Are there any Legits left in this game?

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

Amarisa wrote:

Truie wrote:

there's still a bunch of legits on venus
and everywhere also i guess
most non botting players dont walk around wearing a "legit" badge and insulting everyone else, you know.
some use a loader only
some dont use any 3rd party program, sometimes out of simple ignorance
most importantly, many players see no point in botting.

"legit" is a label, and a war one : it means "you cheaters shouldnt be here and we're so much better than you".
most people who dont bot dont have that stupid attitude.

in the end, "legit" fits to stuck up better than thou bigots more than to anyone else.

besides, the "legit" concept makes little sense in SRO anyway because the "legits" are the ones who have an advantage over the others.
3rd party programs in sro dont give you (like in plenty of other games) overpowered items, super-powerful hacks (god mode, speed mode etc) and so on.
these hacks justify the use of the "legit" label in usual games in order to keep a fair competition among non cheaters.

in sro you dont get any superiority for cheating, except to _grind_ and to counter stealth/invis as far as i know.
how sillier can that be ?

Legits are superior because they do play their build and they do so in real parties. And that's what gives a superior advantage in SRO : euro parties.
So as it's a win win deal for the legits, they shouldnt be proud of it. It's easier to be legit than to be botter, seriously.
You'll level up faster with a bot that's granted, but you wont be able to play your char well except if you are a good hardcore gamer. Whereas if you spend all your gaming time doing parties, you are at least a decent party player and you end up knowing your build.

well said

Not well said...

Good luck little legit pvping against an army of sun-out ppl. You have to work your but off to get enough gold for maybe a 10d sos set, they have an army of gold bots to get themselves full sun items. They have unlimited elixirs to try to make a +9 set. A legit knows how to hand grind and pvp at a lower lvl. A botter will get to 100 ff, than spend the rest of his time pvping until he gets better.

I'm still not sure how Venus managed to keep itself bot-free for so long. Woulda expected botters to just cap out and get sunned and pwn them. Only advantage really of a legit would be euro partying.

That's my opinion for the day.

Amarisa · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4049 **Location:** Magic

Goseki wrote:

Not well said...

Good luck little legit pvping against an army of sun-out ppl. You have to work your but off to get enough gold for maybe a 10d sos set, they have an army of gold bots to get themselves full sun items. They have unlimited elixirs to try to make a +9 set. A legit knows how to hand grind and pvp at a lower lvl. A botter will get to 100 ff, than spend the rest of his time pvping until he gets better.

I'm still not sure how Venus managed to keep itself bot-free for so long. Woulda expected botters to just cap out and get sunned and pwn them. Only advantage really of a legit would be euro partying.

That's my opinion for the day.

then you sir have no idea how to make gold. perhaps the option of buying gold clogged everyones mind?

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Amarisa wrote:

Goseki wrote:

Not well said...

Good luck little legit pvping against an army of sun-out ppl. You have to work your but off to get enough gold for maybe a 10d sos set, they have an army of gold bots to get themselves full sun items. They have unlimited elixirs to try to make a +9 set. A legit knows how to hand grind and pvp at a lower lvl. A botter will get to 100 ff, than spend the rest of his time pvping until he gets better.

I'm still not sure how Venus managed to keep itself bot-free for so long. Woulda expected botters to just cap out and get sunned and pwn them. Only advantage really of a legit would be euro partying.

That's my opinion for the day.

then you sir have no idea how to make gold. perhaps the option of buying gold clogged everyones mind?

cant make gold and level at the same time.
time must be dedicated on doing both

S3by · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

If u found a active guild that plays everynight in partys and hunt uniques while speaking on teamspeak u have same luck as me

Less play but fun .

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

S3by wrote:

If u found a active guild that plays everynight in partys and hunt uniques while speaking on teamspeak u have same luck as me

Less play but fun .

ts info? id like 2 chat with u guys

kcyberbob · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 82 **Location:**

The hole United guild and union is legit on server Oasis.
And we in the United guild start at the moment new with eurochars only and all old and new player are at the ongs at moment.

vajayjay · **Posted:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:46 am

At this point, WHO CARES?! Good grief, even after all this time you people still come up with the same argument day in and day out. The truth is, and I know its hard to swallow it, is that 99.6% of the SRO population bots. The Venus "Legits", were dicks to everyone, and got what they deserved -- regardless if they were legit or not.

Honestly, outside of this forum, do you really think anyone cares *HOW* you leveled your character on a corrupt Korean game? This place is the ONLY forum I've seen that makes such a big deal about HOW you level your character. Every where else, the attitude is like; "You botted? So what?" "You're legit? So what?"

