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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:51 pm 
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how about they all suxor i would like to take the time to say i love all in this life :love:

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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:55 pm 
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NuclearSilo wrote:
piootr wrote:
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With a full blue gear + cleric bless in protector + warrior buff HP + passive
Glaiver HP = 72500 compare to normal HP is 29000 HP. (<= try to kill him if it's a blader sosun shield with cleric bless and warrior screen)


Bless doesnt give hp, and warriors have no hp buff for other people

Talk as if u know everything.

Blessing series:
Force Deity: Lv 96 Str 43 increase

Glory series:
Faith: Lv 100 Str 15 increase

And there is a skill that give +65% HP but decrease dmg that i cant remember.


Glaiver full str(lv 100) with hp passiv + full blue equipment has 40584hp
with str buff and reverse oblivation he has 78232

ot: i'd say both are very good because as glaive you can kill your opponent very fast in oneshot with ghost spear and even if you dont onehit the euro you can still tank their dmg (at lv 100)

a bower is also very good he knock backs the target all the time and can kill with a strong bow

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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:39 pm 
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I'm a 70:70 bower...and roques are MOSTLY not a problem for me. (Only if I know they are pvping me=p)

I'll just wait in an ice wall, when I see them showing up I call in snowshield, use arrow combo+ice imbue, Game over for roque thb (strongbow and he's eating ground)

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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:18 pm 
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Fireblazer wrote:

Glaiver full str(lv 100) with hp passiv + full blue equipment has 40584hp
with str buff and reverse oblivation he has 78232



How much HP should a lvl 90 Glaiver with hp passive + full blues equipmenet have?


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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:07 pm 
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Lol fck glavie/bow. now blader = euro killing build 8) (even tho i dont have one :P).

rogue- cant 1 hit ko blader, so its just dead
wiz- has better chance than rogue, but if blader touches it, its dead
warrior- dam alot harder, but warrior have pot delay, bladers dont, and warrior can only use physical attacks, so blader will tank thro them xD.
warlock- if blader touches them, they are dead.
cleric- dont know
bard- lol

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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:48 pm 
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warlock- if blader touches them, they are dead.


Actually, bladers are quite fun to pvp with because they already have low damage compared to bows/glaives, meaning a pure INT can tank slightly easier. Once Impotent is casted, they do even less. The only problem is when they spam KD and get in some free hits. Hopefully stun can take care of them long enough for some more curses and debuffs. I'm not saying that the warlock class is invincible, since there are counters to debuffs (such as pills, ice/fire wall, holy word) but bladers don't have an equal amount of killing power compared to other STR builds.

On topic: Glaives are much easier to kill than bows. Even though they have slightly more HP, they are close ranged and attack slower than bows, who simply buttrape euro INTs with KB and strong bow/anti devil in a few shots. From a point of view of a warlock, Glaives have slow skill animations that are easily interrupted by stun/sleep/shield trash. Bows, on the other hand, shoot off skills that have a dangerous chance of critting and they have range increasing skills. Plus, stun does not stop the actual arrow from firing, like if a bowman used strong bow and a warlock stunned him in the middle of the animation, the arrow still hits. On the other hand, glaive skills are easily stopped dead. For example, soul spear can be stopped right when the weapon is about to hit your body, and you will take no damage. If caught unprepared, though, anyone can be killed :P

Theoretical Bow PVP with Warlock:
Bow attacks first with Strong Bow and Anti Devil. Warlock is caught off guard and is most likely one-hit-critted.
Warlock attacks first. Uses Stun, then Bloody Trap and Sleep to immobilize. Debuffs and curses. Possible situations include:
1) Warlock successfully gets the kill
2) Bloody Trap explodes and Bowman instant casts KB arrow, starting the cycle again
3) Statuses are pilled off or wear off, warlock dies

That's pretty much it. I hate bows ><

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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:58 pm 
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I think Euro's are to overpowered at this cap to tell how they actually are at higher caps. At higher caps I've only seen Glaivers get 1 hit by Wizards because the Wizards have sun... I think the armor is far to low ATM and when we hit 9D we will know the truth.

Also, Rogues get their buts whooped at higher levels. Damage buffs hurt them a lot more than they help them at higher caps, except for XBow which actually gives them a pretty even chance.

But, Dare Devil is still super imba. Kills anything any cap.

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 Post subject: Re: BOWMEN AND GLAIVERS VS EUROS CHARS.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:46 pm 
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I myself play a s/s nuker and i kill euro chars pretty easily using fire and crystal shield. Especially rogues and wizards r easy to kill since the first hit doesn't hurt at all. X bow rogues i can kill using phantom when i am still in the shield. Immedaitely when its broken my char will use the phantom and do the kd before the other char attacks again^^
I mean Glavie with Emperor is doing pretty well with this taktik too.
But i think Bows r the best euro pwner out there. And with 100 cap they will be almost untouchable.. For anyone.


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