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shoto
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:07 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: FuryAngle wrote: A blader vs a Glavier, both NPC gear and wepons, the glavier will allways win, if both a pure str.  your kidding right...everyone knows that it becomes pot battle. To a pur str, glaives are only scary when they crit, everything else is just like any other beating. Couple that in with the Bladers block and his KD the battle would go on forever and be up to either pots or crit. To make such a bold and definate statment is really arrogant and obnoxious. As a Blader i took it as a personal insult. FuryAngle wrote: I think blade "suks" more than a bower, all a blader has in PvP is KD, your "button mashing" the same 5keys all day long. imbue,kd,kd, stab,stab, and hope u kd since its the only thing you have. without KD bladers would be dead. Without nukes Pur int build would suk. Without the Stun or knock back Glaiver would get pwned. Without that stupid glowing bow skill with like 35 crit Archers would SUK out the ass. You can't take away a part of the game that makes it balanced thats just stupid  .. And button mashing WTF are you talking about we're using the skillz avaiable to us just like everyother build in fact knowing when to KD and when to combo timing your double stab and decideing where to throwin a hit from Smashing series or Soul Cut isn't exactly button mashing. I think anyone in the game can lean back in there seat and pvp with 1 hand and a blader is no exception. I mean when im fighting gliavers its always stun, triple hit, knockback, repeat next time think before you decide to dis a build just becuase its pur pwnage. Its worse than a thief complaing that he can be killed by hunters AND merchants. I swear you noobs will be the end of tomorrow if we don't stop you now 
YES finally someone with a brain. You Tell'em, some people just wanna B*tch bout stuff, the got nothing to do
Bladers are pretty sweet asides from the awesomness that just oozes out of everyone of us (we're that studly ...)...our skills look awesome...those chains are some of the best animated moves in the game (heaven chain anyone?).
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:12 am |
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dont forget the iron wall shield with bladers (shield series) phy defence power 408 increase ...
and beleave me ... having a 3 time stab on your ass ... it hurts
(especially with my crit 12 blade)
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cometfall
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:13 am |
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HBblade wrote: why do ppl make pure ints, when eventually they'll suck at pvp?
if you haven't noticed, there's no DUEL feature. there's no such thing as 1v1. its just a term for pure str glaivers (especially) who don't know how to fight in a group so all they can say when they loose a guild war is "1on1?"
during 70 cap, Passion and Aries of Athens already proved gears and not build is a greater factor. both are pure, passion is pure str and aries is pure int. both are heuskal players and both have sos+5 gears (garment passion and armor aries) and sos+7 weapons (even before astral and immortal stones came). they have videos in youtube you can look at it and see how "pure int suck"
i have heard a lot of ppl complaining "coz u got sos" after a pure int pwns a pure str glaiver (same level, same farmed). isnt your gears part of how you have played your character? whether int or str...? i have a pure str fire glaiver with sos/som set & sos+5 weapon guildmate and we did fairly equal against my 90% mag nuker with sos set & sos+5 weapon. (though i had 53 masteries at that time and he 51, it should have compensated against his som pieces)
not to mention those complaining glaivers used chains in a pvp... lol! or nukers who fire two nukes in succession against a pure str glaiver/blader.. when they loose they all say "sos"
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:51 am |
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cometfall wrote: HBblade wrote: why do ppl make pure ints, when eventually they'll suck at pvp? if you haven't noticed, there's no DUEL feature. there's no such thing as 1v1. its just a term for pure str glaivers (especially) who don't know how to fight in a group so all they can say when they loose a guild war is "1on1?" during 70 cap, Passion and Aries of Athens already proved gears and not build is a greater factor. both are pure, passion is pure str and aries is pure int. both are heuskal players and both have sos+5 gears (garment passion and armor aries) and sos+7 weapons (even before astral and immortal stones came). they have videos in youtube you can look at it and see how "pure int suck" i have heard a lot of ppl complaining "coz u got sos" after a pure int pwns a pure str glaiver (same level, same farmed). isnt your gears part of how you have played your character? whether int or str...? i have a pure str fire glaiver with sos/som set & sos+5 weapon guildmate and we did fairly equal against my 90% mag nuker with sos set & sos+5 weapon. (though i had 53 masteries at that time and he 51, it should have compensated against his som pieces) not to mention those complaining glaivers used chains in a pvp... lol! or nukers who fire two nukes in succession against a pure str glaiver/blader.. when they loose they all say "sos"
A lvl 42 nukers with an sos+5 sword/spear can kill a lvl 48 str build....nukers deal TONs of damage thats the purpose of there build even if a pur str build had SoS weapons that doesn't stop the nuker from dealing TONs of damage. But i agree at the Cap gear will play a large role into it but strongly believe that Great gear+ pur str build PWNs all at 80 cap regardless of the out of a fight between just 2 ppl which hardly counts as a reference becuase im sure you can go on another server see the PUR str build that owns the int build and vice-versa....I only lose to pure int sword that are a higher lvl than me and losing to spear is a very rare thing (i get caught off guard butits my fault). Meanwhile the only thing that can kill me is a higher lvl nuker cause i've tanked blader and glaive damage before and come out A-Ok 
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takolin
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:01 pm |
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Bakemaster wrote: 1v1 a blader. You can't kill him, he can't kill you. You wonder why people would roll bladers.
