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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:08 pm |
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Ahm, isn't there a way to email em? Cause it's kinda a good distance from where I am to their location.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:08 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:20 pm |
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I called the Korean office today, to be somewhat vaguely confirmed by GM hanpooh [I always assumed hanpooh was a woman  ] that they in fact do not get everything that is sent to the US office. I informed him of the botting issue, the account security, and the serious lag issues.
"We only recieve a monthly report on what the California represenatives find glitched. We're aware that there is a 'afk leveling' problem, but we did not know it was to a certain degree."
"Any letters you can send would be helpful I'll initiate an investigation into your claims and the efficiency of the California office."
Start writing your letters, people.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:27 pm |
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Quote: We only recieve a monthly report on what the California represenatives find glitched. I thought they make a report weekly Quote: but we did not know it was to a certain degree
Bot problem...totally ignored
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:30 pm |
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Nokturne wrote: I called the Korean office today, to be somewhat vaguely confirmed by GM hanpooh [I always assumed hanpooh was a woman  ] that they in fact do not get everything that is sent to the US office. I informed him of the botting issue, the account security, and the serious lag issues. "We only recieve a monthly report on what the California represenatives find glitched. We're aware that there is a 'afk leveling' problem, but we did not know it was to a certain degree." "Any letters you can send would be helpful I'll initiate an investigation into your claims and the efficiency of the California office." Start writing your letters, people.
You just made my day =) I asked a friend of mine who is korean if she could help me with writing a letter to JM, but she only knows basic korea, she mentioned she can have someone else help me tho, so JM can certainly expect a letter from me <3
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:38 pm |
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Kiriyu and I no longer play, and if Itonami hadnt come up with this whole scheme in the first place, we wouldn't have gotten the idea. Silkroad is a great game, it's just neglected.
Basically contacting them now, this far after beta, is an effort to keep the players ingame. Botters or not, the game does deserve to be fixed as far as lag goes, as far as account security, and as far as general gameplay. [We ll love those random walls in the middle of nowhere.] I think no matter who plays, you should at least keep your services decent.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 12:31 am |
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I don't know about players emailing, calling up, threatening, demanding, suing, and talking to the BBB is really going to turn out well.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:12 am |
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Itonami wrote: The point of contacting KJM is to let them know directly what the problems are. If someone has been banned, hacked, anything, thats not what we were trying to get across. The point is to let them know what you personally think about the situation of the game.
Nothing more.
i think we can all agree that JM knows what the problems are, and not that the CA office isn't sending them all the feedbacks, it's about making money the world, not yeilding to every whine & cry there is out there directed at you're product 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:30 am |
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Exactly sunmoon,
This is my point.
What the original post and other are doing to Joymax right now is pushing them to cave to there demands, they arent asking or altering them of anything new.
Joymax is struggling so what do the players do?
I would help make the community better, or take a break, but u guys yell at the company and shove it in there face anymore.
How far up there ass will they take it till they just shutdown iSRO forever and figure the juice wasnt worth the squeeze.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:36 am |
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SoBlu wrote: Exactly sunmoon,
This is my point.
What the original post and other are doing to Joymax right now is pushing them to cave to there demands, they arent asking or altering them of anything new.
Joymax is struggling so what do the players do?
I would help make the community better, or take a break, but u guys yell at the company and shove it in there face anymore.
How far up there ass will they take it till they just shutdown iSRO forever and figure the juice wasnt worth the squeeze.
I'd rather have no game than a broken neglected one.
I'm moving to jSRO as I type this...
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:40 am |
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jyro dont be so emo,
There will be a future for SRO if things dont keep going downhill.
Who buys the gold ? Players,
Who makes softmod? players,
Who spams the chat? Players,
Who pushes Joymax to fix this abuse? Players
Who Bots? Players
Who multclients? Players
Who complains and wants this fixed? The players, legit or not, we cause the issue and continue to make it worse. Dont tell me it is only Joymaxes fault, the blame game only works in elementary.
