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Rainigul
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:05 am |
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Mahnitu wrote: this will be the next anti gold bot update
Now THOSE made me lol 
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Ell
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:10 am |
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It's a free game, if your not satisfied, quit.
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shoto
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:21 am |
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ooooooo wrote: zomg do i really have to own shit up...
can u ppl whine more pl0x and second, if u got rid of bots, there would be nothing to do... u cant call anyone a bot if their legit... u cant look forward to getting one step closer to killing that person, and last the game will die
right because playing the game how its "meant" to be played is gonna make it die...
also calling someone a bot isn't recreational in ANY way and i certainly don't look forwards to killing bots i just want them gone 
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Frozen
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:22 am |
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numatan wrote: urtoasty wrote: i think that getting rid of bots would be extremely wise, i think the next step instead of making more servers and more monsters/weapons, they need to focus directly on bots. They need to find a program that Bans their IP when they get caught for botting. That should be their number 1 focus right now. They shouldnt worry about people being happy and coming out with events and new things and just need to worry about bots for a while. People are getting sick of bots and leaving the game cause of it, so in turn, joymax is loosing some of its money as well. Its also taking the fun away from people that actually play and even pay for things in that game. Im not critizising the mods or gms of the game but they could do a lot better to fix this. Unfortuntately, there are two problems with this: 1) IP bans are ineffective, as IP addresses can be easily changed at the point of service or via a proxy. 2) Apparently the botters buy silk, and as long as that happens Joymax isn't going to cut off some of their revenue stream. I wholeheartedly agree that botting is destroying the game. I think a good solution would be a timed captcha test upon entering or teleporting into towns. When the bots re-up their pots and fix their equipment, they'll have to enter a code within a certain period of time. If the time expires, they are temp banned from the server for some period of time (say a few hours or so).
They could ban by hardware id
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numatan
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:39 am |
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Frozen wrote: numatan wrote: urtoasty wrote: i think that getting rid of bots would be extremely wise, i think the next step instead of making more servers and more monsters/weapons, they need to focus directly on bots. They need to find a program that Bans their IP when they get caught for botting. That should be their number 1 focus right now. They shouldnt worry about people being happy and coming out with events and new things and just need to worry about bots for a while. People are getting sick of bots and leaving the game cause of it, so in turn, joymax is loosing some of its money as well. Its also taking the fun away from people that actually play and even pay for things in that game. Im not critizising the mods or gms of the game but they could do a lot better to fix this. Unfortuntately, there are two problems with this: 1) IP bans are ineffective, as IP addresses can be easily changed at the point of service or via a proxy. 2) Apparently the botters buy silk, and as long as that happens Joymax isn't going to cut off some of their revenue stream. I wholeheartedly agree that botting is destroying the game. I think a good solution would be a timed captcha test upon entering or teleporting into towns. When the bots re-up their pots and fix their equipment, they'll have to enter a code within a certain period of time. If the time expires, they are temp banned from the server for some period of time (say a few hours or so). They could ban by hardware id
Well, they can try to ban by hardware ID. Most hardware IDs for game anti-cheat systems are generated from easily changeable or spoofed items such as hard drive serial number, MAC address, optical drive firmware revision, etc.
This is why systems such as Punkbuster are a failure - I've seen people banned with a global hardware ban on the day of a PB update be back on the servers in less than an hour.
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urtoasty
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:16 pm |
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shadowman20875 wrote: blizzard cares, joymax doesn't, what can u do? blizzard cares??? thats why there are still hackers right? excpecially in diablo.. Dont see as much in starcraft but i havent played in a couple months. Ell wrote: It's a free game, if your not satisfied, quit.
its also not free to the people that make it. We are just trying to help them realize that they need to fix the problem ASAP. Otherwise they wont have a game anymore.
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m0rph
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:29 pm |
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GM's exist......They just can't get online 
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urtoasty
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:37 pm |
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why arnt they able to get online?
