Regarding Banning Ex-Botters

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

@Lady, That isn't intentional Man-Slaughter.

MrBow · **Posted:** Sat May 10, 2008 3:22 pm

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

i saw another guy's thread about him amitting he botted, and he still plays sro, but as a legit. he gave up his botted char, and started a legit one. but he got banned

.

Source?
ps can't comment on this matter now.

__ViRuS__ · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 180 **Location:**

theblindarcher wrote:

Nitro wrote:

Bot once ... Bot forever ...

so true all my friends once they botted they dont stop its like a drug
look if you have like a lvl 80 char fully farmed (botted) i doubt anyone would give it up maybe some but not alot
also you dont know if they are lying so...i guess if you botted you get banned

nooooooooooo

Quote:

i guess if you botted you get banned

u dont get banned i know alot botters (friends) near my house
and they bot from alot time i dont bot cuz i think i will get
banned but they bot all the time and im lower than them by 40 lvl
(im noob for them :banghead:

)
so that joymax doesnt even care they just say

MOENY

and

this bots buy things from item mall :roll:

teeeha
lol thats all

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

Barotix wrote:

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

@Barotix: Maybe the biggest crime irl is muderring, and the biggest crime in a game is botting, but they re so different. Murdering will stay like a stain. it will keep on coming up in ur credit files and stuff, but botting wont. after a bot has deleted a botted account and started a new legit one, the stain is gone.

The stain is gone? Players in the MMO and forums related the MMO will always bring it up. The stain stays, people won't forget. Like those "rumors" about avalon, I don't know if they're true or not but people sure don't let the stain (if there was any) wash off. As long as the MMO exist and you reveal your former Identity then the stain will never leave. Murderers, like former botters, can seek a new identity after incarceration.

I understand you, Irl =/= In Game, but the same rules and logic apply. Steroids are to Sports as Botting is to MMOs. Murder (metaphors) is/(are) to extreme IMO and can only be pulled off in certain context.

ok, i see what u are saying, but lets get back on track. can u tell me any reasons why banning an ex-botter will help the community? thats what im trying to say

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Making an example out of the 'has-been' botter is a reason for removal from the top of my head. Otherwise, there's really no reason to remove someone who has completely stopped doing the bad and started anew. In this sort of situation, it isn't exactly comparable to murder. As you remove the botted character and start a new character, hence a "new life."

Though, it can become difficult, you might want to still punish, but with a lighter note to it. You can call it probation.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

Zing wrote:

Making an example out of the 'has-been' botter is a reason for removal from the top of my head. Otherwise, there's really no reason to remove someone who has completely stopped doing the bad and started anew. In this sort of situation, it isn't exactly comparable to murder. As you remove the botted character and start a new character, hence a "new life."

Though, it can become difficult, you might want to still punish, but with a lighter note to it. You can call it probation.

i agree with u. there must be a consequence, but it should be lighter than a perm ban. maybe a 7 days one

Rainigul · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4490 **Location:**

The murder and botting metaphor sucks, they just aren't parallels.

The steroid botting metaphor however is good, they seem to be the same.

Both are cheating in a game, and both result in banning from the game. And in both, the banning from the game only applies if they get caught, lol

nohunta · **Posted:** Sat May 10, 2008 8:32 pm

LOl so in the case you making barotrix.. lets make some examples

Billy kills someone and gets put for ln prison.

Susie robs a store.

Both deserve the same penalty?

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

nohunta wrote:

LOl so in the case you making barotrix.. lets make some examples

Billy kills someone and gets put for ln prison.

Susie robs a store.

Both deserve the same penalty?

Yes lethal injection.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

nohunta wrote:

LOl so in the case you making barotrix.. lets make some examples

Billy kills someone and gets put for ln prison.

Susie robs a store.

Both deserve the same penalty?

Is it just me or was that a dumb post :roll:

Murder =/= Theft.

Your post point? None, kthxbai.