I bet I can name off a bunch of botters here in SRF who are frequent posters instantly if I wanted to; there are some here that have been hiding in the shadows for a long time and others to back up my claims if I wanted it to come to that. But I won't, because truth be told; the so-called "evil, self-centered, hypocritical, thoughtless and cruel" botters at least attempt to treat others like human beings (obviously it doesn't apply to everyone). To me, I could friggin' care less if you bot or if you're legit; how you come off as an individual person is what matters to me. It's become very apparent from reading old threads/posts that a lot of these banned "evil and cruel" botters have actually helped out many people on here with their builds, how to play in PvP, how to job successfully; etc. I have only seen a few of that kind of help from the legit's...

You know, it's funny to me when I see legits complaining about not being able to level up. Here is one bit of advice... stop PKing other (bots) and start focusing on leveling -- no, scratch that: Stop focusing on the negative all the time. If you had spent as much time and energy trying to level up instead of coming here to CONSTANTLY whine, you would be one-up on the botters.

But wait, you can't level because you can't find a party to level up with? Grow a pair and form one, at the same time it will help you with basic leadership skills. Shit worked for me, and I was able to take something useful out of a game that can just as easily be applied to real life. What better reward than that?

Can't understand Turkish/Arabic/German? Try taking up the language, or at the very least use a Translator. I know those thing's aren't 100% accurate, but at least you'll establish some type of rapport with them. I tried it, and believe it or not, I've made some pretty good Turkish friends on this game even though I'm American, simply because I gave a damn enough to try to communicate with them in their language. If they can communicate with us (however bad their English may be) or at least give a damn enough to talk with us in English, we should at the very least extend them the same courtesy. Who knows where it might lead you...

Fermions · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 158 **Location:**

vajayjay wrote:

At this point, WHO CARES?! Good grief, even after all this time you people still come up with the same argument day in and day out. The truth is, and I know its hard to swallow it, is that 99.6% of the SRO population bots. The Venus "Legits", were dicks to everyone, and got what they deserved -- regardless if they were legit or not.

Honestly, outside of this forum, do you really think anyone cares *HOW* you leveled your character on a corrupt Korean game? This place is the ONLY forum I've seen that makes such a big deal about HOW you level your character. Every where else, the attitude is like; "You botted? So what?" "You're legit? So what?"

I bet I can name off a bunch of botters here in SRF who are frequent posters instantly if I wanted to; there are some here that have been hiding in the shadows for a long time and others to back up my claims if I wanted it to come to that. But I won't, because truth be told; the so-called "evil, self-centered, hypocritical, thoughtless and cruel" botters at least attempt to treat others like human beings (obviously it doesn't apply to everyone). To me, I could friggin' care less if you bot or if you're legit; how you come off as an individual person is what matters to me. It's become very apparent from reading old threads/posts that a lot of these banned "evil and cruel" botters have actually helped out many people on here with their builds, how to play in PvP, how to job successfully; etc. I have only seen a few of that kind of help from the legit's...

You know, it's funny to me when I see legits complaining about not being able to level up. Here is one bit of advice... stop PKing other (bots) and start focusing on leveling -- no, scratch that: Stop focusing on the negative all the time. If you had spent as much time and energy trying to level up instead of coming here to CONSTANTLY whine, you would be one-up on the botters.

But wait, you can't level because you can't find a party to level up with? Grow a pair and form one, at the same time it will help you with basic leadership skills. Shit worked for me, and I was able to take something useful out of a game that can just as easily be applied to real life. What better reward than that?

Can't understand Turkish/Arabic/German? Try taking up the language, or at the very least use a Translator. I know those thing's aren't 100% accurate, but at least you'll establish some type of rapport with them. I tried it, and believe it or not, I've made some pretty good Turkish friends on this game even though I'm American, simply because I used a translator and attempted to communicate with them in their language. If they can communicate with us (however bad their English may be) or at least give a damn enough to talk with us in English, we should at the very least extend them the same courtesy. Who knows where it might lead you...

amen to that

Ownage · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 1173 **Location:** SwSro!

vajayjay wrote:

At this point, WHO CARES?! Good grief, even after all this time you people still come up with the same argument day in and day out. The truth is, and I know its hard to swallow it, is that 99.6% of the SRO population bots. The Venus "Legits", were dicks to everyone, and got what they deserved -- regardless if they were legit or not.

Honestly, outside of this forum, do you really think anyone cares *HOW* you leveled your character on a corrupt Korean game? This place is the ONLY forum I've seen that makes such a big deal about HOW you level your character. Every where else, the attitude is like; "You botted? So what?" "You're legit? So what?"

