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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:17 pm 
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but, lower crit damage, and 1h has crit ratio passives. and I LOVE your signature omg. It makes me super jealous.

Yup, I love that about 1h!

and ty XDD

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If its fun to play, then thats all that matters. If you enjoy playing with your 2h/warlock then keep playing it the way you like to play your char.

+1!

That's really all that should matter, and why I enjoy my build so much. =]


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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:22 pm 
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If its fun to play, then thats all that matters. If you enjoy playing with your 2h/warlock then keep playing it the way you like to play your char.

TY. Pls talk to bakafish.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:32 pm 
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If its fun to play, then thats all that matters. If you enjoy playing with your 2h/warlock then keep playing it the way you like to play your char.

TY. Pls talk to bakafish.

Everybody plays differently. What motivates you to keep trying to log in without a premium on a weekend would be different to someone else. Anyone can comment honestly on why such and such is better, and at no bad intent. But better is a subjective term.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:59 am 
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Don't drag others in just cause I'm bashing on your Force Blader build. :P

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:10 am 
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Don't drag others in just cause I'm bashing on your Force Blader build. :P

YE WHEN IM lv80 I WILL RAPE YOUR WARRIOR/CLERIC.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:34 am 
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Holy Spell...

Only warlock skill you can land is stun and the one that does bleed...

It might be a fun build, toying around with your skills... But way off being the best build... For Euros, it's all about covering your weak bases, survivability first and foremost then efficiency...

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but just remember it's not about what others think, it's your game, your fun, Enjoy! :D

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:38 am 
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Warrior cleric + holy spell = immune to all your debuffs.
You lose.
2H is weak against 1H as well, all the KB will cancel maddening/dd and dull will screw you over if you dont have a lot of pills.
My fave is get them in stun (rush) then switch to 2H and maddening
But if you like your build keep going, it will own chinese, but probably lose to most euros.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
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Warrior cleric + holy spell = immune to all your debuffs.
You lose.


Not all...

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:42 am 
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hm 1h/warlock could outtank 1h/cleric...

just has to use sleep/stun/shield kb (you can use these repeating 1 after another since cooldown is fast enough)/reflect and shadow armor (absolute damages) do this until holyword/bless/recovery division is out then you are back to where you started


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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:44 am 
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afaik holy spell blocks all but bleed and stun. bleed = pill curable.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:05 am 
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the_wicked wrote:
Warrior cleric + holy spell = immune to all your debuffs.
You lose.


Not all...

Wheel Bind?

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:13 am 
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All this talk about 1h and 2h warrior/ clerics and warlocks. I'm making a Warrior that will use all wep skills with rogue. So they benfit from all the skills. Tell me it sucks, but how would you know if you haven't tried it. And if you did and think it sucks, then you admit to having a crappy char :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:17 am 
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Tell me it sucks, but how would you know if you haven't tried it. And if you did and think it sucks, then you admit to having a crappy char


I've got a full farmed lv 80 Warrior/Rogue...you will get raped more often than say Warrior/sub Cleric or Warlock or Rogue/sub Cleric or Warlock.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:17 am 
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Lol, its not best, its not most fun, you're not right..
No builds is "Teh Best", and no one is "Teh most fun".. -_-"
So you got a Warrior/Warlock, Good for you, but i dont like em, i think theyre boring ;)
In fact, i like old school chinese pvp's.. :)


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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:58 am 
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Tell me it sucks, but how would you know if you haven't tried it. And if you did and think it sucks, then you admit to having a crappy char


I've got a full farmed lv 80 Warrior/Rogue...you will get raped more often than say Warrior/sub Cleric or Warlock or Rogue/sub Cleric or Warlock.

nuff said.

I dun wanna get raped :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:59 am 
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Lol, its not best, its not most fun, you're not right..
No builds is "Teh Best", and no one is "Teh most fun".. -_-"
So you got a Warrior/Warlock, Good for you, but i dont like em, i think theyre boring ;)
In fact, i like old school chinese pvp's.. :)

It's all a matter of opinion and personal interest.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:45 am 
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Not best build but may be most fun... Oh and here I found some video with warrior/warlock 2h sword http://youtube.com/watch?v=fLEa-O-fs-w&feature=related
And I'm sure Chinese can own it with fire/ice walls so I wouldn't make that char. (loads of farming and pretty useless char) uniques+PvP means most for me. And like everyone said sub cleric can own that build easy. And nova series really helps too.


