief exp right?


Couldn't that same exp be earned outside of town? Have trader come outside, drop loot, you take it to thief town to sell. I think you'd get the same exp either way, just possibly slightly less gold (I know, not the point) since taxes aren't involved.


Yes, you'd get the same exp and the same amount of money [except that you'll waste more on resources due to spawns.] Only problem is that it's slow since you have to use bandit scrolls, risky since hunters can kill you/other thieves jack your shit, and that you have to deal with a 5 star's spawns every time. Taxes would be involved since the only time the taxes are taken into consideration is when the trader buys the goods in Jangan.


+1
I don't think 1 thief can handle a 5* alone as well

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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another moron that will run around saying to everyone he's an awesome thief at lvl 6 yet he can't even probably rob a trade. Earn your exp the hard way. I have a lvl 4 96% and a lvl 5 28% and I have earned all my exp through stealing trades, not sitting and having a friend dump goods for me. Idiots like you are never welcome in a good thief party as we know you are a wannabe



As I have said before I got to lvl 5 thief at 37% legit. Ask Ragnarok he knows how long I have thiefed for on Troy.

I am just bored and don't care for this game anymore. Going to retire soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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i know this isnt about gold...but if some of you are wondering how to make some gold...go to roc or takla and make some bots murder status and pick up their drops...im like rich now and thats all i have been doing...

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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I don't think 1 thief can handle a 5* alone as well


at level 81, i can pretty easely handle my own 5* spawn, though... the ox cant >.<
at level 90 a 5* owns your ox in like 10 seconds :P

and yea, i just made 20m last ... 30 mins or so, stalling some alchemy stuff. ppl like Drunkens aint poor enough to do it for the gold XD
just getting some free thief exp :)

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i know this isnt about gold...but if some of you are wondering how to make some gold...go to roc or takla and make some bots murder status and pick up their drops...im like rich now and thats all i have been doing...


how do u give them murder status?

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 Post subject: Re: Thief Bug Free Exp and Gold
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Bop wrote:
AnacondAX wrote:
lol this will only work on Troy anyways cause of the taxes at -20%

So many thief's are trying it now hehee



it will work on all servers..just a matter of gold u have...although i dont get whats the point of dropping 20% on taxes just to get some exp up that does absolutely nothing atm...

Traders become more active, thieving becomes more interesting, Arken union stays entertained. Unlike you, we like a lively server. =]


yea when half are afk stalling in town and the other outside afk grinding...lively indeed :roll:


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I don't think 1 thief can handle a 5* alone as well


at level 81, i can pretty easely handle my own 5* spawn, though... the ox cant >.<
at level 90 a 5* owns your ox in like 10 seconds :P

and yea, i just made 20m last ... 30 mins or so, stalling some alchemy stuff. ppl like Drunkens aint poor enough to do it for the gold XD
just getting some free thief exp :)



i dont think so...i nvr seen anyone "solo" a 5* lil...i dont think u can solo npc thieves that are 89.90..w/o some sort of outside help...healing or something.


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xKingpinx wrote:
i know this isnt about gold...but if some of you are wondering how to make some gold...go to roc or takla and make some bots murder status and pick up their drops...im like rich now and thats all i have been doing...


how do u give them murder status?



ur a damn high lvl nup


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Earn your exp the hard way.

+1

A bot hunter on venus leveled like 20 noobs to lvl 20 and he load them all up with 1* and do jg -> bandit den trades all day with 20 clientless noobs following him.

The funniest part is that the #1 hunter is a legit :)

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Bop wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
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i know this isnt about gold...but if some of you are wondering how to make some gold...go to roc or takla and make some bots murder status and pick up their drops...im like rich now and thats all i have been doing...


how do u give them murder status?



ur a damn high lvl nup


ty for your kindness :)

edit: nvm I found out they use a horse I thought that didn't work anymore

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crust wrote:
Earn your exp the hard way.

+1

A bot hunter on venus leveled like 20 noobs to lvl 20 and he load them all up with 1* and do jg -> bandit den trades all day with 20 clientless noobs following him.

The funniest part is that the #1 hunter is a legit :)



lmao...f-ing retards...nothing much to be expected though, from bots


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I don't think 1 thief can handle a 5* alone as well


at level 81, i can pretty easely handle my own 5* spawn, though... the ox cant >.<
at level 90 a 5* owns your ox in like 10 seconds :P

and yea, i just made 20m last ... 30 mins or so, stalling some alchemy stuff. ppl like Drunkens aint poor enough to do it for the gold XD
just getting some free thief exp :)


Isn't an ox only lvl 60? I know you can get one once you turn lvl 60. Maybe it's about time Joymax created a higher level trade transport available at the stables. I guess there's always elephants and behemoths, if you have the fortress, but how do they compare versus the ox? (I've only ever had as high as the lvl 45 horse).

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LillDev!l wrote:
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I don't think 1 thief can handle a 5* alone as well


at level 81, i can pretty easely handle my own 5* spawn, though... the ox cant >.<
at level 90 a 5* owns your ox in like 10 seconds :P

and yea, i just made 20m last ... 30 mins or so, stalling some alchemy stuff. ppl like Drunkens aint poor enough to do it for the gold XD
just getting some free thief exp :)


Isn't an ox only lvl 60? I know you can get one once you turn lvl 60. Maybe it's about time Joymax created a higher level trade transport available at the stables. I guess there's always elephants and behemoths, if you have the fortress, but how do they compare versus the ox? (I've only ever had as high as the lvl 45 horse).



hp of item mall transports are adjusted according to your lvl..an ox can barely (if) survive a 5* spawn with 90 npc's and the behemoth has about 140k hp or some shet...it goes down in a few nukes by wiz/nukers...funny when one day on troy...when we were trading and they came in with a behemoth..fail :roll:


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well, i dint check if it was a 5* .. it was a max 5* for my trader friend so >.<..
spawn was pretty big, but they dint kill me, coz AND the ox tanks some while im spamming its pots, and i can take enough (though euro npcs would be a pain in the ass)
its also different at level 81 then it is at level 90 i guess :)
if you play on troy, you can come watch i dont care xD aint making stuff up :P

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