High Crime = High Crime
Low Crime =/= High crime.

comprende?

izmeister · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 1138 **Location:** Yes

Barotix wrote:

Your post point? None, kthxbai.

What the hell does post count have to do with anything?

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

Funny how this is a thread about bots yet I see some one who got banned from SRF and using two fake accounts to write in this thread....

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

izmeister wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Your post point? None, kthxbai.

What the hell does post count have to do with anything?

It actually means that ppl with low post count prolly haven't been here long.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

izmeister wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Your post point? None, kthxbai.

What the hell does post count have to do with anything?

.... Read it again, thx.

your post POINT, in other words the point of your post not the count. Maybe I should have used your post' point instead of your post point.

InsertName · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 2188 **Location:** Canada

You're saying if "Bob" murdered somebody but nobody knows. He goes to tell the police of the crime and he promise to stop murdering he gets away with murder?

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

InsertName wrote:

You're saying if "Bob" murdered somebody but nobody knows. He goes to tell the police of the crime and he promise to stop murdering he gets away with murder?

or perhaps he has had a couple ids on srf banned and is trying to justify his ex'ness

nice comparison btw

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

InsertName wrote:

You're saying if "Bob" murdered somebody but nobody knows. He goes to tell the police of the crime and he promise to stop murdering he gets away with murder?

Yes because he could have let them rot with no one knowing...

What is it with people comparing so much on srf to murder?
BTW Ex-botters aren't welcome either

izmeister · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 1138 **Location:** Yes

Barotix wrote:

izmeister wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Your post point? None, kthxbai.

What the hell does post count have to do with anything?

.... Read it again, thx.

your post POINT, in other words the point of your post not the count. Maybe I should have used your post' point instead of your post point.

Oh, lol, sorry :oops:

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

InsertName wrote:

You're saying if "Bob" murdered somebody but nobody knows. He goes to tell the police of the crime and he promise to stop murdering he gets away with murder?

why are u comparing murder to a game -.-

HawaiianMix wrote:

or perhaps he has had a couple ids on srf banned and is trying to justify his ex'ness

nice comparison btw

if that was directed to me, i just wanna say im new to srf. nvr had an account here. i ve been playing in sro for about 3 months in Odin under the ign 0nly_Me, which is a lvl 40 wiz

. and i have nvr botted, so dont accuse me -.-.I am not playing sro atm cause of exams.

@Blackdragon6: why, unless they are supporting bots, arent ex-botters allowed here?

Amarisa · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4049 **Location:** Magic

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

InsertName wrote:

You're saying if "Bob" murdered somebody but nobody knows. He goes to tell the police of the crime and he promise to stop murdering he gets away with murder?

why are u comparing murder to a game -.-

HawaiianMix wrote:

or perhaps he has had a couple ids on srf banned and is trying to justify his ex'ness

nice comparison btw

if that was directed to me, i just wanna say im new to srf. nvr had an account here. i ve been playing in sro for about 3 months in Odin under the ign 0nly_Me, which is a lvl 40 wiz

. and i have nvr botted, so dont accuse me -.-.I am not playing sro atm cause of exams.

@Blackdragon6: why, unless they are supporting bots, arent ex-botters allowed here?

i guess its because they botted once and the mods thing "once a botter always a botter". but i dont think thats true because dont people quit drugs yet there addicting and all that other stuff.

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

if that was directed to me, i just wanna say im new to srf. nvr had an account here. i ve been playing in sro for about 3 months in Odin under the ign 0nly_Me, which is a lvl 40 wiz

. and i have nvr botted, so dont accuse me -.-.I am not playing sro atm cause of exams.

:: listens to audience applause :: how wonderful

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

HawaiianMix wrote:

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

if that was directed to me, i just wanna say im new to srf. nvr had an account here. i ve been playing in sro for about 3 months in Odin under the ign 0nly_Me, which is a lvl 40 wiz

. and i have nvr botted, so dont accuse me -.-.I am not playing sro atm cause of exams.