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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:43 am 
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Thanks for all the responses!
I'm gonna go back on what i said haha..I'll probably level both 1h and 2h. I didn't really know much about 1h till now, i took a closer look at the skills. What i do know is that playing with a sun glavier on Venice gets boring. You either get 1 hitted or you 1 hit euros. ighting other suns depends on who gets the most stuns. So boring lol..

anyway, 1h AND 2h/warlock ftw

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:54 am 
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you made a thread like this and youre not even 80?
the game hasnt even begun for you yet.
lvl 80 pvp is completely different, your life will become harder after 76 when people start getting holy spell.
and lol at your other post on another thread, it doesnt even sound like you'd know what to do with subwarlock, or even a warrior for that matter.
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Hey guys, im making a new char on Hera. I don't know whether to make it 1H or 2H though..I know more about 2H than i do about 1H, and im guessing the 2H skins would more than make up for the lack of a cleric sub?

Can someone explain 1H to me -- what def buffs it has, advantages/disadvantages etc. Or link me to a 1h guide? ty

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:01 am 
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i did research lol

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:18 am 
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Fire wall is for mag dmg...And warrior is pure phy dmg so wont the dmg go right through it? lolz

I think 1h/warlock is better (Becuz you will only have to switch weapon (both wield a shield :P ) and the attacks are faster..

But guys who said frost nova..If you can stun from a distance, then do vampire kiss/touch followed by division and that phy def decrease one and then sleep..switch to 2hand and do daredevil...unless someone gets a double block...Hes dead, so Farking dead.
Thats not the point of the Fire Wall. Its to disable the Warlock skills. Against walls, Warlock debuffs don't work, stuns don't work, sleep doesn't work, hp leech skills also don't work, and bloody trap doesn't work. And from my understanding, you can't be Kded or knockbacked if you have a wall up.


Never knew that :o

But if he has fire wall up just ignore him..He cant do shit either when he's in there (unless its a nuker/bower, but then just stay out of range lol), he cant stay for ever in the wall...

@SoaKill...Even if disease fails you still have a chance to debuff them because the succesrate is still high enough when you are the same lvl. And AFAIK are the debuffs maxed a bit higher then the maxed holy word/spell so ;)

/Edit: Holy spell lvl 1 is lvl 8 reduce. And debuffs are lvl 8 too maxed at 80 so I dunno what happens then..Nvm what I said ;D

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
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Why does everyone say "2h > 1h?" They are both a part of the warrior tree, you should completely max everything in the warrior tree and use both if not all 3 weapons that are there to offer. god dam.


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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
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Why does everyone say "2h > 1h?" They are both a part of the warrior tree, you should completely max everything in the warrior tree and use both if not all 3 weapons that are there to offer. god dam.


You're right but I guess they dont like to switch weapons, and ofcourse the sp cost.

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 Post subject: Re: 2h warrior / Warlock -- best,most fun build, u know im right
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I'm not saying I can't be killed or anything, but these aren't really huge problems for my build. xD


heheh, i did play ksro 2h sword 2 lvl 45 by hand and no plvl no ticket, and i tell ya, this is build is so boring, i just would del, if u play with hand and no plvl, 4-5 skills isnt very satisfy....

just my 2 cent

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Fug_Dup wrote:

I'm not saying I can't be killed or anything, but these aren't really huge problems for my build. xD


heheh, i did play ksro 2h sword 2 lvl 45 by hand and no plvl no ticket, and i tell ya, this is build is so boring, i just would del, if u play with hand and no plvl, 4-5 skills isnt very satisfy....

just my 2 cent


Thats almost every euro build..Wiz only has 4 GOOD nukes up to 60 (Well 80 even because they replace the older ones) so =/

Same for rogue and warlock.

That would mean euro is just boring to play..And it ISN'T so maybe it's a problem you have with those 4 skills? :)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:56 am 
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Some warriors at the 80 cap can be quite a challenge, even for my sun glavie. If they have a cleric sub, then i use snowshield, and the fight will take forever. With debuffs i will go down quickly, regardless of snow shield..

Someone was saying goodluck killing a cleric in a party? Ill probably be in a party too..?

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xxAliciaxx wrote:
not effective?
It owns..Trust me it does

video, or I don't believe you. Your defense will be weak enough, and any chinese or someone with a subclass of cleric will rape you

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