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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:32 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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nuclearsilo (or anyone), i have a question.


if i am currently level 68 and have a gold premium ticket and i need 41,584,331 experience points left to level up and if i close my gap from 7 to 5, how much SP will i get from now until i level to 69? :?


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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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Super Special Awesome Premium Platinum plus 4, cuts the 9 year grind down to a 2 and a half year grind


That one would probably cost 1000+ silk and i would still buy it...

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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I love the image, i know is from SoftMod, but I don't use it =P
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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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nuclearsilo (or anyone), i have a question.


if i am currently level 68 and have a gold premium ticket and i need 41,584,331 experience points left to level up and if i close my gap from 7 to 5, how much SP will i get from now until i level to 69? :?



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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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take 27k sp, multiply with the % exp left u need

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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take 27k sp, multiply with the % exp left u need


How on earth did you get the 27k when the max u can get with a lvl 68 5 gap is 13,243?

Don't give n00bs wrong info.

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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nuclearsilo (or anyone), i have a question.
if i am currently level 68 and have a gold premium ticket and i need 41,584,331 experience points left to level up and if i close my gap from 7 to 5, how much SP will i get from now until i level to 69? :?


You'll get 8602 skillpoints, assuming you have no SP ticket, or quests, and that you do not die.


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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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take 27k sp, multiply with the % exp left u need


How on earth did you get the 27k when the max u can get with a lvl 68 5 gap is 13,243?

Don't give n00bs wrong info.

Uhm ur right, i used the nivlam site by using the calculate button:
i put: Start 68 End 69 Gap 5
but it should be: Start 68 End 68 Gap 5

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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Skayunor wrote:
knucklehead wrote:
nuclearsilo (or anyone), i have a question.
if i am currently level 68 and have a gold premium ticket and i need 41,584,331 experience points left to level up and if i close my gap from 7 to 5, how much SP will i get from now until i level to 69? :?


You'll get 8602 skillpoints, assuming you have no SP ticket, or quests, and that you do not die.


since i have a gold premium ticket, then i get 17,204 SP right? :D


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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:56 pm 
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...8602...

since i have a gold premium ticket, then i get 17,204 SP right? :D

With only a SP ticket that would be the case, but with a premium your experience and skill experience are doubled, thus you still get 8602.


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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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1-80 = 2 months
80-90 = 1 month
90-100 = 2 months
100-110 = 4 months
110-120 = 8 months
120-130 = 16 months
130-140 = 32 months

With a legit euro party.

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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...8602...

since i have a gold premium ticket, then i get 17,204 SP right? :D

With only a SP ticket that would be the case, but with a premium your experience and skill experience are doubled, thus you still get 8602.


i dont get it what u saying. i remember reading somewhere by someone smart that gold premium ticket double your SP.


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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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1-80 = 2 months
80-90 = 1 month
90-100 = 2 months
100-110 = 4 months
110-120 = 8 months
120-130 = 16 months
130-140 = 32 months

With a legit euro party.

proof?

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i dont get it what u saying. i remember reading somewhere by someone smart that gold premium ticket double your SP.

So forget what u read.
PT give u double SP AND EXP. It only let u level faster, but it doesnt increase SP per level.

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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knucklehead wrote:
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since i have a gold premium ticket, then i get 17,204 SP right? :D

With only a SP ticket that would be the case, but with a premium your experience and skill experience are doubled, thus you still get 8602.


i dont get it what u saying. i remember reading somewhere by someone smart that gold premium ticket double your SP.


that post that confused u was made by a person who u think is "smart" is NuclearSilo. NuclearSilo, weren't you the one (along with Gul) that engaged in a flame war with D2U claiming that a party or EXP ticket will double/affect the SP you gain a level, and then Gul listen to u and went ahead and put a SP multiplier on his website LOL? of course D2U was right like always, so Gul remove it from nivlam. :roll: I had no idea why Gul would listen to NS but not D2U, when D2U is the creator of the SP chart. :banghead:

nuclear,i dont know why u always try to confused people by giving wrong info.

