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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:57 am 
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one point to add which is simple to understand.

a boter grindin on the mobs is no different than a legit stalling.

both of these being dun over night while player sleeps maybe. and both take 1 spot on server.


understand that.

and i dnt need to strenghten the statement. its all on the OP. if ur blind then the opticians might be for u


HERE you go wrong. Now you calling about "spots" it aints spots it is server traffic. Thats something else.

And stop cursing it makes people pissed.

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w00t lmao? spots are wat u take to creat server traffic so wot u talking about...

me cursing? i mad e topic. people start to flame . then i start to flame. thats unfair?

simply. go ask many bot guild "why do u all bot cos it makes server traffic?"

they will laugh at you for a while.

they all no boting dont make traffic.

if u dont no this then u FTL

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me cursing? i mad e topic. people start to flame . then i start to flame. thats unfair?

simply. go ask many bot guild "why do u all bot cos it makes server traffic?"

they will laugh at you for a while.

they all no boting dont make traffic.

if u dont no this then u FTL


Explane server traffic for me.. what is it?

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jleyens wrote:
me cursing? i mad e topic. people start to flame . then i start to flame. thats unfair?

simply. go ask many bot guild "why do u all bot cos it makes server traffic?"

they will laugh at you for a while.

they all no boting dont make traffic.

if u dont no this then u FTL

i still want you to answer my posts. dont ignore me pls. :love:

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id happily answer it but id just be copy and pasting what i said on OP......

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 Post subject: Re: PLAYER BOTTERS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM AT ALL.! READ WHY
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DO U UNDERSTAND my point ?????


No, I dont understand your point at all. It's based on botters opinion.

The traffic is still mainly due to overload by bots. Why? Well, how long do you think your "bob 1" can survive without his bot? 1h, 2h ,12h, 1d or 2days after that he will quit because now he actually will have to play the game what includes getting your levels by hand. Not to mention the amount of population being bots I would estimate to be around 60-80%(lvl.1-80) per server.

Stalls hardly use any server bandwidth because first of all there is no movement to track so the player remains idle, no mobs around for aggro or to attack and no skills are being used. Only thing is stall uses is idle bandwidth and if player enters the stall. If you "lag" in town go upgrade your pc or live with it, but never ever compare this to bots.

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how long do you think your "bob 1" can survive without his bot? 1h, 2h ,12h, 1d or 2days after that he will quit because now he actually will have to play the game what includes getting your levels by hand.


u said it urself.. if u didnt bot u would have to hand grind......

SO WHAT. you are STILL on the server.. STILL taking the same spot. still online. still adding to traffic

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This game isnt made for people that are grinding 24/7. Look at the grinding places there are to much botters right now. So what has this to do with the server traffic.

You have to know that when you make a game you have to think about a couple of things. One of those is, what about the server traffic?

SRO chose for AFK stalling what is allowd. So this aint a problem with the server traffic. AFK grinding (botting) isnt allowd because it causes more server traffic.

NExt: stalls are spec designd for AFK. You only load the character (where it stands, visual) + stall name. When you click on the stall the content will load at that time.

What about grinding (botters)
Normal without botters i have to load 3 persons, what they are doing (where they walk, what they wearing enc), howmuch dmg they do, there wolf, howmuch dmg enc enc. Well this is a server traffic for (example) 3kbs.

Alright, now im with the botters. More chars arround me, dmn 7 botters here. Calculate the server traffic....

So stallers isnt the problem (its what MD told us 100000 times) they dont use much server traffic. It are the botters that causes it.

When the big bot list came out, the servers where populated. This is because the botters where banned not stallers.

yeah that's true, so ur talking sh*t jleyens, the botters cause server traffic NOT stalllers...

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So... now your saying that hand grinders, AND stallers, AND botters out? Man wat are you trying to say?

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who's the 16 year old kidde? :roll:

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So... now your saying that hand grinders, AND stallers, AND botters out? Man wat are you trying to say?


Nooooooow i get it. He's making this topic to make us stallers/botters/legits log out so he can be for himself. :shock:

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Botters send shitloads of packets to the servers.

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@ jleyens o.O you have hard time to explaine now about yours topic..LMAO so keep going ........

