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 Post subject: Re: Silkroad-R new silkroad version and website up [IMPORTANT]
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:13 pm 
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This is definitely interesting.

I can't wait for the 20th of December now. Too bad I have 2 exams at the 4th of January, so I basically have to spend Christmas reading and studying -.-

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Wait... OK it is a different game for now. But what if it is just a test server and they will upgrade silkroad into this one??

I'm 100% sure they won't. They wouldn't write "so you can enjoy Silkroad-R and Silkroad simultaneously" if they planned on doing that.

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http://www.gamershell.com/companies/joymax/937850.html

“Silkroad-R is a new start for the Silkroad franchise, while still allowing our community to have its choice of playing either Silkroad-R or the original Silkroad Online independently,”
The game provides a bot-free and lag-free experience says Joymax CEO, Nam-chul Kim.
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First time I've seen a quote from the CEO of Joymax in quite some time. Interesting.

Well, let's hope they genuinely want to relaunch Silkroad, because they have realized that Silkroad as in it's current state is impossible to save.

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Improvement
Skill Balance Improved

Changes in weapons damage for Chinese/European class weapons
Party EXP Improved
Integration and changes in skill mastery
Changes in European class skill damages
New additional Chinese/European skills

Growth & skill points improved

Reduced required EXP for level up
Change in monster item drop rate
Change in mastery & required skill points
Increased chances of Jupiter monster 11th level item drop
Additional Jupiter boss monster 12th level item drop

Level Design Improved

No Gold drop for level 70 and below
Increased quest reward EXP/skill EXP for level 70 and below
Item charging and free provision for level 70 and below
New quest routes and monster locations
Major additions for quest convenience

Forgotten World Improved

Higher chances of creating Dimension Pillars
Major reduction of re-entrance time
Major increase of rewards (additional skill point rewards)
Additional movement portal inside Forgotten World instance dungeon
Higher talisman drop rate

UI Improved

Improved information on character selection screen
Improved mouse pointer, mini map, item purchase UI, guide tool tip
Items comparison function added
Help guide within loading screen added



How the holy mother fvck can they seriously do ALL this for SRO-R and not give us shit?!?!!

iSRO players are supposed to be cool with that?

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Relax, SNAPPA. I do not understand why you see this as a bad move. If they are actually serious about cleaning the servers clean (which only time can show), I'm glad they did not simply make it a Legend update to iSRO. Because as it is, this would allow us legits to actually start from a fresh start :)

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You remember how big the legit comunity was on Aege even in the 90 cap afterwards it started going down. If joymax would start banning on the new SRO poeple who bot i know allot of poeple would go legit again also because the 50% Exp reduction you know its true i think this would be best for both party's Bots stay in isro where they can have fun pvping with there own 8/8 while legits could just go to Sro-R it would be perfect in my eyes



@Flying Dutchman,
That was then this is now. The bot is more prevalent now. The legit community on AEGE now is composed of ONE guild and maybe a few players spread out in other guilds.


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The bot thing isn't my main beef. My issue is them making a new fvcking version and giving it all the fixes while we are stuck with shit. I told you and D2 and Kush ingame and I'll say it here. I am NOT playing another char again. I will not start all over. If this truly is the end of iSRO then it is the end of me playing. That is why as the troll before put it "I am nerdraging". We get fvcked over and over and over by this moneygrubbing b!tch ass motherfvcking company and we just take it and ask for more of the same.

IF... IF iSRO does NOT get a update/fix/abuse intervention then what is the point of playing it?

I don't like WoW but it is hard to take this shit and look over and see how involved that company is with their players.

If Joymax wanted to end bots on iSRO it could. Easily. Massive bannings. BOOM.

(lol at all the posts here that would be saying "I got banned by accident blah blah blah").

Good luck on SRO-R.

I'll be at the rape crisis center with the rest of iSRO players.

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IF this is just for SRO-R and we cannot transfer our current chars then yeah I see it as bad for iSRO players. SRO-R is a great idea for those who will take part. But so many of us who are not are getting screwed out of an update cuz it would affect Joymax's bottom line.

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I do understand that you don't want to play another char over again. And trust me, I feel the same way.

However, all I'm saying is that if Joymax added this update to ISRO as a legend update, the bots would still have the unfair advantage of all already being 120 because they've had 5-6 years to get their botting chars up there.