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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knucklehead wrote:
nuclearsilo (or anyone), i have a question.

if i am currently level 68 and have a gold premium ticket and i need 41,584,331 experience points left to level up and if i close my gap from 7 to 5, how much SP will i get from now until i level to 69? :?


when d2u quit the game a long time ago, I asked him for all the formula he got, he zipped up a huge folder and sent them to me. half of the formula he sent, i got no idea what it does since he didnt annotate them so it was like an enigma to me since it got some strange math symbols :(

one of the formula i do know was a special SP formula he didnt release which allows you to calculate for levels like 190 or level 210, in case we ever get that cap :roll:
Here's the special SP formula that was in the zip file (dont let d2u know that i posted this):

D2U's Special SP Formula:
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nuclearsilo's formula and all the other n00bs who ripoff D2U's original formula and claim it as their own all require u to look up some obscure 140 different numbers of "base xp" from a pk2 file but level above 140 arent in the pk2 file, so they are stuck for levels above 140, not to mention most of the ripoff formulas are wrong. But D2U's formula dont require the "base xp" and doesnt rely on the pk2 file since he made the formula long before pk2 eidting exist, so u only need you to put the essential info: level, gap, and exp you need to level up and it will compute the correct SP u will gain for the level, even lvl 200 which the ripoff formulas cant do.

so.. plugging in the data into D2U's formula:

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not anyone close to the 27K sp given by NuclearSIlo :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:03 pm 
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that post that confused u was made by a person who u think is "smart" is NuclearSilo. NuclearSilo, weren't you the one (along with Gul) that engaged in a flame war with D2U claiming that a party or EXP ticket will double/affect the SP you gain a level, and then Gul listen to u and went ahead and put a SP multiplier on his website LOL? of course D2U was right like always, so Gul remove it from nivlam. :roll:

Nope, your head are full of imaginations. I dont remember anything and wont believe anything u said without proof or quote lol

Also, remember, i have a big mouth, lol

And the wrong sp is from the not specific feature in nivlam. It only write Begin, End so i didnt check carefully

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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Is it just me, or you guys are getting annoying by ThiefzV2's idolizing of D2A?

Thief, please, get a girlfriend, go out with your friends, have sex, stop idolizing D2A, its just waste of your time, to idolize the person you NEVER meet?

I mean, yeah okay he is smart, but that doesnt mean that we need to listen to your crap.
I dont want to be rude, thanks for helping and giving us all that info, but seriously, stop.
ThiefzV2 account is starting to become D2A's, since we dont get your words at all, only his formulas / explanations...

Go outside, he is nothing in your life, except your e-friend; Stop idolizing him and find something else to do in your life.
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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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you are just mad cuz u were rejected so u made the post above...

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plz if u dont have any positive dont post at all. and yes i do admire him, i never try to hide it or anything. he was my best friend in the game but he quit playing a long time ago :(

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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all the D2A's formulas look great. But they dont show any of his properties or belonging's. How do we know if it's his formula, and not someone else's formula?
And i only admire him if only he found the formulas by himself, using his head; not by hacking the source code of sro.

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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you are just mad cuz u were rejected
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plz if u dont have any positive dont post at all. and yes i do admire him, i never try to hide it or anything. he was my best friend in the game but he quit playing a long time ago :(


Actually I'm not mad, he never rejected me since you never asked him.
He means nothing in my life, apsolutely nothing, he is just one smart people that I know. (atleast I've been told that).

I'm just saying, your idolizing of him, is going over the limits.
And I suggest you, to find friends in real life, not online.

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plz if u dont have any positive dont post at all. and yes i do admire him, i never try to hide it or anything. he was my best friend in the game but he quit playing a long time ago :(


Actually I'm not mad, he never rejected me since you never asked him.
He means nothing in my life, apsolutely nothing, he is just one smart people that I know. (atleast I've been told that).

I'm just saying, your idolizing of him, is going over the limits.
And I suggest you, to find friends in real life, not online.


sorry if i come off like that. i will try to limit expressing my thoughts in the future. forgive me. i just wanted to share knowledge and give credit where its due and not claim it is mine. :love:

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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all the D2A's formulas look great. But they dont show any of his properties or belonging's.


explain?

