Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:19 am
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This is a 2 year old thread..that's what my post was referring too. Kinda neat he dug it up though.
My opinion: I don't care enough on matters like this to have an opinion really, but if I speak it I could be flamed. Ok, if you're not botting you're not botting. Taking advantage of the situation maybe?
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:48 am
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Can't really say it's not legit in this game.
In most servers it's hard to find share parties that don't have a bot or 4.
Unless your just sittin there letting em lvl you, you are still doing your part, lvling them up too.
Not to sound like i'm defending it, I don't wanna party with bots, but i'v found myself plenty of times looking for a share party there only being some with random ppl that included some others I knew for sure that botted. I didn't always join em, but still.
Bots in parties suck though anyway, they always do their own thing, whenever theres a pt giant or something, they are just goin around atking normal mobs.
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:21 am
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Aventuris wrote:
Rofl, definatly NOT legit. Funny how half the people in this thread were banned for being botters. So no it is not legit. Being legit means grinding your main in a share party that every1 actively participates in. If you party with a bot, you might just as well bot yourself...
1 small problem with what you say. Go to roc mountain, go to grind on rocks or attackers. its close to IMPOSSIBLE to grind decently. The ONLY way to have a nice run is to join a share party! I am lvl 88, and I handgrinded my way to that. I am against botting. But 98% of the server is botting, you can't avoid it. I stay true to myself and I wont go afk in a share party (ok if I have to pee or get a drink quickly then i go afk for a minute). I consider myself legit, I do not use multi clients, I do not buy gold, I do not bot. But at some point you have no other way then to "abuse" botting parties because there are simply No full legit grind parties around.
So my opinion, going afk yourself for hours while in a share party with botters = not legit. Handgrinding and doing your part on the grindsession = legit.
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:24 am
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Aventuris wrote:
It is close to legit but not legit. Players on Venus, grinding by hand 1->90 in active share parties, those are 100% legits
Grats for Venus. On other servers, legits aren't in charge, so we have to make due with what we have. If we see the chance to exploit a bot, we take it. Venus =/= all other servers.
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Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:21 am
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Blue_Witch wrote:
I am against botting. But 98% of the server is botting, you can't avoid it. I stay true to myself and I wont go afk in a share party (ok if I have to pee or get a drink quickly then i go afk for a minute). I consider myself legit, I do not use multi clients, I do not buy gold, I do not bot. But at some point you have no other way then to "abuse" botting parties because there are simply No full legit grind parties around.
So my opinion, going afk yourself for hours while in a share party with botters = not legit. Handgrinding and doing your part on the grindsession = legit.
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Aventuris wrote:
It is close to legit but not legit. Players on Venus, grinding by hand 1->90 in active share parties, those are 100% legits
Grats for Venus. On other servers, legits aren't in charge, so we have to make due with what we have. If we see the chance to exploit a bot, we take it. Venus =/= all other servers.
Agreed. In fact not only is it like that on Xian, but legits won't even party you if you AREN'T a Euro! And THAT is what made Xian a toilet in my book and helped me to quit~
What you said imho is fine... You're grinding in the party doing your part. You cannot be held responsible in that situation for the actions of others..
BotPlvl on the other hand is just stupid. It shows you want to bot but are either too afraid, don't know how or just plain don't have the means to (income).
Botplvl'ing is just plain botting... Making lame exucse "Oh, i was stealing his exp! Not for my own benefit but to disadvantage him!" is just stupid =.=''. That is all it is, a lame excuse and nothing more.
You gain exp from being afk and also via a bot. There is HARDLY a difference between BotPlvl and actually botting.
The last bit isn't my oppinion, it's fact.
+1 I agree on that, if you really feel the need to exploit the botters and be in a party with them that just mean you wanna have a bot but you just can' afford it
What you said imho is fine... You're grinding in the party doing your part. You cannot be held responsible in that situation for the actions of others..
BotPlvl on the other hand is just stupid. It shows you want to bot but are either too afraid, don't know how or just plain don't have the means to (income).
Botplvl'ing is just plain botting... Making lame exucse "Oh, i was stealing his exp! Not for my own benefit but to disadvantage him!" is just stupid =.=''. That is all it is, a lame excuse and nothing more.
You gain exp from being afk and also via a bot. There is HARDLY a difference between BotPlvl and actually botting.
The last bit isn't my oppinion, it's fact.
+1 I agree on that, if you really feel the need to exploit the botters and be in a party with them that just mean you wanna have a bot but you just can' afford it
That's just BS...
You guys sound like horses with blinds.
Botters won't stop botting because you don't receive plvl from them, they won't even care... So why not just enjoy free plvl?
if you are killing as well such as wing tribe attack partys then its pretty fair imo. i mean sometime or another you will join a party with a bot in it unfortunatly. if you are killing as a party and they are just botting then so be it.
however going afk for any longer then toilet or drink is a BOT PLVL in which is not legit.
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:08 am
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It's like when in real life a thief steals something from a store and gives you a part of it. You didn't do anything but it's still a crime. I really don't wanna take this game to seriously but you have to understand the difference of being legit and unlegit. If you stay in the party and continue playing like before i'll consider it unlegit but that's not really the worst thing you can do, nobody will call you a botter for that, but if you go afk and let the bots level you, that's the same as botting
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:50 am
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DonBebek wrote:
It's like when in real life a thief steals something from a store and gives you a part of it. You didn't do anything but it's still a crime. I really don't wanna take this game to seriously but you have to understand the difference of being legit and unlegit. If you stay in the party and continue playing like before i'll consider it unlegit but that's not really the worst thing you can do, nobody will call you a botter for that, but if you go afk and let the bots level you, that's the same as botting
Except in real life thieves AREN'T 95% of the world population, police actually arrests thieves.
And I think all this "OMG BOT PLVL'D, U NOT LEGIT" is just bullshit...
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:51 am
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Its funny to see all those wannabe "legits" how they respond to threads like this. Flaming each other for partying with bots and other shit when in fact 98% of this forum bots. I know few well respected posters here that bots, but honestly I dont give a fuck.
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Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:10 pm
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There's nothing you can really do about it. Are you going to boycot every single party if everyone in the party isn't legit? On older servers, there are more bots than legits, so it's either you don't party with anyone or you suck it up and deal with it.
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Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:18 pm
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PocketSunshine wrote:
There's nothing you can really do about it. Are you going to boycot every single party if everyone in the party isn't legit? On older servers, there are more bots than legits, so it's either you don't party with anyone or you suck it up and deal with it.
It seems most of the people opposing this don't see that, unfortunately.
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:31 pm
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Leeching from bots is theoretically not legit in my opinion because it's indirectly getting exp from a program. A lot of bot guilds have resorted to botting up one or two high level characters and then using that bot to plvl their people up, so there will be no chance of getting banned by JM.
I guess if you are putting your effort into the share pt you are ok, but I don't see why you would want to be in a pt with something that won't help or talk with you.
Powerlvl/leech is different then share party with bots.
If you just sit and do nothing then a program is still lvling for you, if you are in a pt lvling with them, it's not like they are lvling you like that.
Post subject: Re: Share Parties with 'Afk' players
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:42 pm
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well DJ
im prolly one of the biggest legits here and lol
here are my standars for "legitness"
if they bot then there asshole
if they use loader then there just stupid asses
if they get plvled by a bot there not to bad. how ever i can see why you would make that connection. however i still view being plvled this way to be "legit" hell even i have stuff to do other than to lvl my self and anyway most "legits" do get pfarmed for free at lvl 1-15 anyway im going offtrack a bit.
btw if you use multi client then your the biggest asshole in the game and you should be shot
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