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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:56 am 
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they can grind solo ...but u need vigor recovery , otherwise u die.


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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:18 am 
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I can solo. :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:27 am 
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ThisIsAvalon wrote:
Sure they can SOLO, but really, theres no point to it. You grind 25x faster in a 8 man party, as long as they know what they're doing.


Actually you only grind 50% faster in share parties with euros, crossbow rogues with CX grind at the same speed as share parties. (At least at lvl80)


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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:48 am 
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A rogue without a sub can solo giants too, the trick is... remove DD or CX! I've killed many a giants using the little tanking ability that Rogues have

Yes just remove them and with decent gear you can solo tank PTG i remember I use to tank penon giant at 55 lvl. People use dd and cx thinking they will kill giant faster and wouldnt day, with them you die 95%

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:03 pm 
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There is no such myth as euro can't solo, they can but its not effetive as chinise solo.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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ThisIsAvalon wrote:
Sure they can SOLO, but really, theres no point to it. You grind 25x faster in a 8 man party, as long as they know what they're doing.

Stole my thought.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:25 pm 
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There is no such myth as euro can't solo, they can but its not effetive as chinise solo.



I disagree with idea that euro solo is not as effective as chinese solo, at least with regards to the pure int euro damage dealers. I haven't played a rogue so I can't comment on them. It all depends on your playing style.

On Hercules I had a wizard/bard that I soloed on all the time - couldn't find decent parties. I could kill more higher level mobs at a much faster rate than I could with my s/s pure int chinese (with SOS weapons). It all depends on your playing style. I quit the s/s character because I was levelling much faster with the wizard.

On Hera I levelled my wizard/bard much faster than the character on Hercules could just by playing in parties. In my opinion, partying in a GOOD party is a quicker way to level for most euros than soloing. But we CAN solo and it is better than playing in a BAD party. :P I only solo now while waiting for a spot in a party. :wink: Or while finishing off a quest.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Wiz/bard is perfect for solo. From all of the Wiz/x combos.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Hitman144 wrote:
gets hard at high lvls,

i have rogue/barb full farmed 0 gap , cant solo at niya guards..

u will need a cleric, and europeans lvl way faster and better in a good share exp party. stop trying be chinese, and tryna solo on your european character. i RECOMMEND THAT U FIND A SHARE EXP PARTY GROUP :!:

+ u cant grind in cave solo , cuz ther argo mobs in close spaces so u will have 2 or 3 attacking your at same time.. you will eventually die..

people that have cleric subs might be able to solo but u would have to keep switching alot..

europeans can only solo at low lvls from my views, but at high lvls u definitely need a party



I'm lvl 68 now and I solo'ed all the lvl's, since there isn't a pt to ind I just have to.
It is possible even very easy to solo with a 2h/cleric at lvl 66 I already finished the sniper quest (1500 to kill) so this myth is busted!

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Sure They Can SoLO :P

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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People who say that Euros cant solo are botters prolly coz you cant bot up an euro ... I think you are able to bot up Warrior or Rogue ... but definetly not Wizard nor Warlock ... So I think that "myth" has came from people that were trying to bot up euro ... its really easy to solo with any class in euro ...

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Rogue/Bard with CX and a good weapon grinds very very well on it's own.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Nitro wrote:
People who say that Euros cant solo are botters prolly coz you cant bot up an euro ... I think you are able to bot up Warrior or Rogue ... but definetly not Wizard nor Warlock ... So I think that "myth" has came from people that were trying to bot up euro ... its really easy to solo with any class in euro ...



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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:42 pm 
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I'm pretty sure you can bot up euro characters better than Chinese with a little added code. Many of the bots I see like the pklove line are all most likely the same person. With a little code I'm sure you can have 1 Wizard and 1 Cleric and 1 Bard.


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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Nitro wrote:
People who say that Euros cant solo are botters prolly coz you cant bot up an euro ... I think you are able to bot up Warrior or Rogue ... but definetly not Wizard nor Warlock ... So I think that "myth" has came from people that were trying to bot up euro ... its really easy to solo with any class in euro ...

I seen A Cleric botting at Nachals, a Bard botting at Nachals, and a Wizard and Warlock botting at Shamans.

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They can solo a gaint at their own level but when it comes to a soloing a pt gaint.. You're pretty much dead.

Easy. Its just not worth the time.

ThisIsAvalon wrote:
Sure they can SOLO, but really, theres no point to it. You grind 25x faster in a 8 man party, as long as they know what they're doing.

Maybe about 2 or 3 times faster. Maybe less...

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There is no such myth as euro can't solo, they can but its not effetive as chinise solo.

I'm pretty sure a Wizard or Warlock can beat out any Chinese.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Nitro wrote:
People who say that Euros cant solo are botters prolly coz you cant bot up an euro ... I think you are able to bot up Warrior or Rogue ... but definetly not Wizard nor Warlock ... So I think that "myth" has came from people that were trying to bot up euro ... its really easy to solo with any class in euro ...

I seen A Cleric botting at Nachals, a Bard botting at Nachals, and a Wizard and Warlock botting at Shamans.

Yeah ... but you need to get there are first .... what about when you're like lv.45 ... you cant bot anywhere ...

