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tedtwilliger
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:28 am |
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When we get big updates like we do every 6 months with steady and stable servers which very really shut down for no reason, we shouldnt complain too much. Sure sro has its problems, but for a free mmo it aint so bad. The gold bots are the fault of the community, not joymax. Player bots are the community's fault, not joymax's. The way i see it start blaming the people who ruin the game and not joymax for letting it happen. When the players caused the problems why would joymax fix it? Joymax as a company simply wants to keep its customers happy. The majority of customers in this game like to bot and buy gold, so thus joymax allows it to happen. As soon as the entire community turns against bots, they will disappear. Gold bots are only here on a supply and demand status remember.
Remember isro could get much worse than it is, be thankful for what we get.
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:46 am |
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Really? So why im not happy?
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tedtwilliger
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:51 am |
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If your not happy, dont play?
Joymax cant make everyone of its customers happy, what company can?
But thats life. I dont like being killed by any sun bot when im jobbing, i hate having to grind with 50 bots ksing my mob.. but theres no point complaining. Why? Thats life. Life is full of injustices, theres not a lot you can do about it. You can sit here complaining all you want, but when its the communities fault for letting this happen it wont do shit. You wanna change isro? Do what venus has done.
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:06 am |
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It's not the community fault for letting it happens. It's JM allow it. Seriously, do u think implement a secret checksum check to the client is hard? Maybe hacker could crack it. But at the time they realize it, 10k+ of gold bots is automatically banned.
If in the street, a police saw a stealer steals a sandwitch from a store. The police says: it's ok, I just want to make him happy and not starving, i wont arrest him, it's the sandwitch seller's fault for letting it happened, for not paying attention???
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tedtwilliger
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:13 am |
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wait so you want to blame the people administering the law, even though its the people who break the laws fault?
If the people didnt break the law there wouldn't be a problem. Simple as that. Dont blame other people for someones actions.
Just because joymax doenst ban bots it doesnt mean we should bot. I thought you of all people would realize that. But i guess your silly scenario shows otherwise.
a man j-walks down the street and gets hit by a car. He then tries to sue the police for not taking a greater stand against j-walkers
see my point?
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:17 am |
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Quote: wait so you want to blame the people administering the law, even though its the people who break the laws fault? Yes, im blaming both JM and the bots. - JM close one eye and not doing their job, not respecting their ToS. If they do nothing against the bots just to keep them happy, why not remove from the ToS "using of 3rd pt prog..."? - The bots break the law and not having any punishment, while the legit suffer for not breaking anything. Quote: If the people didnt break the law there wouldn't be a problem. Simple as that. Dont blame other people for someones actions. The "if" is just your imagination. The bots did break the law so there was a problem. If the police isnt doing his job, there is no reason to not blaming him. So after all u want to say: it's OK that JM doesnt ban the bot, and it's OK to buy gold and bot? Everything is fine atm?
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tedtwilliger
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:23 am |
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did i say its fine to bot and buy gold?no i didnt.
All im saying is that the game is the way it is because of the users. Joymax has the right to do nothing about it from a business stand point, its their game they can do what they want.
But when the users of this game have broken the laws it shouldnt be held responsible to joymax to fix it, but rather for the players to have the self control to not break the law in the first place.
Maybe my views are too idealistic, who knows. I have stayed legit over a very long time of playing the game and i fail to see why others dont as well.
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:54 am |
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So as u said nothing will be fixed because users (botter) dont want to fix it, JM has no responsible.
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It's ok to break the law and get no punishment. The police is not responsible.
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tedtwilliger
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:05 am |
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no you assume i have said its ok to break the law yet my very argument is against that idea.
What im saying is people shouldnt break the law in the first place, thus no need for police or in this case joymax interference.
For those who have broken the law it should within their morals to fix it themselves, dam they shouldnt of broken it in the first place.
Now if you continue to keep saying i think breaking the law is ok, than you obviously cant even interpret my words.
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:17 am |
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Quote: What im saying is people shouldnt break the law in the first place, thus no need for police or in this case joymax interference. But they (botters) did break the law. Thus we need JM's interference. But as u see, JM lazy do nothing. Quote: For those who have broken the law it should within their morals to fix it themselves, dam they shouldnt of broken it in the first place. Sadly they dont have moral and they dont want to fix it. Now what? We leave this game like this forever or do something? Just tell me: Break the law and get punished or not punished? BAN or NOT BAN?If u didnt read carefuly what i said, i'll repeat it again. Quote: they dont have moral and they dont want to fix it Quote: We leave this game like this forever or do something?
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PR0METHEUS
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:54 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: It's not the community fault for letting it happens. It's JM allow it. Seriously, do u think implement a secret checksum check to the client is hard? Maybe hacker could crack it. But at the time they realize it, 10k+ of gold bots is automatically banned.
If in the street, a police saw a stealer steals a sandwitch from a store. The police says: it's ok, I just want to make him happy and not starving, i wont arrest him, it's the sandwitch seller's fault for letting it happened, for not paying attention??? It's the community's fault for creating the bot problem in the first place. It's Joymax's fault for continuing to let it happen. However, as a company, Joymax wants to do whatever they can to make a majority of their customers happy. If the majority likes botting, why should Joymax stop it? Why would it be a bad thing, from a gold company's standpoint if 10k+ of their gold bots are banned? It might hurt some, but they can just recreate new accounts, plvl them back up to a decent level and farm some more. As you've said, the MD5 thing could be cracked after those 10k+ accounts are banned. Bot writers can just develop a work-around, then create 10k+ new gold bots that will no longer be banned. Server-side-only bot banning would be a better solution.
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Dancin
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Post subject: Re: Idea How to Kick Joymax in the ass MUST READ Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:23 pm |
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Quote: The gold bots is the true and best supporters of JM. Think about how much money they force u to buy PT. Quote: It's the community's fault for creating the bot problem in the first place. It's Joymax's fault for continuing to let it happen. However, as a company, Joymax wants to do whatever they can to make a majority of their customers happy. If the majority likes botting, why should Joymax stop it?
Why would it be a bad thing, from a gold company's standpoint if 10k+ of their gold bots are banned? It might hurt some, but they can just recreate new accounts, plvl them back up to a decent level and farm some more.
As you've said, the MD5 thing could be cracked after those 10k+ accounts are banned. Bot writers can just develop a work-around, then create 10k+ new gold bots that will no longer be banned.
Server-side-only bot banning would be a better solution.
+1 I think that JM keeps isro only for the money. All the mmorpg awards JM got were for ksro.
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