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And i only admire him if only he found the formulas by himself, using his head; not by hacking the source code of sro.


and u honestly believe that Joymax would put a formula for the SP chart inside their game? :roll: my confidence in your intelligence drop big time :banghead:

i know u two are rivals but its clear to everyone who's better

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 Post subject: Re: Nivlam.com and Formulas
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Did i said he hacked the client or server? Nope, i only said he hacked smt
U're just imagined things again when no one said smt specific.

U could also ask him to swear with betting of his parents life that he found the formulas by himself, not from someone else, and by not hacking?

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Everyone already knows that D2A is a attention whore, anyone remembers when he claimed that he "hacked" sro source code, and posted the avg gold drop rate per level? Yet it was a simple pk2 extractor way back from nymble the rev6 owner, lmao. Just search for the old threads, and you'll find it. But does that really matter? ThiefVZ like usual poor attempts trying to start a flame war for his idol, ohhh how neat.


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lol you got him confused with someone else. d2a never posted such thing. i guaranteed u $500 wont find that post. if you know D2U, u know that he never publish anything. im waiting to hear yur excuses for not proving something so easy by giving a link. (probably something lame along the line like "find it yourself" :roll:)

And also its well known back then that D2U was the one that invented PK2 Hex editing in this game and then it took popularity. His guildmate (Xano) leaked it out to the public and everyone accused them of using a bot program to summon Roc :roll:. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26187

u are an obvious account remake. what did u get banned for?

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U could also ask him to swear with betting of his parents life that he found the formulas by himself, not from someone else, and by not hacking?


hes an atheist. and i know he found the formula by himself cuz everytime i ask him for any formula he solves them and tell me. u cant get an SP chart formula by hacking the game. :roll:

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hes an atheist. and i know he found the formula by himself

Basing on what u know? How much % u know about him?

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that's what u said. Who knows if ur lying?

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Yeah, wonder who is the n00bz.
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he refuses to handgrind for more than 15 mins. he told me that handgrinding isn't "intellectually stimulating" so he seeks doing something elsea nd let a program do it more efficiently and faster. he's a botter unfortunately, but then again, many people ARE botters... so that doesn't mean he's not normal because a huge majority of people that play this game bot

Hypocrit?

And since u also found that it is an intellectual stimulating way, why dont u just admit that u support bot and are a botter? What's the point of hinding behind a shell?

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just because im friend with a botter doesn't mean I support bot or a botter myself.

98% of people that play this game are botters so everyone is bound to know someone who bot or will know someone that bot. im not going to hate someone because zomg they bot.

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lol you got him confused with someone else. d2a never posted such thing. i guaranteed u $500 wont find that post. if you know D2U, u know that he never publish anything. im waiting to hear yur excuses for not proving something so easy by giving a link. (probably something lame along the line like "find it yourself" :roll:)

And also its well known back then that D2U was the one that invented PK2 Hex editing in this game and then it took popularity. His guildmate (Xano) leaked it out to the public and everyone accused them of using a bot program to summon Roc :roll:. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26187

u are an obvious account remake. what did u get banned for?

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U could also ask him to swear with betting of his parents life that he found the formulas by himself, not from someone else, and by not hacking?


hes an atheist. and i know he found the formula by himself cuz everytime i ask him for any formula he solves them and tell me. u cant get an SP chart formula by hacking the game. :roll: if you learn graduate level mathematics topic like Number Theory or Numerical Analysis, u can make your own formula too.


You're funny, he didn't invent shit. The first pk2 related thing was released from nymble, not from your idol. Feel free to google "Nymble pk2 edit" there are still posts from way back '06.
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From my previous post:

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just because he didn't release programs to the public doesn't mean he wasn't the one that invented it. he's not the type of person that go on a forum and type "ZOMG look at what I found" or else there'll be a bazillion of those topics. He only shares info with his guildies. why would he publish info that would give his enemies advantage? that's why he was the 1st one to kill lord yarkan/saytan/good pvper/etc :roll:

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good look finding it. my bet of $500 still hold. we all know u made it up.

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