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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:27 pm 
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The main reason is snow shield is mainly for int based builds. Snow shield on str builds will end up making them not being able to attack from the mp drain.
Now when people build a char they have 2 things in mind.
1. High HP/low damage attacks(str)
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2. Low hp/high damage attack(int)
When you pick Int you generally level faster(easy). Str takes years to level(harder). Now when the easily leveled int player gets a skill that makes their build 100 times better is not fair. The only way to kill a Level 80 ice snow shield in 1v1 pvp is with a sosun for str's. They wanted low hp/high attack...thats what they should get. It makes all pure str build basically a mistake without a skill to counter it.

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:32 pm 
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MiKe 51-50 wrote:
The main reason is snow shield is mainly for int based builds. Snow shield on str builds will end up making them not being able to attack from the mp drain.
Now when people build a char they have 2 things in mind.
1. High HP/low damage attacks(str)
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2. Low hp/high damage attack(int)
When you pick Int you generally level faster(easy). Str takes years to level(harder). Now when the easily leveled int player gets a skill that makes their build 100 times better is not fair. The only way to kill a Level 80 ice snow shield in 1v1 pvp is with a sosun for str's. They wanted low hp/high attack...thats what they should get. It makes all pure str build basically a mistake without a skill to counter it.
hehe change after rereading whole post...if str can't kill an int with mana shield they shouldn't be a str. And I must admitt a glavier repeating spamming sse and spin can be out stragetize by ints nowadays seeing as mana shield gives them that extra time to figure out what to do.

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:52 pm 
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If it makes you feel better, I am an - almost fully farmed - glaiver, and I never bitch at INTs using the snow shield. The thing is, I still rarely lose to them (I have a high crit glaive).

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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most glaivers i pvped with in Oasis needs mana/snow shield... the moment i start my shield they will use theirs as well....
but;s it's funny when they ran out of mp even when they use X large.

and int needs to kil fast (within the shield period)before they are dead hehehehe....

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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Best is when your pvping someone and your in snow, and a level 20 noob lionshouts the STR your pvping, then you kill him, he says "noobs 2 on 1"

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:52 am 
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TRUE....i get a lot of names when i use snow :(

it's like asking glaivers can you dont use mars?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:09 am 
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TRUE....i get a lot of names when i use snow :(

it's like asking glaivers can you dont use mars?


I think its more like, "can you not use soul spear emperor" ;)

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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i just think its funny when ints get called noobs for using snow shield but they call euros noobs for using bless :S


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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:39 am 
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because they need an excuse for loosing.. and or being an asss hole

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:04 am 
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I dont whine. I just try to stay alive for two minutes before i worry about killing

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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jarrod wrote:
most glaivers i pvped with in Oasis needs mana/snow shield... the moment i start my shield they will use theirs as well....
but;s it's funny when they ran out of mp even when they use X large.

and int needs to kil fast (within the shield period)before they are dead hehehehe....


Im a full str glaive level 80 and I have snow shield at 20%, I barely use it in 1v1 pvp situations unless they do alot of damage. Ive never had my mp go so low that I can't use a skill. Honestly I think this is something that ints make up so they can make fun of full str's for having it.

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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loveisintheair wrote:
Hero wrote:
TRUE....i get a lot of names when i use snow :(

it's like asking glaivers can you dont use mars?


I think its more like, "can you not use soul spear emperor" ;)


You are both comparing a weapon skill too a force skill :roll:

I am a str char and if I see an int char pop mana shield I sometimes pop it after them, use it as a time counter too when they will die :P

But I must say I sometimes die too int chars in a fair match it depends on the situation I guess + I dont pretend too be superwoman :D

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:18 am 
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when i use it they go "Snow? " and im like yeah?

you have 22khp and i have less than 9k and you want me to pvp with you with out snow lol

i can take a few hits without snow prob like 3-4 LOL

but most of the time i dont use snow shield on pvp i just use ironshield from bicheon and for 15 i just nuke them :P

and using snow 50% +ironshield i can prob take more than 5 peeps but idk =P

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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i never complain if ints put up their snow shield
infact, if they dont put up their snow shield i feel that hes going easy on me, and if i win i feel like i dont deserve it b/c he didnt put any effort into pvping me