Id rather have a good community then a great game.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:41 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:43 am |
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SoBlu wrote: jyro dont be so emo,
There will be a future for SRO if things dont keep going downhill.
Who buys the gold ? Players, Who makes softmod? players, Who spams the chat? Players, Who pushes Joymax to fix this abuse? Players Who Bots? Players Who multclients? Players
Who complains and wants this fixed? The players, legit or not, we cause the issue and continue to make it worse. Dont tell me it is only Joymaxes fault, the blame game only works in elementary.
Id rather have a good community then a great game.
Edit:
I had said some other stuff here but I changed my mind...
I just got frustrated, I'm only human.
I tried jSRO just now and I still like iSRO better because it actually has people in it.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:30 am |
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I wish you all the best with this.
Quote: There will be a future for SRO if things dont keep going downhill.
Who buys the gold ? Players, Who makes softmod? players, Who spams the chat? Players, Who pushes Joymax to fix this abuse? Players Who Bots? Players Who multclients? Players
Who complains and wants this fixed? The players, legit or not, we cause the issue and continue to make it worse. Dont tell me it is only Joymaxes fault, the blame game only works in elementary.
Id rather have a good community then a great game.
Now i totally agree with what was said here. The bot issue is NOT joymax's fault. Sure it is their responsibility to fix it, us players are the ones who caused it.
Now i would send over a letter myself, but whilst im saving to get my pc fixed, i cant really afford it.
Though i really do wish u all the best in your efforts.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:12 am |
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SoBlu wrote: There will be a future for SRO if things dont keep going downhill.
Who buys the gold ? Players, Who makes softmod? players, Who spams the chat? Players, Who pushes Joymax to fix this abuse? Players Who Bots? Players Who multclients? Players
Who complains and wants this fixed? The players, legit or not, we cause the issue and continue to make it worse. Dont tell me it is only Joymaxes fault, the blame game only works in elementary.
Id rather have a good community then a great game.
*clap clap* I think you deserve a round of applause and a standing ovation.
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Post subject: lol Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:28 pm |
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And so it is, ppl don't like the truth or they just prefer to wait till someone else does the job for them. Each time someone comes up with an idea to make the game better all ppl gather together and start screaming "Noob, idiot, blah blah blah blah".
Well, let the ppl that decide to try something, try it before you start "noob"-ing us again.
If we are right and if we can manage to get somewhere with this letters and stuff, well, that is to bee seen. If you have special psychic abilities just don't ruin the surprise for us.
And btw, if JM is guilty for what is going on, how come they don't have the same problems in the other versions of SRO?
Again: I totally support this attempt. If I am wrong or not, we will see in the future.
Anyways, if JM won't do anything this means they are absolutely aware of what is going on and they can be sued, finally. 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:58 pm |
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did you ever consider how rude nokturnes post was? It constantly challenged morningdew's authority. On top of that there were there provocations..instead of trying to talk to MD or get a comment she was rude. No wonder Nockturne had the account banned. Ontop of that Consider the fact that it may not be a california problem. Maybe this issue is being forwarded to the korea offices. Fankly i think under the banner of open forum Nockturne abused her rights. The thread basically beomes a mob lynching...its like you all were thirsting for Blood.
Realize that none of you suggestions above are new. Everything you have sais someone at sometime has said on this forum or the official forums. MorningDew has answered to all of those questions. And at best she would say what she said before..."we are working on it"
who do you think tells her to say that?
Its the Korea Office.
MorningDew has less power than you think and therefore is less at fault.
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Post subject: i don't wanna be rude... Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:22 pm |
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I really don't wanna be rude, but why do you think the USA team has absolutely no authority?What makes you think that? How come the other versions of SRO don't have the same problems as the iSRO has?
