Eos, who wants to join

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

iSkate wrote:

sweet, anyone else in, we have a warlock and i wanna be a 1/2h cleric
2 Warriors, 2 Wizards, 2 Bards, 1 Cleric, 1 Warlock(done).

WELL THEN SINCE THERE'S ALOCK ALREADY ! I can join as a warrior s/s
(sub cleric or bard?)

at what times would you guys log in though ? I'll still be visiting Hera

Xfire anyone?

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

Join ksro or csro if you want to play alone undisturbed, but should show jm
their idiocy and just leave the new servers empty only goldbots running around.

Ppl joining new servers in he hope it won't be full then realizing gold companies
can run 3k goldbots easy just to fill up the new server same way.

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

sama98b wrote:

Join ksro or csro if you want to play alone undisturbed, but should show jm
their idiocy and just leave the new servers empty only goldbots running around.

Ppl joining new servers in he hope it won't be full then realizing gold companies
can run 3k goldbots easy just to fill up the new server same way.

I don't know korean or chinese

Elegeia · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 21 **Location:**

Not going to join, for it'll probably lag lag lag and d/c on my end. :/

Good luck though.

Pray3r · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 10 **Location:** NO

Ill do it.
Euro, Warrior/Bard. =D
Name will be Rise.
Thx.

Lum_Lum · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 196 **Location:** Colorado

Oops big time wrong post. Lol. Um yea....Eos rocks...um yea...anyways..back to my other window to respond to another thread. Lol.

Redd · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 203 **Location:**

Hmm friend pointed it out on your site, where it says "No loaders, but non-premium users can use the the non DC loader"...

Spare us the petty excuses, like: "OH EM GEE meyns server traffic is impossible, lets use loaders and call ourselves legit"...heard that so many times. Seriously, if that's how you plan to play, you are a disgrace to the name of legit.

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

Redd wrote:

Hmm friend pointed it out on your site, where it says "No loaders, but non-premium users can use the the non DC loader"...

Spare us the petty excuses, like: "OH EM GEE meyns server traffic is impossible, lets use loaders and call ourselves legit"...heard that so many times. Seriously, if that's how you plan to play, you are a disgrace to the name of legit.

Why isn't it legit? They're not botting, they just need to go in and not have to open SRO millions of times. can you please explain your reason for not being legit if the loader is used??

Anywas another warrior...iSkate you keeping count? xD

magisuns · **Posted:** Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:41 pm

Ring wrote:

Redd wrote:

Hmm friend pointed it out on your site, where it says "No loaders, but non-premium users can use the the non DC loader"...

Spare us the petty excuses, like: "OH EM GEE meyns server traffic is impossible, lets use loaders and call ourselves legit"...heard that so many times. Seriously, if that's how you plan to play, you are a disgrace to the name of legit.

Why isn't it legit? They're not botting, they just need to go in and not have to open SRO millions of times. can you please explain your reason for not being legit if the loader is used??

lets put it this way. If it didnt come with original sro dl then obviously its not allowed.

Dyegov · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 940 **Location:**

Well, I started a new char on Venus already so I don't think I'll be joining it.

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

For the non DC loader (or weather loader, unique map showing, etc) it's impossible to control if someone uses it or not excepted if he/she is so stupid to post a screenie showing it. So I'm realistic not utopic. It's not by putting in the rules of a guild that you are not allowed to use it that some players won't try it. It will be difficult enough to trace and keep real bot program users out of the guild.

Being legit starts by yourself and your attitude to gaming and not by what is allowed and forbidden in guild rules (at least so I feel it).

The non DC loader itself isn't affecting the gameplay like an invisibility hack. So I allow it because I can't trace it. If I ask to someone with a honest personality if he uses the non DC loader (while he does), he will admit and I'll kick him. Someone with a less honest personality will deny that he's using it and will stay in the guild even he/she cheats two times, the first time by using the non DC loader, the second time by denying its use. The first category of player seems more worthy to keep in a guild.

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

magisuns wrote:

lets put it this way. If it didnt come with original sro dl then obviously its not allowed.

well that's obvious...so that's the explanation for not being legit? shit I expected more for example Taelys' explanation was better xD

Oh well if I'm not allowed to go in a guild because I don't want to be opening SRO thousands of times too bad for me I guess.

Buying Prem soon anyways so I won't be needing it....