Now 2v2 with a friend against a pair of bladers. You still can't kill them. Oops! Five stabs in one KD with a big juicy crit--you die. Your friend runs. Oops! Phantomed over and knocked his ass down. Your friend dies. You wonder why people ever roll anything else.
VS a sword int it would be who KD'ed first.
6 full int stabs will hurt no matter what build you are.
But I prefer spears to any build.
I like the damage they do. Even if I need to sacrifice defence and HP for it.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:06 pm |
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well, to tell you the truth i have no idea if a blade is better, at least fighting wise.
But i have a blade and i like it, even though i like never level up, i just like the way my blade looks and blades are really good with fire, and i like fire
so there's my best explination to your question

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SuicideGrl
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:27 pm |
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Bakemaster wrote: 1v1 a blader. You can't kill him, he can't kill you. You wonder why people would roll bladers.
Now 2v2 with a friend against a pair of bladers. You still can't kill them. Oops! Five stabs in one KD with a big juicy crit--you die. Your friend runs. Oops! Phantomed over and knocked his ass down. Your friend dies. You wonder why people ever roll anything else.
well said, bake. i am an int hybrid, and the best companion to me is a blader when we PvP. the blader tanks while i nuke. blader kd's and stabs, i am waiting w/ a GSM as soon as they stand up. there's nothing like kd'ing someone who's stunned lol ;)
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Post subject: Re: Why do people make bladers? Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:38 pm |
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Temptation wrote: They level slow, they're only purpose is healing and to tank and kill people lower than them.
When I originally made my character, I didn't want to be just "another glavier". I liked the idea of carrying a shield for blocking, so it was either sword or blade. I wanted to be able to take a beating from mobs and whatnot, and swordsmen are int based and therefore don't have a lot of HP, so I went with blade.
I can kill players and mobs higher level than me. Maybe not a lot higher, but it is possible. I'm lvl 43 currently and I can kill Mugijis/Ugijis as long as it's just 1 or 2 at a time. Having a wolf my level helps, a LOT.
Besides, bladers are just fun to watch. Pure STR blader FTW 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:43 pm |
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yeh 1 on 1 bladers are boring....
But its all about the gangbang. 
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Alfred
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:49 pm |
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All builds play an important roll. You just need to learn what your is. Sometimes it is more important to be able to stay alive then to kill.
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KYD
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:53 pm |
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Cant die , nothing else then that. you just cand die 1 vs 1 at 80
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hitokiri
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:02 pm |
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Everyone is too set on 1v1. The best part of jobbing is in groups. Thats when strategy or teamwork can beat just brute strength. Going and jobbing yourself, its frustrating. You get popped, you get killed by a high ass level, whatever. But why not work with someone?
A blader is your meat shield, they run in ahead, start KDing and doing combos on the enemies, naturally they target him. Now a Nuker runs in and as the blader keeps the attention they start hittin the big digits on the enemy and severly hurts if not kills them. I saw a 24+ and a 32+ blader double team a 42+ glavier when he jumped them in job, 42+ had a fun respawn back to town.
People say man Pure Int dies so easy in 1v1. Maybe so, but try fighting in a group PvP, and take your eyes off them for too long, and enjoy laying on the ground.
Oh and lets not forget Bows, yes the supposed easiest thing to kill, no bow can 1v1 anybody, blah blah blah. Again its teamwork. Treat the bow like a nuker. If you can distract the enemy and let the Archer use their skills in peace, they can destroy alot. In a guildwar a long time ago on Troy, our guild had no strategy for it. We ran out like idiots, nobody listened. But the other guild was another story. I specifically remember a Glavie and Bow working as a team. They would take each of us down so quick it was ridiculous. Hit the glavie first, the bow starts poundin on you, go to take down the bow and get soulspeared + ghostspeared in the back.
I havent had more fun on this game they working together with people in jobs, and I feel bad for those who havent or dont. You are missing out on too much fun.
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PsYch008
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:09 pm |
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dunno whats wrong with you guys, but since i had more alchemy success, and hit level 60, my blader pwns almost any int based char near my level. i have taken out 4 different level 64+ nukers (spear nukers go down easy, but s/s take a little more time, but easy with zerk)
bladers pwn thats why... you just have to know what you are doing...
