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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:56 pm 
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right nice vid

Why prem+ ? u are fufa + 99,9% lol is it just for Stats ?

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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MOST people get into this game for the same reason like most every player. Rush to 90 and see how they do in PVP. Yes, I know pvp doesnt take much IQ to win when all you do is spam 1234 etc. You can have the best full sun set gears and sun weapon and still nobody will be able to kill you in pvp. WHoever that is, is one boring dude and nobody will pvp him because he just cant be kill. It's a lonely game when you are the strongest. So why not have fun, blend in with people so they know that they have little chance opening to kill you. Not fun playing God. lol

Does it matter about the vigor? The vigor have nothing to do with it. Joymax put vigor there for a reason. So you can use it. If that the case, then blader shouldn't fight with shield on. If you have the OPTION to use it, then why not use it? I got HP pot 500 increase and trigger scrolll. But dont forgot I'm fighting a EURO, not just any EURO, a SUN weapon euro. You already know euro reputation as dealing the most damage and one or two hits you.

I rather be safe than sorry starting off a blader than a glavie.

I'm not proud of winning in pvp. More like making you guys entertain so you can have something to talk about in this forum. lol

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- The warrior is using vigor potions not grains( you can see it on the fact he can`t spam them there is delay of more than 20sec)
- The warrior is not using any other scrolls.
- The warrior not using half of his defensive skills while you are at your maximum (castle shield, scrolls, kinda amazed you did not start your devil suit :roll: )

Not to be rude but why don`t you start your fights as glaive? switch to blade when there is a real danger or as a quick pot saver or to stop him from healing, i think that is probably the reason why you died in the first place you spammed your castle when its not "really needed"

You even said don't bother using blade combo`s, well bleed works even with holy spell another extra reason for him to switch back to cleric so more time for you to be free from attacks.

About the skin/bless part? all he needed is 1 bleed and stun a thing you will have more chance to get while being in bless or skins, he has to switch back to cleric cause he is not using them. the time he is attacking you is minimal but he still managed to kill you with that minimal time imagine him having almost 50seconds of constant attacking.

anyway nice pvp but its not movie worthy cant believe people are even proud of winning such battles.

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Not to be bad or something but i found your video very boring.

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He didn't use skins or bless and he wa using axes alot when he should have been using 2h and he also wasnt using that attack booster that warrior has so he could have raped you.

And as already said you were using vigors and he wasn't...AND he is a euro. :P

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So I watch the video again and I notice, the sound and timing of the video really blends in. I didn't realize it does when I was composing the scenes together.

At 4:18: the booms sound effect from the music goes well with the critical hit.

At 4:30: When she dies, the music slow down, then when the text of Round 2 comes and next scene of fighting, the music goes fast again.

At 5:13: She dies agian, the music again slow down.

At 5:25: Round 3, now the music go fast again for the next fight.

At 6:00 The moment I about to die, the music slow down, the scene slow down, I got the last hit and the music dies out. lol

Wow, you guys shouldn't focus on the pvp too much but focus on the timing of scene and music synchroize in harmony of each other. :D

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So I watch the video again and I notice, the sound and timing of the video really blends in. I didn't realize it does when I was composing the scenes together.

At 4:18: the booms sound effect from the music goes well with the critical hit.

At 4:30: When she dies, the music slow down, then when the text of Round 2 comes and next scene of fighting, the music goes fast again.

At 5:13: She dies agian, the music again slow down.

At 5:25: Round 3, now the music go fast again for the next fight.

At 6:00 The moment I about to die, the music slow down, the scene slow down, I got the last hit and the music dies out. lol

Wow, you guys shouldn't focus on the pvp too much but focus on the timing of scene and music synchroize in harmony of each other. :D

It is a pvp video, why whould I focus on the music ? ;S

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It is a pvp video, why whould I focus on the music ? ;S


You should focus on everything including my cute pet bunny for not being able to keep up with me at :51 seconds in the video due to my Super Saiyan Light speed flying. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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He didn't use skins or bless and he wa using axes alot when he should have been using 2h and he also wasnt using that attack booster that warrior has so he could have raped you.

