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ping_lo
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:38 pm |
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Fly wrote: joymax is smart. they dont sell items and tickets. they sell silk. as soon as the silk is dilivered to your account, you got what you paid for.anything you do with that silk, is your own problem. if you use it on an item that you cant use due to log in problems, that is your loss. they delivered the silk that you bought.
Incorrect. A more apt analogy is that buying silk is a currency exchange. The silk in and of itself technically has no real value. No one buys silk for the purpose of just having silk. It is what can be done with it that is at issue. Joymax willingly selling you services via their silk currency that they know you will not be able to use due to their own neglect is at best false advertisement if not outright fraud. Fly wrote: sueing them would be like sueing a car dealership for selling you a car, which you then cant drive because you cant afford gas. That is a bad analogy or a red herring as it is sometimes called. It is in fact not at all like that. You bought the silk so apparently you can afford the gas. To stick with the car metaphor and try to do it better. It would be like leasing a car from a dealer which also owned the roads. As part of the lease agreement is is understood that you will be given free access to said roads. But instead you are limited getting on the roads to 1 hour a day or so. If you happen to take a wrong exit or need to make a pit stop you have to wait till the next day to try and get on again. Fly wrote: if you guys really want to fix this game, load up a camal and do a trade run. if enough people do that = game fixed. its that simple.
Impossible. The problem as it exists now is that there are so many gold bots on the server that it is often nearly impossible for gold buyers to get on the game to even get the gold they bought. Let alone legitimate players to do a trade. Though I must say with the decrease of actual people on the server alot more have gotten more adventurous and are running multistars. I have gotten 2-3 multi the last several nights I managed to get on.
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BlackFox
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:05 pm |
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TwelveEleven wrote: If blackfox were to say that it would be so funny!  Hehehehe 
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PureOwnage
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:57 pm |
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ping_lo wrote: Fly wrote: they dont sell items and tickets. they sell silk. as soon as the silk is dilivered to your account, you got what you paid for.anything you do with that silk, is your own problem.
Incorrect. Joymax willingly selling you services via their silk currency that they know you will not be able to use due to their own neglect is at best false advertisement if not outright fraud. Fly wrote: sueing them would be like sueing a car dealership for selling you a car, which you then cant drive because you cant afford gas. That is a bad analogy or a red herring as it is sometimes called. Fly wrote: if you guys really want to fix this game, load up a camal and do a trade run. if enough people do that = game fixed. its that simple. Impossible.
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:06 am |
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Read =.=.
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fena
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:08 am |
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DarkJackal wrote: Read =.=.
My dad never taught me how to read. Then I went blind.
Now you're just being mean, Mr. Jackal. 
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BlackFox
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:10 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: DarkJackal wrote: Read =.=. My dad never taught me how to read. Then I went blind. Now you're just being mean, Mr. Jackal.  You know he Is 100% evil LOL /sarcasm
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gypsyking
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Post subject: time wasteing Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:14 pm |
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o0muffins0o
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:43 pm |
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sry if i was just bein stupid or somethin...im just really pissed off at joymax because i cant play anymore due to "server inspection" error...and im freakin addicted to silkroad =\
and yea i shouldve known better that that petition would've never worked...but there IS lots of reasons for it to be sued. just think about it.
Last edited by o0muffins0o on Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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sexy
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:54 pm |
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o0muffins0o wrote: sry if i was just bein stupid or somethin...im just really pissed off at joymax because i cant play anymore due to "server inspection" error...and im freakin addicted to silkroad =\ it.
lol that's your fault you can't play
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Donnie Baker
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:11 pm |
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The games a joke anyway so who gives a shit weather they get sued or not. Try a game thats a little more challenging like bingo or tic tac toe.
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Diz
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Post subject: Re: SUE JOYMAX!!! Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:10 pm |
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o0muffins0o wrote: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/978723855
Don't you know that petitions almost never work. Wow look a bunch of people want us to stop doing something that you never even mentioned, like i care as long as im profiting from it why should a list of all these signitures stop me? How can they stop me? Anyway, an online petition? Ha what a joke, i doubt half those are even real people and with online petitions you can add a different name to it every minute or so, there goes your petition lol. 
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judaiskariot
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:50 pm |
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Diz you should realy read previous posts before posting something new.
I wrote the explanation on previous page go look for it..
and regarding Donnie Baker's post: nice going dude, for your 1 post.
Well you know what they say first impresion is most importing one, so in your case you should have farted instead of writing that..
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Phantasia
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Post subject: lol Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:39 am |
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Lol, the petition is just a warning. Something like "improve, idiots, or else!".
When the petition first came into discussion in this forum ppl were like "omg, what a retard, no one can sue JM". Now someone else says it's perfectly possible.Come on, ppl and companies were sued for even less reasons.
So yeah, it's perfectly possible to sue JM and win.
Btw, I know the dude that made the petition and I know that right now he and his lawyer are working on the case. Of course, they will never come and publish the evidences they have on a forum, so let's wait and see what it happens. In the end, someone will be richer and happier just cause that someone was a bit smarter and has more balls than the rest of us.
