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 Post subject: Re: Fastest type of character to get to 80 and farmed?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:22 am 
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wat if u dont have 2 comps?

Yeah i know im pwnz0rz 8)

then you would be doing a multiclient which would get you banned.

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 Post subject: Re: Fastest type of character to get to 80 and farmed?
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Assuming your parties arent great and without bless cycle, then warriors will level the fastest since they die the least compared to all the other euros.

Fastest char to 80 and farmed, I would say Rogue/Bard because you can always be in a party with barding (rogues are nearly useless in parties), and solo as a rogue very well.

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 Post subject: Re: Fastest type of character to get to 80 and farmed?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:31 pm 
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Phantasma wrote:
Assuming your parties arent great and without bless cycle, then warriors will level the fastest since they die the least compared to all the other euros.

Fastest char to 80 and farmed, I would say Rogue/Bard because you can always be in a party with barding (rogues are nearly useless in parties), and solo as a rogue very well.


Actually i tend to contradict you and i have some arguments to suport that statement , unlike you.
If rogue is euro and euro is made for party , how can u say that they are useless in one ?
As the "comprehensive rogue guide" said , it's the most versatile class , and believe me , i know. If you are cleric you can tank as a warrior with recovery div and healing cycle , but not many mobs and if you have a warrior in you're party you can use CE for dmg making and kd, kb , maybe ks ^^ , but if there is a full party you can do anything , besides the best dmg ingame(with crits) without using 90% of your life.

With a cleric healing you , a bard allowing you to outrun tight situations and a warlock helping at giant pty mobs that you alone take on , it's (for me ) the best class i've played.

So i guess that makes a rogue equally useful in a party , thank you , good night.


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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:40 am 
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sinruss wrote:
Phantasma wrote:
Assuming your parties arent great and without bless cycle, then warriors will level the fastest since they die the least compared to all the other euros.

Fastest char to 80 and farmed, I would say Rogue/Bard because you can always be in a party with barding (rogues are nearly useless in parties), and solo as a rogue very well.


Actually i tend to contradict you and i have some arguments to suport that statement , unlike you.
If rogue is euro and euro is made for party , how can u say that they are useless in one ?
As the "comprehensive rogue guide" said , it's the most versatile class , and believe me , i know. If you are cleric you can tank as a warrior with recovery div and healing cycle , but not many mobs and if you have a warrior in you're party you can use CE for dmg making and kd, kb , maybe ks ^^ , but if there is a full party you can do anything , besides the best dmg ingame(with crits) without using 90% of your life.

With a cleric healing you , a bard allowing you to outrun tight situations and a warlock helping at giant pty mobs that you alone take on , it's (for me ) the best class i've played.

So i guess that makes a rogue equally useful in a party , thank you , good night.

Lemme first say something, I did say nearly.

Alright, now rogues can never ever replace a warrior (or take on the task of a warrior well) because, you do not have the warrior buffs which protect wizards/cleric, you do not pull mobs WITH aggro as well as warriors, you do not tank as well (no iron skin or hp increase) and you cannot keep many mobs as a warrior a can.. so... with a rogue replacing a warrior, its something you would never want to do, and the exp gain would not be good since u arent luring at your max. Dont forget about the wizards dieing in 1 to 2 hits without warrior buffs (and assuming theres no blesses)

Rogue do great damage, I will say that... but compared to wiz, its not great. AND rogue dont really have a great AoE attack, and wiz has AoE attacks that damages well and hits a good amount of targets. Rogues are not such a good replacement for wizards because you wouldnt be able to kill massive mobs.

The only thing I can find a good use of a rogue is for luring at long distances real quick, but other than that, they fail in parties compared to other classes. (Im starting to think, what would I rather have, a chinese int nuker, or a rogue?)

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 Post subject: Re: Fastest type of character to get to 80 and farmed?
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:20 pm 
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Phantasma wrote:
sinruss wrote:
Phantasma wrote:
Assuming your parties arent great and without bless cycle, then warriors will level the fastest since they die the least compared to all the other euros.

Fastest char to 80 and farmed, I would say Rogue/Bard because you can always be in a party with barding (rogues are nearly useless in parties), and solo as a rogue very well.


Actually i tend to contradict you and i have some arguments to suport that statement , unlike you.
If rogue is euro and euro is made for party , how can u say that they are useless in one ?
As the "comprehensive rogue guide" said , it's the most versatile class , and believe me , i know. If you are cleric you can tank as a warrior with recovery div and healing cycle , but not many mobs and if you have a warrior in you're party you can use CE for dmg making and kd, kb , maybe ks ^^ , but if there is a full party you can do anything , besides the best dmg ingame(with crits) without using 90% of your life.

With a cleric healing you , a bard allowing you to outrun tight situations and a warlock helping at giant pty mobs that you alone take on , it's (for me ) the best class i've played.

So i guess that makes a rogue equally useful in a party , thank you , good night.

Lemme first say something, I did say nearly.

Alright, now rogues can never ever replace a warrior (or take on the task of a warrior well) because, you do not have the warrior buffs which protect wizards/cleric, you do not pull mobs WITH aggro as well as warriors, you do not tank as well (no iron skin or hp increase) and you cannot keep many mobs as a warrior a can.. so... with a rogue replacing a warrior, its something you would never want to do, and the exp gain would not be good since u arent luring at your max. Dont forget about the wizards dieing in 1 to 2 hits without warrior buffs (and assuming theres no blesses)

Rogue do great damage, I will say that... but compared to wiz, its not great. AND rogue dont really have a great AoE attack, and wiz has AoE attacks that damages well and hits a good amount of targets. Rogues are not such a good replacement for wizards because you wouldnt be able to kill massive mobs.

The only thing I can find a good use of a rogue is for luring at long distances real quick, but other than that, they fail in parties compared to other classes. (Im starting to think, what would I rather have, a chinese int nuker, or a rogue?)


Actually rogue do better dmg than wizards because they can crit , a rogue prick critical is much bigger than a wizard meteor if they are the same lvl. Yes rogue cannot fully replace one of those builds but a good player can do it easily http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzkPjGs7sic , look at that are you telling me that a warrior could of killed in that situation faster(doing that low dmg slowly) or that a wizard could of took that much dmg(it would of died in 1 hit) ?. Warrior can tank better but not for long without a supporting party , wizards cand make more dmg if we count out criticals but can't take any hits , a rogue/cleric can take hits , can make overwhelming dmg and can farm without worrying.
Anyways , there are a lot of pro and con's concerning rogue , i like it , you don't so we might as well get used to that :).


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