And maybe you think Nokturne was rude, but each MD answer is rude. They treat us like stupid. I suppose you read the forums so you have an idea of what I mean. And MD did answer to that thread in a very ..umm let's just be nice and say in an unprofessional way. Just that he/she deleted his/her own post (try asking yourself why).
So please don't tell me MD is a nice guy/girl. When you give answers like :
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This game is Free 2 Play game. It is also your decision to play it or not. You do not need us to give you reasons to play.
Joymax Moderation Team. "
you cannot expect any respect form the customers.
So don't go cry MD's fate, he/she has a nice bureau in Silicon Valley, driving a super nice car (from what he/she says), and all that with a salary paid by a company that develops a free game.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:23 pm |
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SoBlu wrote: jyro dont be so emo,
There will be a future for SRO if things dont keep going downhill.
Who buys the gold ? Players, Who makes softmod? players, Who spams the chat? Players, Who pushes Joymax to fix this abuse? Players Who Bots? Players Who multclients? Players
Who complains and wants this fixed? The players, legit or not, we cause the issue and continue to make it worse. Dont tell me it is only Joymaxes fault, the blame game only works in elementary.
Id rather have a good community then a great game.
Who farms the gold? Botters
Who uses softmod? Botters
Who spams the chat? Modified Clients or pk2 editing, usually someone that is a botter
Who multiclients? Botters
Who bots? Botters
Who doesn't want things to change for the better? Botters
Being nice about it is like one year too late? Maybe? I think so.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:38 pm |
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shoto wrote: did you ever consider how rude nokturnes post was? It constantly challenged morningdew's authority. On top of that there were there provocations..instead of trying to talk to MD or get a comment she was rude. No wonder Nockturne had the account banned. Ontop of that Consider the fact that it may not be a california problem. Maybe this issue is being forwarded to the korea offices. Fankly i think under the banner of open forum Nockturne abused her rights. The thread basically beomes a mob lynching...its like you all were thirsting for Blood.
Realize that none of you suggestions above are new. Everything you have sais someone at sometime has said on this forum or the official forums. MorningDew has answered to all of those questions. And at best she would say what she said before..."we are working on it"
who do you think tells her to say that? Its the Korea Office. MorningDew has less power than you think and therefore is less at fault.
CA office is pretty much joymax scapegoat, LOL
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Post subject: Re: i don't wanna be rude... Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:42 pm |
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Phantasia wrote: I really don't wanna be rude, but why do you think the USA team has absolutely no authority?What makes you think that? How come the other versions of SRO don't have the same problems as the iSRO has? And maybe you think Nokturne was rude, but each MD answer is rude. They treat us like stupid. I suppose you read the forums so you have an idea of what I mean. And MD did answer to that thread in a very ..umm let's just be nice and say in an unprofessional way. Just that he/she deleted his/her own post (try asking yourself why). So please don't tell me MD is a nice guy/girl. When you give answers like :
"New Post Posted 05 May 2007 0305 am Post subject Spartamorningdew
17 Jan 2007 0011 am Posts 5249
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9EADY,
This game is Free 2 Play game. It is also your decision to play it or not. You do not need us to give you reasons to play.
Joymax Moderation Team. "
you cannot expect any respect form the customers. So don't go cry MD's fate, he/she has a nice bureau in Silicon Valley, driving a super nice car (from what he/she says), and all that with a salary paid by a company that develops a free game.
My friend what is wrong with this reply. Just like shoto said, we do not think highly of Joymax in the first place and get very little back, but when they reply we give them shit for it too.
Plus do not assume things above youre head. Dont assume all the other versions are perfect, dont think iSRO is making billions of dollars, is corrupt and Korea and the iSRO team could care less.
Rumors followed by results lead to inconclusive actions.
The original poster of this topic has an e-penis the size of mt.everest He is at best an ignorant gamer.
xAnyeongx,
Stop blaming people and taking sides. There is no Bot or Turk, or Black, or white or whatever.