And as already said you were using vigors and he wasn't...AND he is a euro. :P


Most warriors don't use skins and bless. Bleed and Bind[or dull] > Warcry. He has cleric, vigors are there for a reason, he used vigor potions. I really liked the music. The intro was gay, but that DBZ/DW music was pwnage. Went well with the fight.

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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Lol... "For the power of the Moon, sky and stars."?
"In search of the greatest challenge" ...
Oh lord, just teleport your ass to DW and start killing
Lol, grow up, who you kidding? Cut the drama / emo shit in it?


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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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Not bad, that was the best vigor spamming I hav ever seen lol, forgot to mention u hav a sun+7 glavie though. The warrior kinda sucked though and u should be so much better with the equips u hav.

OT: Sooooooo much double posting and even a triple post in this thread lol.

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To be honest you "don't" need bichion if you have a sun glavie...just switch to that shield every time you see DD coming,or kd (even while stun still possible) then again you don't have a protector set like I do..from what I see you still get hit pretty hard on garms....about bless/skins...that blader "can" use snow shield xlarge mp and odd are that he will not die tills its over as well.

When I pvp with my warrior its very rare that I would use bless/skins....just maintain orbit...not that hard vs bladers/some nukers/other warriors...but vs hybrid spear nukers/glaviers i find it harder cuz of there freaking stun...but my set is shitty +4 light armor..lacking some blues.

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Woohoo wrote:
So I watch the video again and I notice, the sound and timing of the video really blends in. I didn't realize it does when I was composing the scenes together.

At 4:18: the booms sound effect from the music goes well with the critical hit.

At 4:30: When she dies, the music slow down, then when the text of Round 2 comes and next scene of fighting, the music goes fast again.

At 5:13: She dies agian, the music again slow down.

At 5:25: Round 3, now the music go fast again for the next fight.

At 6:00 The moment I about to die, the music slow down, the scene slow down, I got the last hit and the music dies out. lol

Wow, you guys shouldn't focus on the pvp too much but focus on the timing of scene and music synchroize in harmony of each other. :D


lol i just muted it at 0:03

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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I still lol at the fact that you guys call 1 vigor every 10-20 seconds spamming. :roll: Actually, I think I'll count the number of vigors he used. IMO, spamming = using every 3 seconds.

    round
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  2. 2
  3. 3
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    1. 6
    2. 2
    3. 2
    4. 5
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      1. 2 minutes 55 seconds
      2. 50 seconds
      3. 40 seconds
      4. 1 minute 50 seconds

The numbers don't lie.

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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tbh, the only point i once considered making/having a dual wield blade/glaive (made some in gngwc prelims) was so i can get the statuses & near invincibility from blade and then switch to glaive for some massive punishment...

but seems u wasted a total of 90 masteries & a ton of sp on blade just for the heck of it >.>, since ur blade isn't even sun, ur barely scratching his garms w/ kd/stabs...shoulda just spam flying stone/lightning chain for statuses then go to ur sun glaive to dish out dmg...but instead u just kd/stab most of the time, then just switched to the eye candy cuz u got bored of ur kd/stab dmg


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He didn't use skins or bless and he wa using axes alot when he should have been using 2h and he also wasnt using that attack booster that warrior has so he could have raped you.

And as already said you were using vigors and he wasn't...AND he is a euro. :P

Vigors are part of the game. Anyone who complains about them are lame considering everyone uses them these days just as they use hp pots. If your going to complain about vigors you might as well complain about hp pots too.
Both of them used vigors by the way.

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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Vigors are for euro. I would never use them in fair pvp on my china. And never saw high lvl use them at pvp in my server, thats some kind of rule. Its like using bless in pvp on my rogue, so stupid. No one, I mean no one can kill me 1 vs 1 with bless, so whats the point??? Makes you invincible? I can cast spell, then healing orbit and switch to daggers with DD and for about 5-10 sec you are dead, any china.

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Why not look at the positives in the video instead of picking on things like "omgz he use vigors like its candyz!"

I must applaud that he does not use macros!!!! I hate to watch a video of some pvp where their skill bar is all lit up like its new years eve.