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FuryAngle
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:19 pm |
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Nearly all bladers only use kd/stab and thats it, I find it pretty boring. Rarely do you see a blader us a chain during pvp..
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PsYch008
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:31 pm |
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FuryAngle wrote: Nearly all bladers only use kd/stab and thats it, I find it pretty boring. Rarely do you see a blader us a chain during pvp..
i have my own pvp style... kd stab a few times, then heaven chain, then kd stab again, and if it is an int char they are most likely dead at this point.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:02 pm |
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I  Bladers!
My partner is a pure str fire blader ... and he is awesome is all I can say.
We have been working as a pair since we started SRO and it is finally starting to pay off. The leveling has been slow ... but the results have been so much fun.
I run ... he ghost walks in, gets in their face, and knocks them down ... whether it be a player or giant ... then I turn and shoot during his heaven chain (often completely out of sight of whatever I am shooting) ... and death for the opponent soon follows. When we get the timing right, its like dancing and very, very effective.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:03 pm |
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Because they can do backflips.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:14 pm |
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FuryAngle wrote: Nearly all bladers only use kd/stab and thats it, I find it pretty boring. Rarely do you see a blader us a chain during pvp..
because chains isn't that strong for a finsher move. do you see a glavier that use chain alot????? No. only SSS to stun and marsh to Knockback
that's pretty boring too.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:15 pm |
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FuryAngle wrote: Nearly all bladers only use kd/stab and thats it, I find it pretty boring. Rarely do you see a blader us a chain during pvp..
Bull, pure and simple, the only thing i ever really even use is the chains and when i wait for cooldown thats when i kd and stab and i kill pure str. and ints in my lvl +
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:24 pm |
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EvilDiablo wrote: FuryAngle wrote: Nearly all bladers only use kd/stab and thats it, I find it pretty boring. Rarely do you see a blader us a chain during pvp.. Bull, pure and simple, the only thing i ever really even use is the chains and when i wait for cooldown thats when i kd and stab and i kill pure str. and ints in my lvl +
Agreed. I rarely ever PVP, but when I do, I use chains a lot (I use them for mobs a lot too). Yes, KD+stab is useful during the chain's cooldown. If the opponent tries to run, there's always the ranged attacks to get in a little damage until you can catch up to them. Frostbite helps if they don't have ice immunity.
And as someone mentioned above... I can't wait until I can do backflips!
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:45 pm |
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i love to help and heal people.
i dont care if i die or if i loose or if its enemy or friend 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:00 pm |
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whoever sed bladers r weak are dumb.. ive seen bladers do 6k with jump stab+ 2-3k each for the double stab...
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:11 pm |
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i wont even read what people have put. Im a blader and well i cant kill people my lvl but they cant kill me. If i had SOx it would be a diff story. And well.... all a blader need is a great wep with HIGH CRIT and then its pure pwnage time. U cant get beter than a prepared blader IMO
P.S "a blader with the 5-6 move combos with very nice CRIT .WOOOOO your all dead"
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Post subject: Re: Why do people make bladers? Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:14 pm |
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Temptation wrote: They level slow, they're only purpose is healing and to tank and kill people lower than them.
Fine wine takes time..
It's not about 1v1.. it's all about group battles and even 1v1... someone will get hurt.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:15 pm |
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Bladers my lvl in similar gear go down in less than 6 hits, especially if they like their chains and backflips ^^
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:21 pm |
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I only went blade for heaven chain.
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Post subject: blader = pwnage = nuff said Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:25 pm |
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no int can come close to killing my blader, as a test i had a lvl 61 nuker with a +5 full blue 60 spear nuke me as i just stood there doing nothing. He never even got me below 1/3 hp. and even tho he was in armor (good armor too, everthing blue int and str and +3 at least) i took him down in a kd stab (crit) stab, or kd, stab, stab, heaven chain, kd, stab.
bladers pwn, you gotta know what to put on your gear, and you gotta know what to do in pvp...
and yes, high crit makes a big diff, and will make you pwn that much more as a blader.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:32 pm |
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Of course theres alot 2 discuss, but i'll just look at the facts:
Blader
Shield  Block+More Def  Longer life
Sword/Blade  Less, attack  longer lvl up time
(+1 to the combos  , facial credit )
Glave
High Damage  Less lvling time
Low Defence  Pot addicts
I stick to the slow fermentation: BLADER 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:34 pm |
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: Of course theres alot 2 discuss, but i'll just look at the facts: BladerShield  Block+More Def  Longer life Sword/Blade  Less, attack  longer lvl up time (+1 to the combos  , facial credit ) GlaveHigh Damage  Less lvling time Low Defence Pot addicts I stick to the slow fermentation: BLADER 
Blader needs more pots cuz he takes longer to kill
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:07 pm |
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Bladers are the ultimate tankers
They can go AFK on mobs XD
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