What keeps you Staying Legit?

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

_Creep_ wrote:

I bet in my life half of you use bot.

Why is that? Because I want to open eyes to guys that think that botters are complete retards?

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

I never used a bot ^^ On an previous server I was in a mixed guild bots/legits and learned a lot about bots there. If it's so easy the legits should own all the fortresses at the moment. Bots users use a bot for pve but connect themselves and go pvp or job warring. They learn the stuff there.

Priam · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:25 pm

What keeps you idiots making these retarded topics over and over. bot this, legit that. Hello? discuss something else.

Stress · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:25 pm

Nitro wrote:

Well, I personally played on lv.90 Archer ... yeah indeed, I needed 2-3 days to figure everything out... I was pretty confused at first, when I got him in hands first time ...

But after 2-3 days, I couldnt see difference between me, and someone that played Bower 1 year...
The rest was on gear ... lets face it, the people you are talking about Stress, lack of inteligence.

Tell me, about PvE... it isn't like PvP ... I will never, during grind, act like I'm PvPing ...
Those are totally diffrent stuff ... (example Warrior, when you started about him.)

When I'm facing Giant, I wont do the same thing I'd do when I'm PvPing ...
I mean, if I can take him down, without switching to Cleric rod and casting healing cycle... why would I cast healing cycle ... I'd kill him with Sword...
And I dont think I'll grind on mobs that are few levels above me, so I have problems with killing them, and I need to use some PvP tactics...

Example at your Glavier:
You will never switch to shield when you get KD-ed, because you simply dont need to... (1)
You will mindlessly start with some skill, and end with another... (2)

PvP =/= PvE

But You do gain some skill... but true skill is gained in PvP.

(1) I switch to shield after each mars on my hybrid spear (level 70) and on my glaiver (level 59). Why? I AoE grind with ghost spear. With 6-7 mobs on myself, the two seconds can really save my ass. This is a PvP tactic, which I use in PvE.

(2) It never happens like this. Talk about giants: I aggro the giant with lion shout / flying dragon. Then, if there's no other mob around, I hit the giant with SSS + SST, as soon as another mob gets in sight, I aggro the mob to get it close to the giant, so that my AoE attacks (Ghost spears and/or nukes) can kill the mob faster. This isn't mindlessly starting with one skill and ending with another one. Same principle works with a blader, a bower or an INT S&S. (with different skills, though) Have I missed any chinese build?

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

Stress wrote:

Nitro wrote:

Well, I personally played on lv.90 Archer ... yeah indeed, I needed 2-3 days to figure everything out... I was pretty confused at first, when I got him in hands first time ...

But after 2-3 days, I couldnt see difference between me, and someone that played Bower 1 year...
The rest was on gear ... lets face it, the people you are talking about Stress, lack of inteligence.

Tell me, about PvE... it isn't like PvP ... I will never, during grind, act like I'm PvPing ...
Those are totally diffrent stuff ... (example Warrior, when you started about him.)

When I'm facing Giant, I wont do the same thing I'd do when I'm PvPing ...
I mean, if I can take him down, without switching to Cleric rod and casting healing cycle... why would I cast healing cycle ... I'd kill him with Sword...
And I dont think I'll grind on mobs that are few levels above me, so I have problems with killing them, and I need to use some PvP tactics...

Example at your Glavier:
You will never switch to shield when you get KD-ed, because you simply dont need to... (1)
You will mindlessly start with some skill, and end with another... (2)

PvP =/= PvE

But You do gain some skill... but true skill is gained in PvP.

(1) I switch to shield after each mars on my hybrid spear (level 70) and on my glaiver (level 59). Why? I AoE grind with ghost spear. With 6-7 mobs on myself, the two seconds can really save my ass. This is a PvP tactic, which I use in PvE.

(2) It never happens like this. Talk about giants: I aggro the giant with lion shout / flying dragon. Then, if there's no other mob around, I hit the giant with SSS + SST, as soon as another mob gets in sight, I aggro the mob to get it close to the giant, so that my AoE attacks (Ghost spears and/or nukes) can kill the mob faster. This isn't mindlessly starting with one skill and ending with another one. Same principle works with a blader, a bower or an INT S&S. (with different skills, though) Have I missed any chinese build?

Personally, I dont like to think much when I'm grinding ... grinding is something that will relax me ... to put my legs on desk , turn TV on , watching TV , clicking on mobs...

We are diffrent, but I think your combination is really exhausting... No wonder everyone goes botting

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

PVE is searching for the most suitable array of keystrokes that's all. Push 1 2, before the attack is finished focus on the next mob, push 3 4, before the attack is finished focus on the next mob, repush 1 2. Nothing difficult, use your toolbar for that.

I'm glad that I have a very good friend that is legit on my server. We do other stuff to relax from the grinding. If the game was just PVE, I would probably quitted since long.