That's why I believe it's better for Joymax to start this as a new game. However, my point only stands if Joymax actually keep the new servers clean. Else they might as well just have added it to ISRO.

Besides, I do not understand why you say "we are stuck with shit". I agree, the new Silkroad-R sounds cool, but it's not like they're making ISRO WORSE, just because they're launching Silkroad-R. By all means, it might actually get improved because of less traffic etc.


All in all, I do understand your concerns, though. It sucks to start all over. In my opinion the part about the new (and hopefully clean) Silkroad-R overrules the fact that we have to start all over, though. That's my opinion and I know we do not share those thoughts, but just wanted to point out why I said as I did.

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I'll give it a try aswell.

In that link you posted following is written:

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Silkroad-R is the all-new, light and easy to play massively multiplayer online role-playing game that picks up where the original left off. The game provides a bot-free and lag-free experience for players while they journey deep into historical fantasy, joining the Chinese and European civilizations along the Silk Road trade routes. Traveling across Jangan, from China to Constantinople, players can make their fortunes as merchants, prey on the rich as thieves, or be protection-for-hire as hunters. Silkroad-R provides players with the ultimate PVP experience. Players can battle it out with their Fellows, their partner pets, to become champions of the Silk Roads.


Does that mean, the old job system returns?

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I was thinking the exact same thing. They might go back to the old trade system. That would be awesome :)
I hate the new one to be honest.

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This Silkroad R is not the "silkroad 2" project with realm vs realm and that was about the Gods that was mentioned on silkroad secrets one year ago I hope?


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From what I can tell, this is basically their attempt at renewing their cash crop. You can still play iSRO, but it's the same game. No new updates to the game. So you will get bored eventually and either quit or switch to SROR/2.

Be nice if this happened like 5 years ago, but now I don't really give a crap anymore. Prob gonna just quit when this comes out. Game is just farked. Don't feel like wasting more time starting over again.

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Funny, Goseki, I feel the exact opposite. While you sound a bit hopeless and say that you'll probably quit because the game is just farked up, I'm extremely excited and can't wait for the 20th.

I do not like the thought of starting all over, though. That part sucks -.-

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As far as i remember the legit community on azteca also was very big.. legit group is quite high imo. Cant wait for SRO-R

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Funny, Goseki, I feel the exact opposite. While you sound a bit hopeless and say that you'll probably quit because the game is just farked up, I'm extremely excited and can't wait for the 20th.

I do not like the thought of starting all over, though. That part sucks -.-


Well, i meant it's great that they're "seemingly trying" to fix the game, but to create a new SRO and not bring any of the fixes to iSRO, it's just kinda like meh. Fck you all. Start over or fck off.

Be nice if they let us transfer 1 high level char per IP address (prevents botters from bringing their army to new server).

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Be nice if they let us transfer 1 high level char per IP address (prevents botters from bringing their army to new server).

So you say all people who has been botting their chars with full sun+12 set should be in new SRO-R?? Excuse me but fvck that!
But I agree they should give something to their loyal "customers" a gift.
It could be 3 months premium or some valuable items or sos weapons every degree until 8 degre, etc.

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Be nice if they let us transfer 1 high level char per IP address (prevents botters from bringing their army to new server).

So you say all people who has been botting their chars with full sun+12 set should be in new SRO-R?? Excuse me but fvck that!
But I agree they should give something to their loyal "customers" a gift.
It could be 3 months premium or some valuable items or sos weapons every degree until 8 degre, etc.

I agree with this.

Having chars moved over would completely fark up the whole idea of making this a new game, and not just a legend update.

However, as you said, giving customers who have spent a lot on ISRO throughout the years sounds like a great plan. They will probably not do it, but it definitely sounds fair.

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Will watch this space...from very far away.

You guys kinda underestimate legit's spending on the game. venus, huge ass community, everyone spending $$ on premiums, grab pets, etc. Azteca, quite a huge community, again everyone spending $$. SRO salvation, you can get capped in a few days, yet people still spend money on dresses, grab pets, trans, etc. Many people that bot in isro play SRS legit.
So if they can somehow keep the botters botting in isro but force them to play legit in SRO-R, could work.
If they decide to keep this bot-free, it can be huge. Esp. since many people would buy premiums aswell, to get capped faster and all.