I mean you can take a lot away from him in the video, that is easy to do with any video. But you cannot take away;
-no macro use
-quite unique build(for 90 cap)
-beats 2hs sun cleric !

every1 else is a negative nancy! =P

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
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In my opinion, if the warrior knew how to play, he would beat you fairly easy.
Also, you had prem plus, trigger scroll and hp scroll, and all he had was a premium.

Nothing to be proud of, beating somebody who doesnt know how to play their build.

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Vigors are for euro. I would never use them in fair pvp on my china. And never saw high lvl use them at pvp in my server, thats some kind of rule. Its like using bless in pvp on my rogue, so stupid. No one, I mean no one can kill me 1 vs 1 with bless, so whats the point??? Makes you invincible? I can cast spell, then healing orbit and switch to daggers with DD and for about 5-10 sec you are dead, any china.

i lol'd

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but seems u wasted a total of 90 masteries & a ton of sp on blade just for the heck of it >.>, since ur blade isn't even sun, ur barely scratching his garms w/ kd/stabs...shoulda just spam flying stone/lightning chain for statuses then go to ur sun glaive to dish out dmg...but instead u just kd/stab most of the time, then just switched to the eye candy cuz u got bored of ur kd/stab dmg

the bolded part wouldnt have worked since i think the warrior was using holy spell.

Anyways nice vid, i pretty much skipped through the whole intro =p

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The euro user didnt knew how to play hes char well.

+1

bind is useless.
should have done dull, wait for pill dull kd triple swing.


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or put some skins and bless on and own his ass


Eff off. Warclerics shouldn't need bless OR skin on chinese.

That guy was gimped. A smart warrior should never, ever, ever, ever, ever lose to a chinese. NEVER EVER. Especially one in garments.

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lol so a 2h sun makes a warrior good, rofl, nice video edit, boring pvp, that warrior didnt use any defense buff and was on robes, i saw warrriors owning PURE STR BLADERS with just a +5 2h haha i must say to that warrior that he should sell his char and try another build, funny part is oh i can use my 1234 combo, then i put a +9 shield and kd, zzzz again nice video edit but pvp is sooo boring (and warrior should pvp more lol)

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Thanx for the comments.

Every build has his advantage and disadvantage. With his build, if he wanted to stay alive and not able to kill, he can just bless, then uses skin defense. I can just stay blader and KD all day. But then, what does that do any good? YOu wanted to kill and he wanted to kill. He knows that if he uses skin defense and bless, i would stay blader. It will be one boring fight where nobody can kill each other.

I dont stay blader long, blader is only to get my HP back to full(status free) so I can switch back to glavie and go for the kill.

There bound to be good comments and bad comments, I expected it and not everybody will be happy. That is why I put out the video in the first place. Cant satisfy everyone.

Hey, I cant just put a straight up PVP video, it would be the same like many thousand of videos that are like that. I emphasize and add some BS story to be interesting and unique to the video. lol

I already made a thread before "is using vigor consider cheating" and the reason he doesnt use vigor that much is because he spent most of his time healing. What healing skill do I have? lol



its a good video but are u mentally challenged?
you said if he wanted to kill you, he shouldnt use skin/bless, those take 1 sec to cast, and for bless he can switch back to 2h sword and keep dpsing, therefore saving himself, and last longer then with the 2h sword get crits and kill you
this is not the same as if u stayed blader and kept kding, and as a result of that u will never kill him cuz ur dps is shit

its more like, he went easy on you and decided not to use skin/bless. and he did spend a lot of time healing, that = wanting kill? lol

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Vigors are for euro. I would never use them in fair pvp on my china. And never saw high lvl use them at pvp in my server, thats some kind of rule. Its like using bless in pvp on my rogue, so stupid. No one, I mean no one can kill me 1 vs 1 with bless, so whats the point??? Makes you invincible? I can cast spell, then healing orbit and switch to daggers with DD and for about 5-10 sec you are dead, any china.

u're full of vigor crap :P ....what's with your real pvp thingy... you cant categorize as real/fair or fake/unfair pvps... if u insist on a very fair pvp, lets make it a standard +5 weapon, +5 gears, with or without prem...& maybe if i dont hv healing skill, you better not used it as well(when you have 1)...
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dont give us that "vigor is only for euro" ... it's ..... lame..

