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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:24 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:09 am 
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Me and my friends are in Pacific server and living in the Philippines, Asian region. We adjusted our playing time to be able to skip peak server hours, we sleep earlier and be able to wake up 4AM in the morning, the time when all servers are already populated. I just noticed these past weeks even thou servers are mostly populated, xian and other older servers including pacific remained crowded at 3500 server cap, I'm just wondering how many BOTS are there in that 3500. :banghead:

I only buy silk for my pick pet atm, I just buy premium if i took a long vacation or december(many holidays)from work :D

PLEASE BAN BOTS : I missed the last time bots were gone.


95% of players who spend money for silk botters.
So jm prefers to lose the 5% legit ppl instead.
It's business.


What this guys says i believe is mostly true. it is a business and i cant for the life of me imagine joymax banning everyone that purchases silk. When they do ban people check the names, i bet most dont know any of them. The ones that get banned i bet use a clientless bot as well. As long as the money rolls in to joymax there is nothing wrong with the game.

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
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i dont rly mind when people r botting to lv up but when there just ksing everything for gold and
r afk for days on end that pisses me off and spammers

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:12 am 
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For those still too ignorant... the premo tickets ARE for the legit. They can't solve the bot problem... They either have to prevent the botters from botting or just leave them alone. They ban all the bots, and bye bye Silkroad. The premo ticket is a temporary solution for those that bitch about the crowded servers. Take it as it is.

Why is it bad to ban all bots? Sounds good to me!
All the legit people can't play because of all the bots spamming the servers!


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The risk to banning player bots are straightforward and should be obvious to most Legits: Joymax fears doing a massive banning of player bots because if they perform said ban there might be massive chargebacks, which would cause their [joymax's] agreement with paypal to be terminated. Meaning No way to collect money [other than credit, but the problem with credit is CCF] meaning Isro goes down.


They can ban the gold bots easy [if it weren't for the fact that their in cahoots with two gold selling companies: Click the second link in my sig :)]

Basically Joymax has spent so much time ignoring the problem that its near impossible to reverse it, without taking isro down with the bots.

sad ain't it, also click the first link in my sig.

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:41 am 
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The risk to banning player bots are straightforward and should be obvious to most Legits: Joymax fears doing a massive banning of player bots because if they perform said ban there might be massive chargebacks, which would cause their [joymax's] agreement with paypal to be terminated. Meaning No way to collect money [other than credit, but the problem with credit is CCF] meaning Isro goes down.



FINALLY, someone listens to what I've said a hundred times.

Bot ban = chargebacks = paypal dropping JM = no income to pay for the game = no game.
Until JM comes up with a payment method like Blizzard has for WoW, like direct payment of some sort, they'll go bankrupt if they do a bot ban.

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:58 am 
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yup i hate gold bots, and botters are okay, i just hate them flaunting how high they are.

oh i also don't like those peeps who show off how high they really fast due to power leveling. Lazy ass, but YES, THERE IS A HINT OF JEALOUSY THERE, who dont like getting power leveled.

oh lastly, i don't remember how to speak pinoy anymore, i mostly remember foods............ like lechon, kasava cake, fruit salad. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:04 am 
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Rikusaki wrote:
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For those still too ignorant... the premo tickets ARE for the legit. They can't solve the bot problem... They either have to prevent the botters from botting or just leave them alone. They ban all the bots, and bye bye Silkroad. The premo ticket is a temporary solution for those that bitch about the crowded servers. Take it as it is.

Why is it bad to ban all bots? Sounds good to me!
All the legit people can't play because of all the bots spamming the servers!
The botters are doing this on purpose!

Why would they have names like:

wtybqqy

ybnoinyb

qtnyqrn

along2034

along2056

along2045

along2037

twioyb

wtyi535

They are doing this so they can fill up the servers and so NOBODY can play!

They should all be IP banned.


It's true, the gold botters could be more easily taken care of, but there's two problems:

A: The shear volume of them
B: They'll just make more

And the problem with IP banning is three fold

A: You can change your IP
B: A lot of people play in cybers [ie... ban the ip branch, ban the whole cyber]
C: A lot of accounts are also played on multiple ips.

The bot problem is a lot more complex then some people claim it to be. Sure, I could go and ban myself a 1000 gold bots in a day, but the following day all 1000 will be back on new accounts...