Stress · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:32 pm

Nitro wrote:

Stress wrote:

Nitro wrote:

Well, I personally played on lv.90 Archer ... yeah indeed, I needed 2-3 days to figure everything out... I was pretty confused at first, when I got him in hands first time ...

But after 2-3 days, I couldnt see difference between me, and someone that played Bower 1 year...
The rest was on gear ... lets face it, the people you are talking about Stress, lack of inteligence.

Tell me, about PvE... it isn't like PvP ... I will never, during grind, act like I'm PvPing ...
Those are totally diffrent stuff ... (example Warrior, when you started about him.)

When I'm facing Giant, I wont do the same thing I'd do when I'm PvPing ...
I mean, if I can take him down, without switching to Cleric rod and casting healing cycle... why would I cast healing cycle ... I'd kill him with Sword...
And I dont think I'll grind on mobs that are few levels above me, so I have problems with killing them, and I need to use some PvP tactics...

Example at your Glavier:
You will never switch to shield when you get KD-ed, because you simply dont need to... (1)
You will mindlessly start with some skill, and end with another... (2)

PvP =/= PvE

But You do gain some skill... but true skill is gained in PvP.

(1) I switch to shield after each mars on my hybrid spear (level 70) and on my glaiver (level 59). Why? I AoE grind with ghost spear. With 6-7 mobs on myself, the two seconds can really save my ass. This is a PvP tactic, which I use in PvE.

(2) It never happens like this. Talk about giants: I aggro the giant with lion shout / flying dragon. Then, if there's no other mob around, I hit the giant with SSS + SST, as soon as another mob gets in sight, I aggro the mob to get it close to the giant, so that my AoE attacks (Ghost spears and/or nukes) can kill the mob faster. This isn't mindlessly starting with one skill and ending with another one. Same principle works with a blader, a bower or an INT S&S. (with different skills, though) Have I missed any chinese build?

Personally, I dont like to think much when I'm grinding ... grinding is something that will relax me ... to put my legs on desk , turn TV on , watching TV , clicking on mobs...

We are diffrent, but I think your combination is really exhausting... No wonder everyone goes botting

With no silk, I need to level faster than normal. And if I play as described above, in fact, I do. I level almost as fast as a non-skilled GT user in the same period of time, on similar builds. I've tried it out, and I was maybe at 70% of his Exp. Even though it's, maybe, exhausting, and a waste of pots, that's how I play. I've had a very hard time catching up with botters anyway. But that's one of the reasons I stopped playing, in the end. The effort at level 70+ just wasn't worth it anymore, without silk.

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

Why do you focus on that level? Play for having fun, find a couple of same minded players on your server, go for uniques, do trades, try to organise fun stuff. Take breaks from the grinding and you will re enjoy the game. Just learn to live with the fact that bots will always outlevel you, don't try at all price to catch up with them. The higher the cap, the more difficult it is to try to catch them up.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

Taelys wrote:

Why do you focus on that level? Play for having fun, find a couple of same minded players on your server, go for uniques, do trades, try to organise fun stuff. Take breaks from the grinding and you will re enjoy the game.

Yeah indeed, I had a time when I was tired of grinding, and quitted a bit ...
Then I couldnt wait to log in again (week - two after), to start grinding again.

Anyway, we went offtopic ...

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

I don't think so ^^ Most players start botting because they see how fast bots level up. Ignore the levels, focus on the game and how you can have fun with it. Endless grinding to try to catch a high level is not for me, I grind ok, when my friends aren't on, and myself and my friends really don't feel a need to use a bot because we enjoy the game in another way than reaching the highest cap in the shortest time.

Axeoo7 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:50 pm

I pt grind way faster lvling then bots.

Some of you act as if playing legit is something really hard to do? just dont cheat thats it its not a way of life or something big and hard to accomplish.

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

It's just that everyone wants to be the first level 90, the game is not only about that. I'm sure that 90% of the bots (not gold bots) started using a bot because the felt outlevelled. The other 10% because when they started on a server they wanted to be the first level 80.

Euro chars are faster to level up even in solo than chinese. I'm on a 1H/xbow, red mobs, no parties and can make it level 60 with premium plus running on it in one month with FF for both masteries. For a blader I would be glad to have level 50 in the same laps of time.

Pham · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 541 **Location:**

Taelys wrote:

It's just that everyone wants to be the first level 90, the game is not only about that. I'm sure that 90% of the bots (not gold bots) started using a bot because the felt outlevelled. The other 10% because when they started on a server they wanted to be the first level 80.

thast wat this game is about for me. Get to 90 job pvp and have fun in this game. Being low lvl sucks and all you do is grind and u dont get the best pvp expierience. So thats why i want to be one of those high lvls and rape and have4 fun and thats wat this game si about , 2 hav fun/

Axeoo7 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:01 pm

Thats there own problem took my glaive 1 year + to get to lvl 70 and 4 months farming to get farmed i didnt care, Didnt need to cheat played with my friends when i wanted to.