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Vigors are for euro. I would never use them in fair pvp on my china. And never saw high lvl use them at pvp in my server, thats some kind of rule. Its like using bless in pvp on my rogue, so stupid. No one, I mean no one can kill me 1 vs 1 with bless, so whats the point??? Makes you invincible? I can cast spell, then healing orbit and switch to daggers with DD and for about 5-10 sec you are dead, any china.


maybe ur build is "unique" but usually a rogue can't stay alive over there bless/orbit if using DD....and rogues don't kill in a 10 sec..unless they crit with Prick while using DD...I seen rogue sun Daggers +7 does 22k on a glavier with +5 garm set with Prick DD...if stun is over if not vigors does the job....if only there was a way to pvp with players on diff server....

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Vigors are for euro. I would never use them in fair pvp on my china. And never saw high lvl use them at pvp in my server, thats some kind of rule. Its like using bless in pvp on my rogue, so stupid. No one, I mean no one can kill me 1 vs 1 with bless, so whats the point??? Makes you invincible? I can cast spell, then healing orbit and switch to daggers with DD and for about 5-10 sec you are dead, any china.


maybe ur build is "unique" but usually a rogue can't stay alive over there bless/orbit if using DD....and rogues don't kill in a 10 sec..unless they crit with Prick while using DD...I seen rogue sun Daggers +7 does 22k on a glavier with +5 garm set with Prick DD...if stun is over if not vigors does the job....if only there was a way to pvp with players on diff server....

My build isnt unique or anything, just my set is perfect with evry white stats higher than 41% and STR INT maxed and mostly +6. And also I have sun xbow, altough I cant remember last time I killed someone in pvp whit it, daggers are for finishing.

Hmm 22k with sun, my average prick is from 15-22k depends of build and set of your oponnent.

There is no sun daggers on Mercury so I didnt saw it in pvp, but I use to hit with my 85+8 daggers with 0 phty% 90lvl FF glavier in almost full sun prot set +6 (he didnt have shoulder only) I crt on him 32k
Glavier in garment crt with prick 42k, with mortal wounds last hit crt 17k. So I dont know are the rogues on your server are unfarmed or noobs with shity set and weapon.
My daggers are 21 crt so I do crt very often, there is few people that can survive prick and after that mortal wounds, at least 1 crt will be, thats 100% sure.
And one more thing, you dont have to be full sun to be invincible, I use to pvp with one guy, glavier with mixed prot/armor set and cold lvl 90. Pff he is so hard to kill, only crt with prick and after mortals kill him. Altough he probavly have hard time with INT builds.

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but seems u wasted a total of 90 masteries & a ton of sp on blade just for the heck of it >.>, since ur blade isn't even sun, ur barely scratching his garms w/ kd/stabs...shoulda just spam flying stone/lightning chain for statuses then go to ur sun glaive to dish out dmg...but instead u just kd/stab most of the time, then just switched to the eye candy cuz u got bored of ur kd/stab dmg

the bolded part wouldnt have worked since i think the warrior was using holy spell.

Anyways nice vid, i pretty much skipped through the whole intro =p


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In my opinion, if the warrior knew how to play, he would beat you fairly easy.
Also, you had prem plus, trigger scroll and hp scroll, and all he had was a premium.

Nothing to be proud of, beating somebody who doesnt know how to play their build.

+ to anyone else who said the warrior dont know how to pvp etc.

you judge me on one pvp i did at like 4:30am, im not exactly going to be at my best when im tired.

You say i dont know how to play my char? thats just it, its my char i can play it how i like, just cos every other warrior/cleric does the same combo over and over to win doesnt mean i have to do i?

i play for fun, i like to use all my differnt skills when i cape fight even if i know they are useless just for some variety, when it matters though like jobbing , i know what i have to do to kill somone.

Anyway nice video Woohoo, it was fun , i never pvpd a dual weapon chinese before :)


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 Post subject: Re: Vs Sun Warrior/Cleric (vid)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:55 pm 
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chen, pvp Priscilla and frap it/upload it/post it.

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