Warlock pvp

SomebodyFromTheMass · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 124

Pred wrote:

I think you have a different interpretation of defensive skills.

Pure INT Warlock will DIE in a a few hits from anything.
Low HP, Low Defense.

DOT's dont work unless your alive.
If a cleric uses holy spell which reduced all curse effects, your curses are useless.

That's dubious. If a Warrior casts absorb or def thingies on lock, nothing will kill it. You can't bash a build, just because others could kill it, with help.

boast · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 477 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

My 68 warlock does pretty well tbh.

got any vids?

So hard to find a warlock pvping

Pred wrote:

Pure INT Warlock will DIE in a a few hits from anything.
Low HP, Low Defense.

Yeah, thats why its ideal to have cleric as a sub to use bless spell

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Pred wrote:

I think you have a different interpretation of defensive skills.

Pure INT Warlock will DIE in a a few hits from anything.
Low HP, Low Defense.

DOT's dont work unless your alive.
If a cleric uses holy spell which reduced all curse effects, your curses are useless.

Not if you play smart use vampire touch and stun. Any pure int Euro will die in a few hits if they don't do anything.

DoT's also work if you or your opponent is in the safe zone.

Just as full time Clerics are a minority so are Warlocks. Holy Spell is nothing to worry about considering most won't get it. Even so, I think Panic still works and I know stun is still effective.

Crumpets wrote:

Ya .. lvl 68 with 3.5k hp :>

I wouldn't even PvP if my HP was that low...

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

boast wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

My 68 warlock does pretty well tbh.

got any vids?

So hard to find a warlock pvping

Pred wrote:

Pure INT Warlock will DIE in a a few hits from anything.
Low HP, Low Defense.

Yeah, thats why its ideal to have cleric as a sub to use bless spell

I'll make one when I get to 69. should be 1/2 days.

Knowing my luck only sun lvl 80's turn up .. lol.

Pred · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:27 pm

SomebodyFromTheMass wrote:

Pred wrote:

I think you have a different interpretation of defensive skills.

Pure INT Warlock will DIE in a a few hits from anything.
Low HP, Low Defense.

DOT's dont work unless your alive.
If a cleric uses holy spell which reduced all curse effects, your curses are useless.

That's dubious. If a Warrior casts absorb or def thingies on lock, nothing will kill it. You can't bash a build, just because others could kill it, with help.

I have a warlock. I know what it's capable of. Much higher level than 68 also.

Absorb what? It does damage reflection. You need to take damage to reflect damage. And even then its 35% probability. Everything is by chance. Even level 8 sleep/stun is not 100% effective.

Europeans work better in party play. Your better off supporting someone in a job war or something.

Pred · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:32 pm

Da_Realest wrote:

Pred wrote:

I think you have a different interpretation of defensive skills.

Pure INT Warlock will DIE in a a few hits from anything.
Low HP, Low Defense.

DOT's dont work unless your alive.
If a cleric uses holy spell which reduced all curse effects, your curses are useless.

Not if you play smart use vampire touch and stun. Any pure int Euro will die in a few hits if they don't do anything.

DoT's also work if you or your opponent is in the safe zone.

Just as full time Clerics are a minority so are Warlocks. Holy Spell is nothing to worry about considering most won't get it. Even so, I think Panic still works and I know stun is still effective.

Crumpets wrote:

Ya .. lvl 68 with 3.5k hp :>

I wouldn't even PvP if my HP was that low...

Right. when will you guys ever learn. PvP is about MAX HP & Defense.
Your defense with bless will only be 1500+ or so. Your HP is still the same. You can use 1 potion in the time it will take for you to die lol. I think you should actually build char character, play the character and then be disappointed with your theories.

Vampire Touch does not kill anyone (unless they are like level 30). Dusk armor absolute damage is fixed. Trap damage is fixed. You can only have 2 DOT skills on a person at each time which will also not kill anyone.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

Wait, who the hell are you to tell me when to pvp or not?

I do perfectly fine with no blues on my gear and no +'s. I kill most if not all 64-70's ... generally cause they have no clue wtf to do with 2 rows of unknown skills next to their name.

Please Pred, just cause you made some shitty 7X warlock, don't mean you speak for us all.

boast · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 477 **Location:**

Pred wrote:

SomebodyFromTheMass wrote:

I have a warlock. I know what it's capable of. Much higher level than 68 also.

what lvl. Did you stop playing it? (does it really suck that bad as a main?)