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GaMeOvEr
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:44 am |
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Fly wrote: ping_lo wrote: What lawyer told you that joymax can't be sued? None I am sure. And I don't care what Key-j says. Sure if you never bought silk you may as well just STFU. But anyone who has bought silk can and would be well within their right to sue Joymax. People have won lawsuits with less justification. Joymax is liable for selling timed items such as non-premium tickets or pets and not taking "reasonable" action to see that you can use it. They are in fact using neglection of their duties as a means to drive sales of premium items. Joymax is quite liable. joymax is smart. they dont sell items and tickets. they sell silk. as soon as the silk is dilivered to your account, you got what you paid for. anything you do with that silk, is your own problem. if you use it on an item that you cant use due to log in problems, that is your loss. they delivered the silk that you bought. +1 for joymax sueing them would be like sueing a car dealership for selling you a car, which you then cant drive because you cant afford gas. if you guys really want to fix this game, load up a camal and do a trade run. if enough people do that = game fixed. its that simple.
good point there you hit the bulls eye..on the other hand..ping_lo threw the dart back at you  ..as for the camel..who wants to do one star trade runs?takes like 40 mins or so..2,3,4,5 stars?...say hello to lvl 80's 
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Juicy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:11 pm |
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Key-J wrote: Its been tried, there has been delogations about this. It wont work.
Also, there is no point to Sue them, just because you dont like it? Crazy.
It's a free game, a very good free game. Its not deniable, it has it's flas, but look under it. We see a great game
funny guy eh? well cant you see all the servers are full of bots and GayMax isnt doing anything about it.
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fena
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:14 pm |
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Juicy wrote: Key-J wrote: Its been tried, there has been delogations about this. It wont work.
Also, there is no point to Sue them, just because you dont like it? Crazy.
It's a free game, a very good free game. Its not deniable, it has it's flas, but look under it. We see a great game funny guy eh? well cant you see all the servers are full of bots and GayMax isnt doing anything about it.
That "funny guy" is a Mod, smartass.
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sexy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:20 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: Juicy wrote: Key-J wrote: Its been tried, there has been delogations about this. It wont work.
Also, there is no point to Sue them, just because you dont like it? Crazy.
It's a free game, a very good free game. Its not deniable, it has it's flas, but look under it. We see a great game funny guy eh? well cant you see all the servers are full of bots and GayMax isnt doing anything about it. That "funny guy" is a Mod, smartass.
so?
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Juicy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:21 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: Juicy wrote: Key-J wrote: Its been tried, there has been delogations about this. It wont work.
Also, there is no point to Sue them, just because you dont like it? Crazy.
It's a free game, a very good free game. Its not deniable, it has it's flas, but look under it. We see a great game funny guy eh? well cant you see all the servers are full of bots and GayMax isnt doing anything about it. That "funny guy" is a Mod, smartass.
i dont care... hes just a person that can tell people what to do on this forum and maybe even ban them, but no reason to ban me cuz i wrote something about Silkroad.
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fena
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:21 pm |
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sexy wrote: FenaCorp wrote: Juicy wrote: Key-J wrote: Its been tried, there has been delogations about this. It wont work.
Also, there is no point to Sue them, just because you dont like it? Crazy.
It's a free game, a very good free game. Its not deniable, it has it's flas, but look under it. We see a great game funny guy eh? well cant you see all the servers are full of bots and GayMax isnt doing anything about it. That "funny guy" is a Mod, smartass. so?
 So, you don't talk like that to a Mod.
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†erminal
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:22 pm |
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You don't *have* to buy silk
you don't *have* to play a game that charges you nothing
if jm charged you for silk you didn't buy that might be something but not banning botters? get over it...
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Key-J
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:29 pm |
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So, you should fear me! For I am Captain Underwear. FEAR MY ELASTICITY!!!
No, but for real. When its lil things like that, i dont mind personaly. I mean, as it was said before, Im a mod, but im also one of the guys. Yet, when the brown smelly thing hits the metal twirly thing, thats when i go big mod on yahz.
However, if you were to have been a bit more vulgar with your wording Juice, then you would have to answer to the rules:
Silkroad Forum Rules- Show respect for all moderators at all times.
O, and yes i see the the servers all have problems, but you are wrong when you say that JoyMax do nothing about it. They do do things, not only the things they let us in on. But also many things behind the scenes.
O, and yes this has been tried before. If you want some light reading, feel free to look at This Thread
Also, it could be noted the Topic starter's reaction to my reply. 
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fena
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:58 pm |
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Key-J wrote: Yet, when the brown smelly thing hits the metal twirly thing, thats when i go big mod on yahz. 
What do you mean? I honestly didn't get it. 
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†erminal
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:00 pm |
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When the shit hits the fan he gonna whoop some ass.

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fena
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:10 pm |
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†erminal wrote: When the shit hits the fan he gonna whoop some ass. 
L.O.L.
Got it.
That's gross.
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Key-J
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:27 pm |
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Well yeah, thats what i meant.
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judaiskariot
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:32 pm |
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Quote: So, you don't talk like that to a Mod.
bah kiss ass
well it needs little more for you to be banned or post delete..
isn't that right key-j
ref. see FuryAngle Vs Avalanche 
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