Man that was really offtopic... :banghead:

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

Again, being legit or not starts by yourself. Even if you put in your guild rules that something is not allowed there will always be players to bypass it and saying that they don't. I've learned to live with that since 2 1/2 years that I'm in the game. Being true legit (playing the game as provided by JM, no more) is being honest in your game attitude and it's something that probably reflects your honesty in real life too. A real legit player will never feel the urge to use any loader nor bot or if he's tempted a good talk with another legit will put him back on the right way. But I'm not going to playing gestapo for the non DC loader if it allows legits to connect on the server. It's perhaps better to use it because the loader profits more to legits than to bots.

Perhaps if players start NOT being focused on reaching as fast as possible the highest cap but focus more on enjoying the game by doing together trades, quests like the Ivy, Goria and other quests there will be more fun in a guild and they will not feel the urge to use bot programs.

One of the biggest challenges on Eos will be reaching the highest cap with a full guild. The bot programs are better and better, players using those programs are more and more experienced, and the level 90 isn't arranging things because legits will be far lower level than the highest bots, more than with cap at 80. Perhaps it's time to switch to another type of playing. You can't compete with one party of level 80 players with a full guild of 50 bots level 90 (even if they are "stupid" bots, when they aren't botting they are PVP'ing). The best way to counter them is to build up a full guild with 50 legits level 90. So that's the challenge.

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

Taelys wrote:

Again, being legit or not starts by yourself. Even if you put in your guild rules that something is not allowed there will always be players to bypass it and saying that they don't. I've learned to live with that since 2 1/2 years that I'm in the game. Being true legit (playing the game as provided by JM, no more) is being honest in your game attitude and it's something that probably reflects your honesty in real life too. A real legit player will never feel the urge to use any loader nor bot or if he's tempted a good talk with another legit will put him back on the right way.

Perhaps if players start NOT being focused on reaching as fast as possible the highest cap but focus more on enjoying the game by doing together trades, quests like the Ivy, Goria and other quests there will be more fun in a guild and they will not feel the urge to use bot programs.

One of the biggest challenges on Eos will be reaching the highest cap with a full guild. The bot programs are better and better, players using those programs are more and more experienced, and the level 90 isn't arranging things because legits will be far lower level than the highest bots, more than with cap at 80. Perhaps it's time to switch to another type of playing. You can't compete with one party of level 80 players with a full guild of 50 bots level 90 (even if they are "stupid" bots, when they aren't botting they are PVP'ing). The best way to counter them is to build up a full guild with 50 legits level 90. So that's the challenge.

Ummm I kinda thought at first you were implying that I bot , but I read the rest of the post.

Like your second statement said, Ive been stuck on 5D cuz I like goin on trades with guildies and stuff in Hera rather than go Grinding.
Anyways how long do you calculate the challegue can be completed? some people need to farm more than others :cry:

Since I hate farming and I like to protect people I like the warrior. The least farming build and great tanker as S/S

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

Level 90 is long, we will take our time. I'm very confident in the fact that a full guild of legits will beat a full guild of bots. The guild will be a sleeping dragon that will awake.

The problem at highest cap is that the mobs are not suited for partying. The highest mobs with a nice spawn rate are the wings, level 85, but they will be bot infested before the legits arrive there and it's really difficult to gather SP on mobs 5 levels lower. So I think it's better to do a SP farming at a lower stage. The Nachals in the caves are very good SP grinding mobs, perhaps it's better for all the players to do a gap 9 farming there with a full party always turning (with the highest levels joining when they don't grind their ticket), it's no prob if one or two lower levels stay in the corridor while AFK during a couple of hours. With the Nivlam calculator you can calculate the amount of SP needed for your full farmed build and when you reach your desired amount of SP you go gap 0 till level 90. Even in Takla (bones, guards, gens, etc) you never have the huge spawn rate of the caves.

But this should be discussed in game. The most important thing is that highest levels help the lower ones, and that everyone gets enough SP to be full farmed before the highest level. After reaching level 90 the farming has to go on, but it will be in a natural way to gather SP for level 100 (if it ever comes out).

I'm afraid that we will not own Jan fortress before we are a guild of capped players. But well, we can try the Hotan fortress if it's out at that moment.

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

Taelys wrote:

Level 90 is long, we will take our time. I'm very confident in the fact that a full guild of legits will beat a full guild of bots. The guild will be a sleeping dragon that will awake.

The problem at highest cap is that the mobs are not suited for partying. The highest mobs with a nice spawn rate are the wings, level 85, but they will be bot infested before the legits arrive there and it's really difficult to gather SP on mobs 5 levels lower. So I think it's better to do a SP farming at a lower stage. The Nachals in the caves are very good SP grinding mobs, perhaps it's better for all the players to do a gap 9 farming there with a full party always turning (with the highest levels joining when they don't grind their ticket), it's no prob if one or two lower levels stay in the corridor while AFK during a couple of hours. With the Nivlam calculator you can calculate the amount of SP needed for your full farmed build and when you reach your desired amount of SP you go gap 0 till level 90. Even in Takla (bones, guards, gens, etc) you never have the huge spawn rate of the caves.