I bet I can name off a bunch of botters here in SRF who are frequent posters instantly if I wanted to; there are some here that have been hiding in the shadows for a long time and others to back up my claims if I wanted it to come to that. But I won't, because truth be told; the so-called "evil, self-centered, hypocritical, thoughtless and cruel" botters at least attempt to treat others like human beings (obviously it doesn't apply to everyone). To me, I could friggin' care less if you bot or if you're legit; how you come off as an individual person is what matters to me. It's become very apparent from reading old threads/posts that a lot of these banned "evil and cruel" botters have actually helped out many people on here with their builds, how to play in PvP, how to job successfully; etc. I have only seen a few of that kind of help from the legit's...

You know, it's funny to me when I see legits complaining about not being able to level up. Here is one bit of advice... stop PKing other (bots) and start focusing on leveling -- no, scratch that: Stop focusing on the negative all the time. If you had spent as much time and energy trying to level up instead of coming here to CONSTANTLY whine, you would be one-up on the botters.

But wait, you can't level because you can't find a party to level up with? Grow a pair and form one, at the same time it will help you with basic leadership skills. Shit worked for me, and I was able to take something useful out of a game that can just as easily be applied to real life. What better reward than that?

Can't understand Turkish/Arabic/German? Try taking up the language, or at the very least use a Translator. I know those thing's aren't 100% accurate, but at least you'll establish some type of rapport with them. I tried it, and believe it or not, I've made some pretty good Turkish friends on this game even though I'm American, simply because I gave a damn enough to try to communicate with them in their language. If they can communicate with us (however bad their English may be) or at least give a damn enough to talk with us in English, we should at the very least extend them the same courtesy. Who knows where it might lead you...

Not all Venus legits were dicks but I realized in my time spent on tSro with hem, that most of them were.

@post who said only thing legits got is euro pt well that's kinda wrong, I see globals all the time about a "overnight 8man euro pt (bot) at lvl99 mobs."

vajayjay · **Posted:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:08 am

Again, you assume that I meant that *ALL* of them were dicks; this is wrong, I clearly stated that I judge people on their integrity rather than how they level their characters. I've met Fly before and all his friends; seen their good side and the bad side. Unfortunately I saw more of his bad side and many followed suit out of fear. Fear because they built him up on so high a pedestal he nearly had God-status on that server. Fear of his (as laughable as such a concept is over a video game) wrath if they disagreed with him.

Believe me, I have met legit-pricks and botter-pricks whom I despised, and at the same time; I've met both botters and legits who were cool as hell and I would not hesitate to call them my friends.

What I'm trying to get at is look at what is happening here. Its a different form of discrimination. Simply interchange the words "legit" and "botter" to "white man" and "n—gger". You see where I'm going with this?

_Shinigami_ · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 2191 **Location:**

already quit. :roll:

got to 88 when the cap was 90

Karras · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 659 **Location:**

Amarisa wrote:

you sir have no idea how to make gold.

I don't buy gold, i have close to 10b now. Trying to get 10b n see if it caps.
How do i make that much of gold?
Well, i guess i could use your own statement there.

Amarisa wrote:

you sir have no idea how to make gold.

P.S.
So what if one knows how to make gold...
Suns can't be bought by gold... Most likely get scammed trying.
Ppl with sun are mostly botters, they don't sell them.
They don't need to sell them... They have the gold.
Most u can get from gold is sell em back to gold companies, get yourself full +7 gears, +9 weapons.

loveisintheair · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 352 **Location:**

Elija wrote:

Just curious did all the legits died out?

Depends on what you define to be a "legit". Some people on SRF are so anal, that they will accuse you of being "100%-not-legit-shizzle" even if you are running a music player while playing SRO.

Assuming you are talking about "botting" specifically... the answer is "virtually no".

ping_lo · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 911 **Location:**

@ all the bot defenders in this thread.

You can't deny all the asshole bots and claim that the few asshole legits are representative. Either they are both representative or neither are. Make up your mind can't have it both ways.

Just STFU with your tiny violins lamenting how great and compassionate all botters are and how heartless all legits are. By definition any botter no matter how nice a person they are is an inconsiderate clod. You have no rebutle to that so don't waste the energy trying. Those of us who chose to play the game were a minority. We did not exclude the botters. We welcomed botters to our ranks when they re rolled legit. It was the botters decision to exclude themselves. Even when they excluded themselves we still interacted with them. Yet at the same time there was some shame on their part so much so that many here are still deep in the closet. If there is nothing to be ashamed of then why do they hide?