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:29 am 
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ZOMG SNOW NUUUUB PAWK YEH NUUUB SHlT NUBBBBB...
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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:37 am 
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STR: ROFL YOU USE SNOW SHIELD YOU NOOB
INT: So?, you can use it too
STR: I'M A STR STUPID
INT: WELL I'M A F**KING INT STUPID ^&!#%!@*$&^@!$& ^@!*$&^!@ RETARD

I came across that chat when i was outside dw between a str that got owned by an int. I reckon the int dam well have a point.

btw, the str supposedly shut up and went away

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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Pure str always crying about smth like this:
You using KD, you using Iron Wall Shield, your gear is better. After update (with snow shield) Int chars become much stonger. Im In and glad to be one ^^

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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Snowshield is just a buff that any build can use, not just ints. It might suit ints better but meh...

I dislike it if people use snowshield in a 1 on 1 when we are evenly matched, but most of the time we agree on not using snow shield and me not using fire wall. If they use snowshield, I use fire wall. Wich will absorbe 1 nuke, wich gives me the time to pot up. Suggest more strs use it ^^.

However in a pvp without rules, I tend to shoot, phantom walk, cast fire wall, shoot, etc, etc. But then I get flamed by people for being a runner :(. Oi! Lemme use the advantages of meh bow!

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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You cant say your evenly match when you are str vs int

and not if you are glavie and have 22k+hp and int has less than 10k and dont say int hits you harder cuz most 80farm s/s ints with normal +5 set hit glaviers like 8-9k and a glavier can just 3-4 hit the inter...

when i dont use snow on pvp i just phantom away when in stun or a high crit i get a chance to nuke like 2 times before it gets to me

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:38 pm 
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People take the game serious.
Most of the people that go 'n whine after they lose have nothing to do at all in real-life.
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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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i hate that. whenever i pvp with snowshield. the guy who loses always has to cry about it snow shield.
i beat this blader yesterday. 15-2
and he kept going "YOU NOOB HAHA YOU USE MaNA SHIELD!!"

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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Im a pure str glavie most of the time i dont lose to a pure int snow shield user. Unless hes using a sosun shield or weapon i wont lose but heres a tip for pure str glaviers. spam Soul Spear emperor and hope for a stun and just wait the 2 minute shield limit out. Once that is over 2-3skill him :D oh btw have XL pots and turn them on 90% lol but just wait it out

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:05 pm 
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Actualy, people that actualy say "Good fight" are almost extinct. The evolution of people is now:

When they Win:
OMG U R WEAK
HAHAHAHA NUB
LOL I SHIT IN U
LOL U R NOOB
I F*** UR MOTHER

When they Lose:
WTF STOP UZIN SNOWSIELD
SNOW SHIELDNOOB
LUCKY
OMG LUCKY
OMG CHEATER
OMG BOTTER
U R BOTTER
BOTTER
SNOWSHIELD
SNOWSHIELD
SNOWSHIELD

And it's getting worse and worst :(


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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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Lol....ill say lag or w/e when its true....but i wont spam it -.-

only time i get REALLY annoyed is when str glaivers have to use snow to tank a blader (me). I just laugh at them.

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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Sharpy wrote:
Im a pure str glavie most of the time i dont lose to a pure int snow shield user. Unless hes using a sosun shield or weapon i wont lose but heres a tip for pure str glaviers. spam Soul Spear emperor and hope for a stun and just wait the 2 minute shield limit out. Once that is over 2-3skill him :D oh btw have XL pots and turn them on 90% lol but just wait it out

i don't thinks so. let's see nukers on 72 lv trying to buy +7 stuff + 80 lv snow shield giving 50% dmg absorb, If nuker playin alot with alchemy he tryin to do his pro ( or other) gear with more def, and if he got pro gear 72 - 77 with 70% phy and mag def there is no way to kill him. But don't forget Iron wall shield and Knock downs. And if nuker use Light (main) + Bicheon(sub1) + cold (sub2) there's no way to kill him ^^

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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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72+ Wiz > cape > stealth > meteor + zerk > earth shock > meteor = all full sosun farmed 80 get 1 hit at the gate
Watch them cry then.

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