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:07 pm 
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vindicated01 wrote:
mas maganda gumamit narin kayo ng bot para patas lahat gaya ko gumagamit na rin, dun ko na realize na ang gagaling ng mga taga joymax..


in english..
dont eva used bot , joymax will pwn you all.?? XD

no comment ako tol... ako din gumagamit pa ako noon hindi ko sasabihin anung version pero nakagamit ako :P

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I dont use bot instead i kill them :P

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:43 pm 
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Me and my friends are in Pacific server and living in the Philippines, Asian region. We adjusted our playing time to be able to skip peak server hours, we sleep earlier and be able to wake up 4AM in the morning


u are crazy :banghead:
i'm in ur timezone too (singapore) but mercury is good to log in
but anyway u really shldnt adjust your lifestyle and ur life clock juz for a game, seriously
not worth it to damager your health in the long run

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:12 pm 
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ok guys your solution to your problem go to one of this three server odin, mercury, and i think pluto i can get in them on when server traffic is at its peak. also ip ban would work like the guy says cause it is very easy to change it to a different one i have done it to make a extra 20 accounts to store elixirs. waiting for 90 cap to get rich.


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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:15 am 
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We adjusted our playing time to be able to skip peak server hours, we sleep earlier and be able to wake up 4AM in the morning
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:45 pm 
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Nyahgis wrote:
For those still too ignorant... the premo tickets ARE for the legit. They can't solve the bot problem... They either have to prevent the botters from botting or just leave them alone. They ban all the bots, and bye bye Silkroad. The premo ticket is a temporary solution for those that bitch about the crowded servers. Take it as it is.


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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:51 am 
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Stop complaining . Get used to it , live with it , makes ur life easier. Half of the posts in forums is people complaining about bots. How much more complaining will ya need to do before u understand that ur asking joymax to stop making money ?

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 Post subject: Re: When will be the NEXT BOT BANNING?!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:42 am 
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Joymax could somehow make it so the bot programs won't work anymore!
Then all the legit people can play and I can have more friends!

I only have 7 friends because 90% of the people are BOTS.

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Rikusaki wrote:
Joymax could somehow make it so the bot programs won't work anymore!
Then all the legit people can play and I can have more friends!

I only have 7 friends because 90% of the people are BOTS.


Dream on ...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:28 am 
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sama98b wrote:
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Joymax could somehow make it so the bot programs won't work anymore!
Then all the legit people can play and I can have more friends!

I only have 7 friends because 90% of the people are BOTS.


Dream on ...


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If they could, 90% of the population wouldn't bot. Joymax knows what the problems with their game are. They market this game and try to fix issues that might discourage others from joining and perhaps buying silk. The botting problem isn't that easy to resolve. For each countermeasure Joymax implements, the bot coders will create their own means to circumvent it. People scream thinks like punkbuster or steam's vac2, but even those would know that it isn't hard to aim or wall hack with these in place. The only way I could think to simply REDUCE [yes, reduce, not eliminate] the botting problem is by setting up an actual team of gms and start TEMP banning players caught botting for a week or so. It might not be too drastic, but if you got temp banned every other week for a week I bet you'd reconsider using the bot. [But even this would take considerable time and money. You would need a fairly large team of gms to monitor all the servers. 2 or 3 each shouldn't be too bad. Put a bug report in place in the game to report possible player bots needing investigation. Abuse of the system would also result in a 1 week temp ban.]

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Yeah.... they used to ban bots, those were the good days where you had many friends to play with.

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If we could figure out how to disconnect the bots form the servers, we could be doing that and letting the legit people play. :D :D :D


It can, i read it on SRF dunno where exactly, but what helps (tried it myself couple of times) is scamming the bot with a exchange, the times i tried the Dc'ed so try that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:20 pm 
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Stop complaining . Get used to it , live with it , makes ur life easier. Half of the posts in forums is people complaining about bots. How much more complaining will ya need to do before u understand that ur asking joymax to stop making money ?


Find me 20 posts :?

Edit: sry for the double posts...

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If we could figure out how to disconnect the bots form the servers, we could be doing that and letting the legit people play. :D :D :D


It can, i read it on SRF dunno where exactly, but what helps (tried it myself couple of times) is scamming the bot with a exchange, the times i tried the Dc'ed so try that.

ok ill try to do that

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Player bots = no big prob


Gold bots = ruin the server traffic / game / economy / balance of players (those who buy gold are unbeatable).

SO STOP BUYING GOLD YOU DUMB ASSES.

Just had to say that. The more gold you buy, the more you help them to mess up the game.

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man joymax jsut darn lazy thats all....gold bots filling up the flipping servers and then joymax get money..cuz poor us want to login and cant >.> so premium is our resort..well we buy prem anyways....take forever to get to 80 wivout it :shock:

I also think Nitrex is right if we went about getting gold the right way....there would be no need for gold botters...and so the game would be better...im stil waiting on the day when iSRO will be like cSRO..ALWAYS POPULATED :roll:

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