BTW, is it going to be one server or multiple servers? Cause multiple servers is, in one word, gay.

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Will watch this space...from very far away.

You guys kinda underestimate legit's spending on the game. venus, huge ass community, everyone spending $$ on premiums, grab pets, etc. Azteca, quite a huge community, again everyone spending $$. SRO salvation, you can get capped in a few days, yet people still spend money on dresses, grab pets, trans, etc. Many people that bot in isro play SRS legit.
So if they can somehow keep the botters botting in isro but force them to play legit in SRO-R, could work.
If they decide to keep this bot-free, it can be huge. Esp. since many people would buy premiums aswell, to get capped faster and all.



BTW, is it going to be one server or multiple servers? Cause multiple servers is, in one word, gay.

My thoughts exactly. Especially for the goldbots there is no reason to join SRO-R, since there are no gold drops below lvl 70, thus making it harder for goldbots to make huge-ass profits.
As you said, Joymax might be able to "force" the botters to bot at ISRO instead of SRO-R. We can only hope :)

And yes, the spending power of legits is HUGE! Got reminded about that when talking to the fella's at Aege and listening to how much they spent on ISRO during the last couple of months alone. It's insane :sohappy:

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I'm sure most of the 'loyal' customers bot. Last time I was on isro, almost nova +12 botter I saw had prem +, an avatar, and a picker pet. Joymax clearly doesn't care if they bot or not, because they are 'loyal'

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I'm sure most of the 'loyal' customers bot. Last time I was on isro, almost nova +12 botter I saw had prem +, an avatar, and a picker pet. Joymax clearly doesn't care if they bot or not, because they are 'loyal'


Sure they don't mind them in Isro it seems however, They are the cause silkroad is slowly but surely bleeding out. And a company wants increase in its profits not a decrease hence maybe they will be smart and keep Sro-R Bot free and makesthe game attract players.

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I think what they will do is add 13D and othr stuffs thats not in isro from Ksro, then the botters in isro will have something to do (and spend $$ on) if they try to keep isro-r legit.

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This is interesting, im going to be away when OBT starts, but ill definitely look into this.

I was just talking with Gaige and MoP the other day saying how SRO was honestly one of the best online games i played, and i loved the Trade system (whats the new one i hear you guys talking about?) Except whenever i got 1 star popped :(

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All this tl;dr thread man. I'll download if you start playing at like 100 already. If not then I don't really feel like grinding all over again.. even if it was at a 500% increase that's still a long time.

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This is interesting, im going to be away when OBT starts, but ill definitely look into this.

I was just talking with Gaige and MoP the other day saying how SRO was honestly one of the best online games i played, and i loved the Trade system (whats the new one i hear you guys talking about?) Except whenever i got 1 star popped :(


New one is garbage. Absolutely garbage. You don't trade for gold. You don't even trade for exp. You trade for stones which is used to craft job armor(Think of it like 10% or something increase of the the armors at 20,40,60,80,120). Server turns in enough material that you grind for = server trade = successful = ticket + stones. If unsuccessful no ticket. Ticket = random trade for job armor craft material.

That's the job system. That's all there is to it. To level up though you have to be in job suit and guess what? Grind for quest items. Turn them in. Repeat.

This Silkroad"R" sounds more like wegame making their own server while Joymax or whatever is left or whatever that merge was continues to watch over the original.

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Will be in OBT, just for looking how they changed chinese chars. Even with 2x rates something like that i won't lvl all they way to 120 cap.

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You remember how big the legit comunity was on Aege even in the 90 cap afterwards it started going down. If joymax would start banning on the new SRO poeple who bot i know allot of poeple would go legit again also because the 50% Exp reduction you know its true i think this would be best for both party's Bots stay in isro where they can have fun pvping with there own 8/8 while legits could just go to Sro-R it would be perfect in my eyes



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That was then this is now. The bot is more prevalent now. The legit community on AEGE now is composed of ONE guild and maybe a few players spread out in other guilds.


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The bot thing isn't my main beef. My issue is them making a new fvcking version and giving it all the fixes while we are stuck with shit. I told you and D2 and Kush ingame and I'll say it here. I am NOT playing another char again. I will not start all over. If this truly is the end of iSRO then it is the end of me playing. That is why as the troll before put it "I am nerdraging". We get fvcked over and over and over by this moneygrubbing b!tch ass motherfvcking company and we just take it and ask for more of the same.