There is only person, there is you. Thats it, take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming the world.
I am Soblu. I use to Bot, but now I am 100% pure hand grinder. I play this game plus other MMOs. I treat ppl with respect and I take the time to be open and honest when need be.
If Joymax disappointed you then, keep trying, and keep youre sanity. But leave when the fun is gone, dont troll till the world is dead.
-Be yourself, there is nothing else to close to the truth.
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Post subject: Re: i don't wanna be rude... Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:02 pm |
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SoBlu wrote: The original poster of this topic has an e-penis the size of mt.everest He is at best an ignorant gamer. Please forgive my ignorance, and beware of my enormous e-penis.. but I think I have every right to tell you to shut the hell up. Read the following, my all-knowing, penis-lacking god of intellegence. Quote: IF YOU ARE GOING TO FLAME - GET OUT All opinions are welcome, but if you're going to start a flame war of any kind, I will request that this topic is locked and I can always retry. We are doing this in attempt to benefit the iSRo community. While you are entitled to your opinion, I think you went too far and need to consult whatever crawled up your bum and died to find a new home. As Itonami said, Quote: Nothing tried, nothing gained.
At least we aren't harassing them. Although my original post may have come off as rude, I have every reason to have stated the things I said in the way that I did. Although I am ignorant, it's not like i've been in game development and customer relations for ten years now.
Lock this thread please.
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Post subject: Re: i don't wanna be rude... Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:10 pm |
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SoBlu wrote: But leave when the fun is gone, dont troll till the world is dead.
-Be yourself, there is nothing else to close to the truth.
oh yeah ................. /Is true.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:14 pm |
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Why so harsh Nokturne.
You being emo as well? You applaud the e-penis but tell me to take a hike, so I will, if my thoughts arent welcome u arent worth time for the debate.
Watch your language next time, you have quite the temper.
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Post subject: well Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:30 pm |
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Well, deleting like 50 posts from a thread without a warning or without any explanation just because you got angry and have not a better idea it's not very professional.
And since when a person is smart or not judging by the size of the penis? Dude, that is not good even for a toilet joke...
And about the posts deleted, yeah the mighty lord MD did that. I am not saying he is an idiot or so, just that he gives us reasons to consider him so.
And the bad thing in that quote was that MD answered that to a guy that asked why should he keep playing iSRO...Answering like that is not the job of a forum moderator that works for a corporation.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:48 pm |
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Lol.. get over yourself Blu.
You were welcome until you started using irrelevant and moronic insults towards Nokturne. We are TRYING to improve our game experience, you're more than welcome to sit by and just accept things how they are.
We have every right to do what we want, and you got off of the main subject anyway, so Nokturne had every right to say those things.
That, and you obviously didn't read the 'no flaming'. This thread is turning into a flame war, so I as well vote for a lock.
Anyway, I'm home from surgery and i'm finishing my letter as we speak. As far as I know, 42 people have joined in on this. Thank you all for at least giving it a try, as pointless as it may seem.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:01 pm |
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My rebuttal was only in conjunction with replies to my first accepted statement.
And if you accept it once, you accept the rest, don't flip flop.
OnTopic:
I just checked sro.net forums, yea you guys are real productive.
Good luck on your demand for civil rights...I mean this letter to Joymax for a better game.

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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:06 pm |
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Geeze you guys must really like Silkroad enough to protest. I mean, Acclaim GM's playing another game? wow.... Acclaim complaining about another game company? wow..
Thats like a 16 year old kid who works for Burger King standing outside of McDonalds telling customers that their burgers are better because they are flame broiled.
*Ding* Fries are done *Ding* Fries are done. I gotta run. I gotta run. I work at Burger King making Flame-broiled whoppers. I wear pa-per hats, would you like an apple pie with tha-at? would you like apple pie with tha-at?
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Post subject: god Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:07 pm |
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God, there is something very weird going on on the official Forum.
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