:: listens to audience applause :: how wonderful

u asked for it

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

I really really find it kinda ridiculous that people actually compare botting with murder.

now i know it's a methaphor and all, but still how the fock can you compare this kind of things?

you guys are taking this game way too serious.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

heroo wrote:

I really really find it kinda ridiculous that people actually compare botting with murder.

now i know it's a methaphor and all, but still how the fock can you compare this kind of things?

you guys are taking this game way too serious.

+1

firefox6 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1485 **Location:**

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

Barotix wrote:

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

@Backfire: U are saying murdering ppl in real life is the same as botting in a game :roll:

. maybe u could simplify that?

Breaking a big rule in real life deserves a harsh punishment irl. Breaking a big rule in game/ on forums deserves a harsh punishment in game/ on forums. Why is it so hard for people to understand metaphors.

Well like u said, i dont get that kind of comparing

. Maybe u can make it simplier? because comparing rl to a game is hard for me.

@JoyFax: If the bots do that, then the ppl in srf will be suspicious.

something it wrong with you people that think this game is anything like real life.. SRO is a GAME. just a GAME nothing more then lines of code for our enjoyment. people play to be something they cant be in life and to play a roll..
hunters in game are not hunters in life.. no matter how much you want it to be real .. in real life you maybe a fat ass with no friends, in the game your a lvl 80 farmed sun covered king of the server.. get a life it is a game.. you need to lean that it is not real. anyone that thinks it is anywhere near real needs to go to there dr and get some pills.. get off the computer go out and enjoy REAL life.. shit

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

firefox6 wrote:

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Breaking a big rule in real life deserves a harsh punishment irl. Breaking a big rule in game/ on forums deserves a harsh punishment in game/ on forums. Why is it so hard for people to understand metaphors.

Well like u said, i dont get that kind of comparing

. Maybe u can make it simplier? because comparing rl to a game is hard for me.

@JoyFax: If the bots do that, then the ppl in srf will be suspicious.

something it wrong with you people that think this game is anything like real life.. SRO is a GAME. just a GAME nothing more then lines of code for our enjoyment. people play to be something they cant be in life and to play a roll..
hunters in game are not hunters in life.. no matter how much you want it to be real .. in real life you maybe a fat ass with no friends, in the game your a lvl 80 farmed sun covered king of the server.. get a life it is a game.. you need to lean that it is not real. anyone that thinks it is anywhere near real needs to go to there dr and get some pills.. get off the computer go out and enjoy REAL life.. shit

um, wat does anything have to do with that? and i have a life, maybe u dont

firefox6 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1485 **Location:**

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

um, wat does anything have to do with that? and i have a life, maybe u dont

maybe i do maybe i dont but see the great thing about the net is i can be anyone and you would never know..

i don't know who you are(not that i even care) and you don't know who i am. i could be the killer living just a few doors down from you.. you don't know!

Judge · **Posted:** Mon May 12, 2008 8:24 pm

heroo wrote:

I really really find it kinda ridiculous that people actually compare botting with murder.

now i know it's a methaphor and all, but still how the fock can you compare this kind of things?

you guys are taking this game way too serious.

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met·a·phor Pronunciation[met-uh-fawr, -fer]
–noun
1. a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.” Compare mixed metaphor, simile (def. 1).
2. something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.

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com·par·i·son [kuhm-par-uh-suhn]
–noun

4. Rhetoric. the considering of two things with regard to some characteristic that is common to both, as the likening of a hero to a lion in courage.

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a·nal·o·gy [uh-nal-uh-jee]
–noun, plural -gies.
1. a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.
5. Logic. a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.
[Origin: 1530–40; < L analogia < Gk. See analogous, -y3]

Learn the meaning of a word before scrutinizing its use. Thank you. Stop replacing metaphor with analogy or comparison, they are not the same thing. The next time you 'attempt' to break down another's argument at least make sure you understand what they're typing.

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