Quit telling us about all those other forums where they don't care. Just go to those forums and don't bother to come back. Then you will not have to deal with the hypocrites and ethical players here and can be as free of ethics as you like. And if you have proof please put up or shut up.

I was and still am proud to be legit. And any botter can become a legit. It really is not hard. They are all simply to weak to. I am not talking physically weak or weak in game. Just mentally. Some of them may be intelligent but they are all still weak. It takes a strong determined person when faced with your overwhelming corruption even after a taste of it to stand up and say no. No more. That they care how they play and how others percieve them.

Grow up and realize that Fly and Nightbloom never represented everyone. Because honestly you guys are not wanted here if this is the best you got being all butthurt by what they and others accomplished. I knew it was doomed to failure but it was still impressive. I did not agree with all the methods but the principals yes. Anyhow nuff said go QQ on rev6.

ping_lo · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 911 **Location:**

vajayjay wrote:

What I'm trying to get at is look at what is happening here. Its a different form of discrimination. Simply interchange the words "legit" and "botter" to "white man" and "n—gger". You see where I'm going with this?

Um you do realize no one is born a bot it is strictly a choice. Not only is this not a different form it is not even remotely the same thing. But if you want to prove me wrong point out just one single botter who was born with his bot software already integrated in to his DNA. You are tying to defend the un defendable. Why bother?

Trace · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 244 **Location:** Mirrodin

Was going to post what ping_lo posted above

anyway Truie, I just hate the negative co-notation that comes with the label "legit", as if I'm a threat to other "cheaters" on the server. I'm just another silkroad player who plays by the rules.

Lol @ so much bot support in this thread.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:52 am

cool, every time there is a bot thread, lots of ppl participate and debate lol

XesoS · **Posted:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:14 am

NuclearSilo wrote:

cool, every time there is a bot thread, lots of ppl participate and debate lol

Why don't you participate ? oh nvm You already did in Other 100x thread lol

LuckyStarz · **Joined:** Sep 2009 **Posts:** 20 **Location:**

XesoS wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

cool, every time there is a bot thread, lots of ppl participate and debate lol

Why don't you participate ? oh nvm You already did in Other 100x thread lol

Like your even better..

Trace · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 244 **Location:** Mirrodin

NuclearSilo wrote:

cool, every time there is a bot thread, lots of ppl participate and debate lol

Rehashed arguments aren't really interesting debates, however, it is fun to troll.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

vajayjay wrote:

Again, you assume that I meant that *ALL* of them were dicks; this is wrong, I clearly stated that I judge people on their integrity rather than how they level their characters. I've met Fly before and all his friends; seen their good side and the bad side. Unfortunately I saw more of his bad side and many followed suit out of fear. Fear because they built him up on so high a pedestal he nearly had God-status on that server. Fear of his (as laughable as such a concept is over a video game) wrath if they disagreed with him.

Believe me, I have met legit-pricks and botter-pricks whom I despised, and at the same time; I've met both botters and legits who were cool as hell and I would not hesitate to call them my friends.

What I'm trying to get at is look at what is happening here. Its a different form of discrimination. Simply interchange the words "legit" and "botter" to "white man" and "n—gger". You see where I'm going with this?

what is a game?

is it a interactive movie of some sort or some entertainment system?

or a TV.

we dont care how other people level. we couldnt care who botted 2bh. the only thing we do care about is the fact bots have abused there game play and are just turning it into a movie creating 10 bots EACH.
i want to talk to 3000 legits on silkroad. i dont want to talk to about...300 bots that are afk most times or monitering there other bots...

this is a game, the point of a game is to entertain. every1 should have fun, not just the "dickheads" in venus.

theres dickheads in real life too. theres no doubt that they were gna be on sro. 90% of bots act like dick heads anyway.

XesoS · **Posted:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:36 pm

LuckyStarz wrote:

XesoS wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

cool, every time there is a bot thread, lots of ppl participate and debate lol

Why don't you participate ? oh nvm You already did in Other 100x thread lol

Like your even better..

Like we care

Blinxx · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 463 **Location:**

Elija wrote:

Just curious did all the legits died out?

I highly doubt they died out, I'm sure there are still some who try their best to keep playing since it IS a pretty cool game. The percentage of of people who play by the rules? who knows, maybe plenty more than people think. Atleast I'd think so, but I'm merely a hopeful so meh.

how sad that this topic had to be derailed...

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Bot support that obvious is 7 days kkthxbai.
P.S.: QQ moar?

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