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:04 pm 
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Prophet Izaach wrote:
I pointed out the obvious. You pointed out the obvious. SuperTanker, Casey613, ThisIsAvalon, and Hitman144 pointed out the obvious. Do you want me to say it again? Euros are better in parties. Are you going to bitch how the thread starter's not talking about solo vs. party, or are you going to chillax?

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The fact is they don't have to be party-oriented, but it's better that they should. Sort of like you don't have to have oh.... let's say a sos weapon in this game, but it's better if you do. And I'm not sure how the myth's been busted numerous times, but I've never saw where it was and if you could, would you point that out to me because otherwise I really don't know if it was or not.


I'm not sure about you but there are numerous posts above me confirming that there are Euros out there that can solo. Until you discount these personal statements, they're a sufficient proof that goes against the myth.


You should be more clear about what this "myth" is. All i said is that euros can solo, they don't have to be in a party, and by the looks of it you're the one doing the bitching not me. And i don't recall "bitching" about the thread starter not talking about solo vs party, but then again you didn't read any of my posts.


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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Nitro wrote:
People who say that Euros cant solo are botters prolly coz you cant bot up an euro ... I think you are able to bot up Warrior or Rogue ... but definetly not Wizard nor Warlock ... So I think that "myth" has came from people that were trying to bot up euro ... its really easy to solo with any class in euro ...

u my friend are not right .
i had never boot , never will.
Unless u have a dog , vigor recovery and a sub class on you/re euro! U DIE . period.


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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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I don't get how you can grind that much faster being in a shared party, even though im chinese

I party a lot with guildies, cleric and other chinese chars and it doesn't seem to go any faster, except if we goto way higher lvl mobs, which our cleric doesn't survive since he gets aggro a lot thanks to his buffs..

What makes shared parties go faster really?


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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Nitro wrote:
Da_Realest wrote:
Nitro wrote:
People who say that Euros cant solo are botters prolly coz you cant bot up an euro ... I think you are able to bot up Warrior or Rogue ... but definetly not Wizard nor Warlock ... So I think that "myth" has came from people that were trying to bot up euro ... its really easy to solo with any class in euro ...

I seen A Cleric botting at Nachals, a Bard botting at Nachals, and a Wizard and Warlock botting at Shamans.

Yeah ... but you need to get there are first .... what about when you're like lv.45 ... you cant bot anywhere ...


yes you can, if you have euro scripts for cleric buffs. i know some wizard lvl 52 botting on penons happily.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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I think a Europe Char has to solo, unless if you're in Venus, Odin or Hera.
The older servers almost never has a (decent) party to go into and lvl in.

So there's no doubt a Euro can solo. It's just better when you have a Party.

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yes you can, if you have euro scripts for cleric buffs. i know some wizard lvl 52 botting on penons happily.

someone knows their stuff :wink:

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With my warlock/cleric soloing is really easy. Since I started this char, I've been always soloing mobs 3-6 levels higher than me. Of course that I have to choose mag attack mobs if I want to survive longer than 4 mins.

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Don't forget the fast recharging zerk :D.

Got to love warlock style.

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Don't forget the fast recharging zerk :D.

Got to love warlock style.


yeah ^_^ BUT, zerk is better used while soloing with mobs around your level, since they won't hit hard, In a good spot, you can curse a mob, run and curse another, and so on, and if they hit you, you won't die =)

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You should be more clear about what this "myth" is. All i said is that euros can solo, they don't have to be in a party, and by the looks of it you're the one doing the bitching not me. And i don't recall "bitching" about the thread starter not talking about solo vs party, but then again you didn't read any of my posts.


Can you read me the title? "euros cant solo myth" There's the myth for you - well laid out in large bold text. People have, and will point out that euros are better at parties. But here you come barging in pointing out that the thread starter is not talking about solo vs. party, but the myth in soloing euros.

Should I retort back by saying you didn't read any of my posts? I can say that back, and you say it back again, but that will not take us anywhere.

Let's drop it, shall we?


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I don't get how you can grind that much faster being in a shared party, even though im chinese

I party a lot with guildies, cleric and other chinese chars and it doesn't seem to go any faster, except if we goto way higher lvl mobs, which our cleric doesn't survive since he gets aggro a lot thanks to his buffs..

What makes shared parties go faster really?


It requires a good leader and subordinate team mates. Then and only then can a European party run at its peak. A good Leader changes a lot of things.

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 Post subject: Re: euros cant solo myth
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Prophet Izaach wrote:
MarionetteKazuko wrote:
You should be more clear about what this "myth" is. All i said is that euros can solo, they don't have to be in a party, and by the looks of it you're the one doing the bitching not me. And i don't recall "bitching" about the thread starter not talking about solo vs party, but then again you didn't read any of my posts.


Can you read me the title? "euros cant solo myth" There's the myth for you - well laid out in large bold text. People have, and will point out that euros are better at parties. But here you come barging in pointing out that the thread starter is not talking about solo vs. party, but the myth in soloing euros.

Should I retort back by saying you didn't read any of my posts? I can say that back, and you say it back again, but that will not take us anywhere.

Let's drop it, shall we?


I proved my points, you just haven't been reading my posts to know. But since I'm right, yes I be the bigger man and drop it.


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