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thats ur opinion,

my opinion is "it doesnt make a difference what ur doing on the game"

if ur on your on

if ur on your taking a server spot

a bot takes a spot
a legit takes a spot

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and dnt say im talking shit. its all opinions. all bot people i hav spoken to agree and so do many many others.

ur opinion doesnt make it right. the majority does and the majority go with me . soz

and uve never seen posts about people saying stallers cause the traffic 0_o

where hav u been

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@ jleyens o.O you have hard time to explaine now about yours topic..LMAO so keep going ........

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He's explaining that stallers cause more traffic than botters. Then he changes his idea and says that botters and stallers are the samen taking up spots, thus proving himself wrong. I'm like wtf? Then he says botters, stallers AND handgrinders are the same in every way in taking up spots. I'm confused as to what point he's trying to prove.

:? :? :? :? :? :?

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lol?

when did i change my mind or say they cause same traffic. i said stallers cause more in th OP i didnt change that lol

making things up in your head isnt clever

i say legit =1 spot
bot=1 spot
that isnt not me saying they cause same traffic noob.

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Shiz, I don't know whether to wait for a post to go after mine, or to double post cause so many replies are coming =.=

You were calling us non-intelligent 16 year olds. So that's not talking shit? Mayne watchu sayin?!?!?!

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lol?

when did i change my mind or say they cause same traffic. i said stallers cause more in th OP i didnt change that lol

making things up in your head isnt clever

i say legit =1 spot
bot=1 spot
that isnt not me saying they cause same traffic noob.

lol same thing:

1. i said stallers cause more
2. legit =1spot bot=1spot

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yea i said if ur 16 i dnt expect u to understand the OP. afterall u guys asked me to explain it. not me

and to change this to flame on ages just goes to show u ARE a kid.

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and for the very first person to post a reply to AGREE with me. well i guesim talking shit lol. not

maybe u lot are staller and obviousl dnt like bots. therfor u will obviously disagree with me. its expected. so chill

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1 person agree's --> he's right

WTFZOR!?!

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You people are going to complain and argue about this crap till the day the universe explodes...

There is no solution to this other than you:

A. STFU and deal with it.
B. Quit, go play another game.
C. Kill yourself for being retarded and complaining/arguing over meaningless shit.

...pick an option...I dare you!

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omg ur still making things up in ur head. i didnt say that one person agreeing makes me right. i said it means im not talking total shit..

if i was then no one would think the same

lol. ur like my sister. makes shit up just to make arguments

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lol?

when did i change my mind or say they cause same traffic. i said stallers cause more in th OP i didnt change that lol

making things up in your head isnt clever

i say legit =1 spot
bot=1 spot
that isnt not me saying they cause same traffic noob.

lol same thing:

1. i said stallers cause more
2. legit =1spot bot=1spot


+1 Reading comprehension for the win (Yeah I actually spelled it out. IM Text ftl! I mean for the lose! :D)

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You people are going to complain and argue about this crap till the day the universe explodes...

There is no solution to this other than you:

A. STFU and deal with it.
B. Quit, go play another game.
C. Kill yourself for being retarded and complaining/arguing over meaningless shit.

...pick an option...I dare you!


I picked B a LONG LONG time ago. Now you're turn :P :D

Hey, since when was freedom of speech abolished. I'm merely proving my point. I'm not even flaming him. Yet, he calls people noobs and 16 year olds for some apparent reason.

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you left the important fact that real people who bots also gets a higher chance of getting a sox, and the fact they got to their lvl by cheating.


when BOB1 gets a sox he can sell it and get tons of money and dont need to worry about his economic situation. While BOB2 who grinds only hope for lots of drop in the bot infested sniper area.

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omg ur still making things up in ur head. i didnt say that one person agreeing makes me right. i said it means im not talking total shit..

if i was then no one would think the same

lol. ur like my sister. makes shit up just to make arguments

PUNK'D! I am your sister.

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there arent ''spots'' in sro, some games have but sro dont.
so u cant say that botters and stallers are the same...

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yes yes i said b4 i agree abuot sox and ect. but this is about traffic. nuthing more.

wih sox drops and econy boosts that is a diff story

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jeees. ok. when i say spots i dnt mean literally. butas we all no the server has a capacity....

i use the term spot as 1 person logs in and adds 1 to the capacity. no??

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