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 Post subject: Re: Show off your new weapon =)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:47 pm 
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New weapon=slightly faster killing. It's not like it is going to net you x2 the XP or x2 the kills. You still walk the same speed etc.

Also, say that there are 1000 people on your server that want 90 weapons.

Day 1: 50ish are dropped
Day 2: 100 are dropped. Bots are all updated, clients updated etc.
Day 3: another 100
Day 4: 100
Day 5: 100

So at day one you have 50 weapons for 1k people.
At day five you have 450 weapons for 1k people.
That is a 900% increase. It won't take long for 1st tear items to stack up, and I plan on sticking with my 85 for a bit anyhow.

That said, the 10dg bow looks dumb.


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90+4 is +2 higher than 85.
85 will have a higher attack %, higher crit, more str, higher attack rating, higher reinforce.

Reinforce is important. The damage is higher. Wait one week, and that 100m will be ~50m. Wait a month, and it will be even less. I can't afford to throw away 50m to have slightly higher attack for a few days.


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New weapon=slightly faster killing. It's not like it is going to net you x2 the XP or x2 the kills. You still walk the same speed etc.

Also, say that there are 1000 people on your server that want 90 weapons.

Day 1: 50ish are dropped
Day 2: 100 are dropped. Bots are all updated, clients updated etc.
Day 3: another 100
Day 4: 100
Day 5: 100

So at day one you have 50 weapons for 1k people.
At day five you have 450 weapons for 1k people.
That is a 900% increase. It won't take long for 1st tear items to stack up, and I plan on sticking with my 85 for a bit anyhow.

That said, the 10dg bow looks dumb.


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90+4 is +2 higher than 85.
85 will have a higher attack %, higher crit, more str, higher attack rating, higher reinforce.

Reinforce is important. The damage is higher. Wait one week, and that 100m will be ~50m. Wait a month, and it will be even less. I can't afford to throw away 50m to have slightly higher attack for a few days.


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For the sake of the comparison, I put all stats at 61% since that's a reasonable number and it makes the comparisons easier.

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 Post subject: Re: Show off your new weapon =)
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Which mobs do drop 90 lvl weapons and what lvl are they ?

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That said, the 10dg bow looks dumb.

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Which mobs do drop 90 lvl weapons and what lvl are they ?


I'd guess mobs lvl 90-93

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anyone used any non-0% stones lately? did they fix alchemy? lol

also, any final tier drops yet? im sure some ppl have been grinding lvl 98+ mobs lol


Spank got a 98 spear. Crit 10.

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90+4 is +2 higher than 85.
85 will have a higher attack %, higher crit, more str, higher attack rating, higher reinforce.

Reinforce is important. The damage is higher. Wait one week, and that 100m will be ~50m. Wait a month, and it will be even less. I can't afford to throw away 50m to have slightly higher attack for a few days.


Seems like you don't know how reinforce works. Any + to the weapon does NOT affect reinforce, which adds significant damage. You can easily +3 a 90 weapon which will not only have higher physical damage but much higher reinforce. With all the free stones the event is giving away adding blues, even mediocre ones, is not a problem at all. It'll also take you more than 'a few days' to hit 94, and I never mentioned buying the weapon, only stated it does more damage =| For the sake of arguing, I can afford it and I know more than 75% of the level 90's out there can as well.

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bought from a friend for 25mil .. +4ed it and failed +5 then got it back to +4 gonna try +5 later. UPDATED.... +5 now with blues


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bought from a friend for 25mil .. +4ed it and failed +5 then got it back to +4 gonna try +5 later. UPDATED.... +5 now with blues

Gratz, thats one nice looking weapon :love:

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my d10 bow... bought it for 25m only.. but very2x bad stat.. bought str stone 0%assi for 1m and some courage stone.. but the bad thing about this bow is.. spend 60m+ to make it 5. :(

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How come has my 85+7 glaive better stats then your 90+5 bow??

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If 90+5 glavie is like this also, I will stick with my 85+7 lol Because I don't think i can +7 a 90 lvl glaive

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Prices are too crazy.. I thought I was going to be smart and instead of asking to buy a 2H I'd ask for a 1H for wayyy cheaper because there's a lot less 1H warriors.. clever me? two people pm me and won't sell for 40m, screw that. :[ can twohit lvl 94 mobs with my 85+5 anyway.. don't desperately need it


So to add to this, I was grinding in an 8 party.. still had around half my pots left but I had to repair my weapon, so I was like.. sorry guys, brb in 30 mins have to repair :(

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I'll go pimp it in a few hours huhu.. ganna keep my 85+5 and use it when this one breaks though, so I can stay out for around 10 hours instead of 5 :v

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How come has my 85+7 glaive better stats then your 90+5 bow??