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Pred wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Pred wrote:

I think you have a different interpretation of defensive skills.

Pure INT Warlock will DIE in a a few hits from anything.
Low HP, Low Defense.

DOT's dont work unless your alive.
If a cleric uses holy spell which reduced all curse effects, your curses are useless.

Not if you play smart use vampire touch and stun. Any pure int Euro will die in a few hits if they don't do anything.

DoT's also work if you or your opponent is in the safe zone.

Just as full time Clerics are a minority so are Warlocks. Holy Spell is nothing to worry about considering most won't get it. Even so, I think Panic still works and I know stun is still effective.

Crumpets wrote:

Ya .. lvl 68 with 3.5k hp :>

I wouldn't even PvP if my HP was that low...

Right. when will you guys ever learn. PvP is about MAX HP & Defense.

Thats just your opinion.

Pred wrote:

Your defense with bless will only be 1500+ or so. Your HP is still the same.

Which def? Mag or phy? At my current level I got 5k hp. Plenty to kill anyone my level and survive critical hits.

Pred wrote:

You can use 1 potion in the time it will take for you to die lol. I think you should actually build char character, play the character and then be disappointed with your theories.

Thats why you use Vampire Touch. Theories? I'm speaking from experience.

Pred wrote:

Vampire Touch does not kill anyone (unless they are like level 30). Dusk armor absolute damage is fixed. Trap damage is fixed. You can only have 2 DOT skills on a person at each time which will also not kill anyone.

Its obvious you have that must do high damage in one hit mentality. Dusk Armor + DoT + Nuke + Panic is enough to bring down any build.

You can put more than 2 DoT skills on a person. I've done it before.

Crumpets wrote:

Wait, who the hell are you to tell me when to pvp or not?

Hmm? If you're referring to me, I didn't say that. I said I wouldn't pvp if my HP was that low...

Pred · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:45 pm

lol. The level is not that important. All you have to know is that it's above 72.

I stopped playing it because I got bored of playing support. The only characters I could ever kill is pure INT's 70 and below. With zero effort. Being in the PvP area annoying the crap out of other players with disease and other curses didnt work out too well. Warlocks are KoS<~ kill on sight.

Everyone can kill you in pvp if you do not
A: Block
B: Stun
C: Sleep

Reliance on skills to save you is a big nono. Just like how most Chinese characters rely on Snow shield.

Trap damage is fixed.
Dusk armor damage is fixed.

Try using vampiric touch. You'll just get hit. Your hp regen is too slow, and your hp is too low.

Pred · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:48 pm

5K hp? lol that's a joke.

You cannot survive any type of critical attack.
My rogue will hit you for 30k-50k
You cannot survive combo attacks. Or multiple hits with chances to critical.

CurseR · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:51 pm

I see warlock mainly as a great support char, so if you want a char just for pvp, don' t play warlock. It' s that simple :roll:

Pred · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:53 pm

CurseR wrote:

I see warlock mainly as a great support char, so if you want a char just for pvp, don' t play warlock. It' s that simple :roll:

yes. Two thumbs up.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

Wait, who the hell are you to tell me when to pvp or not?

Hmm? If you're referring to me, I didn't say that. I said I wouldn't pvp if my HP was that low...

No, was referring to know-it-all Pred.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Pred wrote:

5K hp? lol that's a joke.

You cannot survive any type of critical attack.
My rogue will hit you for 30k-50k
You cannot survive combo attacks. Or multiple hits with chances to critical.

Just what I thought. You only care about big numbers. Besides, any Pure Int of any race has trouble against rogues. You're only a threat if you're invisible and sneak attack. If you're visible with Dagger Desperate or Crossbow Extreme, you're dead. Its even easier if you don't have them activated. I'm also not a person with the all about me mentality. Even if I die, as long as you have a few debuffs on you or you wasted a few seconds to take me out, my effort was worth it.

Crumpets wrote:

Wait, who the hell are you to tell me when to pvp or not?

I do perfectly fine with no blues on my gear and no +'s. I kill most if not all 64-70's ... generally cause they have no clue wtf to do with 2 rows of unknown skills next to their name.

Oh, ok.

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