IF... IF iSRO does NOT get a update/fix/abuse intervention then what is the point of playing it?

I don't like WoW but it is hard to take this shit and look over and see how involved that company is with their players.

If Joymax wanted to end bots on iSRO it could. Easily. Massive bannings. BOOM.

(lol at all the posts here that would be saying "I got banned by accident blah blah blah").

Good luck on SRO-R.

I'll be at the rape crisis center with the rest of iSRO players.

Joymax = Sandusky if he ever went to the Vatican to become a priest AND THEN lived at Mike Jackson's house. yeah.... that bad.



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IF this is just for SRO-R and we cannot transfer our current chars then yeah I see it as bad for iSRO players. SRO-R is a great idea for those who will take part. But so many of us who are not are getting screwed out of an update cuz it would affect Joymax's bottom line.


Well, to be honest, i like the idea that everyone has to start over from scratch, but that's probably because i never bought any silk for the game with some "real" money. I got some silk from other ways, but i guess it's still just not the same as when you bought it yourself. Anyway I don't really care about character level, equipment, etc. as long as i have lots of friends for pting up and just enjoying the game with them.

Also with the starting over on a new server we could gather all the legits on 1 server, which should result in a really nice community. Actually it might even surpass the Azteca/Venus and TSRO legit movements in many aspects, especially if they actually keep out most of the bots. As there are no gold-drops until lv.70 it will also be a lot harder for goldbot-companies, they'd just have to ban them before they reach Lv.70 and it's completely pointless to even make characters on SRO-R. Also in my opinion there are many other things, which are clearly a lot more legit friendly compared to ISRO, which is why i think they are serious about doing this and want to keep it clean.

First all characters are more or less useful in making pts now. Even chinese characters can contribute to the pt and i assume they'll be no longer left out and have to solo all the way up. I am actually thinking about making a chinese blader with bicheon/force myself and i usually didn't really like chinese in pts (with some expections, but on ISRO it was quite rare to find chinese characters, who could actually contribute to the pt).

Second the reduced exp/SP requirements are also in favor for the legits rather than for the bots. While bots wouldn't really care about the exp needed, it should be a lot easier to reach Lv.8X or 9X in a legit way now.

Third the Forgotten World improvements also show, that they are going to make the whole game more legit friendly. They increase the rewards for FGW even more, reduce the re-entry time and increase the spawn rate of pillars. Also they increase the drop rate of talismans and you can even get SP from doing FGW runs. At least for the higher grade FGW's you'll need a competent pt and you won't be able to just bot through it. And it seems to be a lot more effective to do FGW's instead of just soloing/pting. They clearly make the group activities in the game more important and rewarding like that, which is a good thing for legits, as they seem to take part in such group activities more often and their team work is a lot better usually.

Forth, as already stated they'll apparently go back to the old job system and introduce traders again. This is also a lot better and i am actually looking forward to the job wars at lower lv. ranges. It should be similar to how it used to be on TSRO. I remember we had some awesome fights at lv.4X/5X level range there.

Also this is exactly, what i thought too:
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This Silkroad"R" sounds more like wegame making their own server while Joymax or whatever is left or whatever that merge was continues to watch over the original.


WeGame may have just realized, that they just simply can't fix the original SRO anymore, which they took over from Joymax. With a new completely independent SRO they can avoid the mistakes from Joymax and redesign the game in a better and more legit friendly way.

But SNAPPA77, i can see where you are coming from. I'd probably be rather disappointed too, if i would have spent money on the original SRO and i am glad that i never did that so far. But i really think you should give this new SRO a chance. It may not be as bad as you imagine it now and i actually see it as a great chance for the legit community of SRO to get organized again. I can assure, that you'll be impressed by the size of the legit SRO-community. Most legits either stopped playing or went to private servers instead, but at least from my point of view none of them is really any good. Eventually you'll get bored, which is why i think that many legits will give this a shot and if it turns out to be a real legit server, most of them usually don't mind spending some money on it. Anyway i am looking forward to this server and i think this will be the most entertaining SRO experience for me since TSRO, which was the best so far in my opinion.


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