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If 90+5 glavie is like this also, I will stick with my 85+7 lol Because I don't think i can +7 a 90 lvl glaive



look at your white % though...
if that bow had the same, or even all at 41% whites, it would be better than yours.

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 Post subject: Re: Show off your new weapon =)
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my d10 bow... bought it for 25m only.. but very2x bad stat.. bought str stone 0%assi for 1m and some courage stone.. but the bad thing about this bow is.. spend 60m+ to make it 5. :(

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How come has my 85+7 glaive better stats then your 90+5 bow??

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If 90+5 glavie is like this also, I will stick with my 85+7 lol Because I don't think i can +7 a 90 lvl glaive


Because your glaive isn't a BOW. Come on level 85+++ and you don't know how the damages work? Not accusing you of anything..except stupidity.

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my d10 bow... bought it for 25m only.. but very2x bad stat.. bought str stone 0%assi for 1m and some courage stone.. but the bad thing about this bow is.. spend 60m+ to make it 5. :(

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How come has my 85+7 glaive better stats then your 90+5 bow??

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If 90+5 glavie is like this also, I will stick with my 85+7 lol Because I don't think i can +7 a 90 lvl glaive


Because your glaive isn't a BOW. Come on level 85+++ and you don't know how the damages work? Not accusing you of anything..except stupidity.


Before accusing me of stupidity read the text bolded for you.. Jerk!

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How come has my 85+7 glaive better stats then your 90+5 bow??

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If 90+5 glavie is like this also, I will stick with my 85+7 lol Because I don't think i can +7 a 90 lvl glaive


Because your glaive isn't a BOW. Come on level 85+++ and you don't know how the damages work? Not accusing you of anything..except stupidity.


Before accusing me of stupidity read the text bolded for you.. Jerk!

lol? every1 knows glave has more phy atk then a bow....(i hope :? )

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Its really to compare bow and glavie :?

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 Post subject: Re: Show off your new weapon =)
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I never seen people go crazy over 1st tier.

In this case 1st tier is closest to your level. 90 cap it was level 80 weapon because everyone was already level 80.

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90+4 is +2 higher than 85.
85 will have a higher attack %, higher crit, more str, higher attack rating, higher reinforce.

Reinforce is important. The damage is higher. Wait one week, and that 100m will be ~50m. Wait a month, and it will be even less. I can't afford to throw away 50m to have slightly higher attack for a few days.


Seems like you don't know how reinforce works. Any + to the weapon does NOT affect reinforce, which adds significant damage. You can easily +3 a 90 weapon which will not only have higher physical damage but much higher reinforce. With all the free stones the event is giving away adding blues, even mediocre ones, is not a problem at all. It'll also take you more than 'a few days' to hit 94, and I never mentioned buying the weapon, only stated it does more damage =| For the sake of arguing, I can afford it and I know more than 75% of the level 90's out there can as well.


Seems like you misunderstood me. When I said the reinforce is higher, I meant as far as percents are concerned. I agree the damage is higher, yet not enough to justify massive spending in my opinion. I am tired and have forgotten what we are arguing about....

Oh, and when I said a few days I was trying to convey that the prices in a few days will be a fraction of what they are now, and before long 10dg will be pretty common, so your attack is just as high as everyone else's.


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lol? every1 knows glave has more phy atk then a bow....(i hope :? )

but it is still ok to nuke with a glavie, right?






jk, i love when i see noobs doing that, or nuking with a bow...

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Cost 80M to buy. 20M to do + and blues
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Cost 80M to buy. 20M to do + and blues
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How much more Mag Reinforce does it have than your 85+5?

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Lvl 90 bow on Venice, crit 10, phy 61% clean 0+..200mil LOL. You guys are lucky i swear..

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Cardinal_Ph wrote:
my d10 bow... bought it for 25m only.. but very2x bad stat.. bought str stone 0%assi for 1m and some courage stone.. but the bad thing about this bow is.. spend 60m+ to make it 5. :(

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How come has my 85+7 glaive better stats then your 90+5 bow??

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If 90+5 glavie is like this also, I will stick with my 85+7 lol Because I don't think i can +7 a 90 lvl glaive



simple answer.. couse your +7 glavie is like 1yr old? :D and my bow is 2day old.. do the math.

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This was made on aege when it was dropped.



who made/owns it?

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Cost 80M to buy. 20M to do + and blues
has 400 more mag then my 85+5 80%mag staff


How much more Mag Reinforce does it have than your 85+5?


Old staff = 41% 357.3%~436.7%

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That said, the 10dg bow looks dumb.

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This was made on aege when it was dropped.



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