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urtoasty
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:42 pm |
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lol....never expected that answer...well, if we can get on, they so should they.
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EwwBabel
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:43 pm |
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i think botters buy more silk than legtis..
joymax is free game, but they need $$ to run servers - getting rid of bots = lots of income gone, won't happen.
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urtoasty
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:45 pm |
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EwwBabel wrote: i think botters buy more silk than legtis..
joymax is free game, but they need $$ to run servers - getting rid of bots = lots of income gone, won't happen.
yea but like i said, the more botters leave, the more actual players come back, therfore more money again.
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EwwBabel
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:49 pm |
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urtoasty wrote: EwwBabel wrote: i think botters buy more silk than legtis..
joymax is free game, but they need $$ to run servers - getting rid of bots = lots of income gone, won't happen. yea but like i said, the more botters leave, the more actual players come back, therfore more money again.
if gm is making a ton of money off these botters, all who have multiple accounts - why do they care where it comes from -.-
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m0rph
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:54 pm |
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Yes...and there is the rub...I think Joymax are treading the fine line to maximise profit....say the right things..do nothing.
Joymax could simply reboot the servers once in a while at random times, that would soon control afk ers and Botters, you might upset a few stallholders and players for a while but I bet most would prefer that option in the long run...
Anyway 
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urtoasty
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:17 pm |
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EwwBabel wrote: urtoasty wrote: EwwBabel wrote: i think botters buy more silk than legtis..
joymax is free game, but they need $$ to run servers - getting rid of bots = lots of income gone, won't happen. yea but like i said, the more botters leave, the more actual players come back, therfore more money again. if gm is making a ton of money off these botters, all who have multiple accounts - why do they care where it comes from -.-
they are going to care soon, cause the only people that play are actual botters. Once everyone is gone and only botters left. No more jobbing or anything. People will jsut be the lvl cap and thats it. There wont be any point to keep going. And its cheating. so, they still need to ban them and care were it comes from. Cause we take the time and money to actually play and get disconeected and never able to get on when we spent money on rabits and stuff.
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TwelveEleven
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:28 pm |
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sloweredmangyang wrote: GM? wat is GM? oooo right..wait...SRO has GMs? lmao jk, yea i think they could do better too, but i think there trying.
GM= Guild Master
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AeshmaDiva
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:38 am |
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TwelveEleven wrote: sloweredmangyang wrote: GM? wat is GM? oooo right..wait...SRO has GMs? lmao jk, yea i think they could do better too, but i think there trying. GM= Guild Master
actually we're talking about Game masters here;) Tnx for replies you guys... some are very interesting. You think we should start an anti-bot online petiton
Have fun and many good drops today  (so often I see a botter get one  )
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Axeoo7
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:42 am |
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Gms are playing KSRO 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:45 am |
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Why do you think we dont get any updates or bots banned. The GMs spend all day trying to log into the servers. When they finally do log in they find 10 bots and get ?????? error and thats why the bot lists are so crap.
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achmalach
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:48 am |
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Legend VII: GM's ban bots
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Spider
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:08 am |
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EwwBabel wrote: i think botters buy more silk than legtis..
joymax is free game, but they need $$ to run servers - getting rid of bots = lots of income gone, won't happen.
I think most botters are kids that cant even afford buying silk.
And if they buy silk, they need maybe 2 or 3 at max 4-week GTs to hit lvl 80... I just finished my 6th GT and I'm still not 80 ^^ See the difference?
So what else need botters to buy silk for? Squirrels? I rarely see bots using pets for collecting their stuff.
How about Astral and Immortal? It's basically CCFed.
Regarding it on a long term, legit players bring more profit imo.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:15 am |
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what i do if i see a person bot...that is all the time lol
i go to somewhere else so they wont botter me.
and spawn a protector bot dies.
attack it if it attacks back run till ur name is green go back let it kill u.
he will pk and disconnect.
simple things like that just figure it out
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