But this should be discussed in game. The most important thing is that highest levels help the lower ones, and that everyone gets enough SP to be full farmed before the highest level. After reaching level 90 the farming has to go on, but it will be in a natural way to gather SP for level 100 (if it ever comes out).

I'm afraid that we will not own Jan fortress before we are a full legit guild of capped players. But well, we can try the Hotan fortress if it's out at that moment.

or we can sacrifice one member and make him/her PK all the bots :3

lol

I see some nice determination here...but what about the rest of the members how can you make em feel the same way?

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

By showing them

You can't expect level up to 90 in 1 week, if you join a new server it will take a whole time to reach that level.

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

Taelys wrote:

By showing them

You can't expect level up to 90 in 1 week, if you join a new server it will take a whole time to reach that level.

yeah .... no taxis at lower lvls XD

Redd · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 203 **Location:**

Loader excuses...pathetic.
Worse then the botter on Venus telling me.."If I don't bot, I can't have 5 capped chars"...

ravkin · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 39 **Location:**

I'll go and try my luck on eos, becouse our server ruined and best players also left.

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

Redd wrote:

Loader excuses...pathetic.
Worse then the botter on Venus telling me.."If I don't bot, I can't have 5 capped chars"...

How is using the loader just to get in faster than legits with pride of just sitting the re-opening silkroad a thousand times worse than botting? :banghead:

GL rav my name will have soemthing wit Ring on it xD

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

It's not a loader excuse. Just tell me how a guild master can check out if a player is yes or no using a non DC loader when he logs in. It's being realistic by admitting that it will be used (my guess is that the server will be instantly full crowded) and that you can't control the use of it. You can't sanction if you can't control it in game, and by admitting the use of that specific loader it will avoid fun stuff like "he told me in chat that he uses a non dc loader to login, kick him", "no I don't, but he does", "check on my previous server all my guild mates will tell you that I never used a non DC, he's the one to be kicked for falsely accusing me" etc...
For the Venusians, please keep your drama in your section, thank you very much for not mixing too much with other servers if you don't want to join.
Love and peace.
:love:

Now practically about Eos, I'll try to connect as soon as possible on the server and create the MoonShade character. Can all of you interested PM me in game? I'll transmit the names to all the future members so that you can add them in your friend list and we can party together before the guild is set up. Let's rock on Eos.

CloudStrider · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 2125 **Location:** Away

There doesn't seem to by the hype within the legit community like with Gaia.

I hope that you get a good union up, but I am sorry there just doesn't seem to be enough enthusiastic, smart and skilled minds going to Eos.

And I doubt I will be able to join you.

Entangle might, we went to Gaia from Odin or somnething now he is in Venus and this was all in a period of a couple weeks.

Inferno_ · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 28 **Location:**

i join

i will make a cleric/wizard

edit : i got one post because i don't remember my old account (LheraJ) and somehow i was logged out :banghead:

Ring · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 109 **Location:** Hell

Taelys wrote:

For the Venusians, please keep your drama in your section, thank you very much for not mixing too much with other servers if you don't want to join.
Love and peace.
:love:

yes please

Taelys wrote:

Now practically about Eos, I'll try to connect as soon as possible on the server and create the MoonShade character. Can all of you interested PM me in game? I'll transmit the names to all the future members so that you can add them in your friend list and we can party together before the guild is set up. Let's rock on Eos.

Ill try

It will have something wih Ring on it

Inferno_ · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 28 **Location:**

Taelys wrote:

Now practically about Eos, I'll try to connect as soon as possible on the server and create the MoonShade character. Can all of you interested PM me in game? I'll transmit the names to all the future members so that you can add them in your friend list and we can party together before the guild is set up. Let's rock on Eos.

i can only join in the evening

i hope the loggin is still eassy

Slaughterman · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 156 **Location:**

I guess it'll be easy for a few hours only. As for me, I can log in ~5-6 hours after opening. Hope it won't be too hard.

iSinnnn · **Posted:** Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:43 pm

The server will be constantly crowded starting 15-30 minutes after it opens. Will last at least until the server gets bumped up to 3500 capacity.

Buy a premium or get farked.

Glhf to anyone that decides to move to Eos..

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

I guess we will have to DC lots of bots when someone of the guild wants to join in, or players with premium access log all out when someone tries to login ^^

Let's hope the best for the access.

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

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