My euro char i barely used any silk and within a few months im nearly lvl 90 with most of my skills.

People who cheat just dont understand the concept of this game its not a fps its an mmo.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

unlike retard botters, i actually enjoy the grind. maybe cuz bots dun even know how to effectively kill mobs to lvl :roll:

Faerie · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 49 **Location:**

I don't get the question. Cheating has never been an option to me.

Krushrpants · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 174 **Location:**

!G4! wrote:

Whats The Point Of Having A Bot lvl for U.

better to be legit and get respect For Ur Hard Work. :wink:

... I dont know how long you've played the game, or if it's different on other servers, but on Alps, you get no respect unless you can kill the other guy. Which, typically, requires you to be capped, and FF.

And, you don't get respect if you are legit. Never knew anyone who did. (Prolly different on venus, tho.)

4reaLz · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 735 **Location:**

TOloseGT wrote:

unlike retard botters, i actually enjoy the grind. maybe cuz bots dun even know how to effectively kill mobs to lvl :roll:

if this was true, than your mothers a retard also, unless of course she knows how to kill mobs to lvl. with botters lvling faster, owning more sun, having more gold, and pvping/jobbing when they arent afk rather than grinding, it seems like theyre the smarter ones while legits are dumb for not taking the easy way out. thinking your a better person cuz you dont bot in a video games idiotic.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

who the ..... says i think i'm a better person? guess all that botting/botter friends has melted ur brain.

Ayoki · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 80 **Location:**

Krushrpants wrote:

!G4! wrote:

Whats The Point Of Having A Bot lvl for U.

better to be legit and get respect For Ur Hard Work. :wink:

... I dont know how long you've played the game, or if it's different on other servers, but on Alps, you get no respect unless you can kill the other guy. Which, typically, requires you to be capped, and FF.

And, you don't get respect if you are legit. Never knew anyone who did. (Prolly different on venus, tho.)

Absolutely true for the most part
if you don't kill people who are known or if you can't take down uniques (not the low ones) you are a nobody

you tell people you are legit - they go like "wow" but more in a way like "wow damn ur still handgrinding lolz"

this game is all about being capped, being farmed and good gear
why? because you get owned while jobbing/pvping/fortress war if you dont have these things, and those are the only real fun parts apart from messing around, which gets boring when u play this game for 2 years or more

why stay legit? The only reason I can think of is that one has come too far to give up being it

4reaLz · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 735 **Location:**

TOloseGT wrote:

who the ..... says i think i'm a better person? guess all that botting/botter friends has melted ur brain.

are you retarded? that phrase floats around these forums all the time.

Stress · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:15 pm

Cut the flames down, please.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

4reaLz wrote:

are you retarded? that phrase floats around these forums all the time.

do i go parading around every topic saying i'm fking legit and i'm better for it? NO. i say fk you botters. looks like u'r barking up the wrong tree.

4reaLz · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 735 **Location:**

TOloseGT wrote:

do i go parading around every topic saying i'm fking legit and i'm better for it? NO. i say fk you botters. looks like u'r barking up the wrong tree.

Stress wrote:

Cut the flames down, please.

CT999 · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 33 **Location:** canada

Botters have their reasons to bot
Legits have their reasons to be legits

just think about futur : gap 100 110 120 ... 150
impossible to play, test and enjoy several characters without botting
gonna take eternity for leveling just 1 char max gap, full farm (if no max dont think about enjoying the game fully)

so happy hand grinding to legits

and happy botting to bots : ME ^_^
i enjoy botting, play and test 4 chars + 2 more low euro levels 500k SP
our botting guild do the most trades and hunters ever : very fun cause all max, can handle thiefts
believe me : more jobs activities ever

its no more : jobbing guys ? oh no, i have my gold ticket *** or just finish my gold ticket, tired and go bed ***

and have time to play with my kids ************* most important

it is just a game, i pay for fun : I MUST HAVE FUN *********

good luck all ^_^

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

4reaLz wrote:

than your mothers a retard also

are you retarded?

Stress wrote:

Cut the flames down, please.

Stress · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:21 pm

Let's keep this thread going clean. We wouldn't want an argument derailing a thread, which might produce a constructive discussion. TOlose and 4reaLz, keep it down, please. If you wish, continue the argument through PM.

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

Detective wrote:

exactly same reason why you are still a virgin

I've always been legit since the very first day I started SRO somewhere in 2006 (summer I think?). I've always hand grinded, never plvl, no silk, etc...

I'm not a virgin. I have two kids! So much for your theory

Glavie's Girl · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1464 **Location:**

Purchasing gold is unlegit and against ToS, but in two pages not one person has mentioned it. :cry:

I play the game still cuz its fun and allows me to not be bored. ^^

caseyd4 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 669 **Location:**

I actually Enjoy playing the game. :shock:

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