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Guys,

Im dissapointed. I gave you an opportunity to voice your Issues in relation to the Mod team, not a free opportunity to flame all and other members.

Thus, all the topics which is not Related to the Mod team, and what this thread was let to live for shall stop. Immediatley

Anything said from now on, which is not in correspondance with my first reply to this thread can now be met with action. I hope thats understood. Seems like this is the only way to make you concentrate on the topic at hand.

and BlackFox. I have to agree with Demy here.

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Ok Time For My View

Over the last 1 and a half years ive have seen this forums ups and downs
Good members come and gone

Now As a mod im still new to the moderating Deal
this is my first time moderating a forum this big and i will not screw this chance up

You Attack the whole forum for 1 mods mistake
1 mods to strict
1 mods let somthing go

i must say the current state of the forum is like a medievil town in somewhat the year 1078 (Read a histroy book if your not sure what im talking about)

Someone is rich ingame you either bow down to there feet or hate them for life
Flame someone for botting in game
Point fingers at random people saying there a witch Or in this case botter

But the rules clearly state you must admit to botting to be banned form the forum
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Be A Bot supporter. Change your avatar to the pointy-finger bot symbol. Put "0x33" somewhere in your sig. Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread. Ask about how to buy, offer to sell, or post links to bot clients, etc. DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS WILL RESULT IN AN INSTANT BAN. There will be no warnings. There will be no discussion. There is ZERO tolerance.


Now Since Blackfox OR Spirtpower Have Not Admitted to this So This make them obeying the rules . he/shet talk about botting. We have had no seroius complaints about his/her posting he/she maybe annoying as Ryoko Said but he/she is harmless

Now May The Blackfox/Spirtpower Issue PLEASE DIE

Death2U(Forum Name)
Now As long as he follows the forum rules he may stay as long as he likes but as Soda said hes on thin ice for Directly Disobeoying me. He is not immune to us , Neither is anyone else

Death2All Is Easly Fakable in game Such As
Death2AII
Death2ALI
Death2AIL

i could imagine alot of people wanna ruin his reputation because people are Jelous of him

I Cant belive people Can see this....

bout a year ago Huyfong was like this accept without the ego
i loved his alchemy attempts for his +9 glaive i have no id
ea if he still plays Isro But i respected him back then

Now when i went to bed last night this topic was just at 2 pages
now its 11 now this shows how much SRF's been needing this kinda topic to get people to Vent there Anger

Now I Have 6 Hours Of Silver Ticket Time
DO NOT LET ME HAVE TO COME BACK TO SRF UNTIL IT IS DONE
I Play This Game Too

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Dude, i dont wanna start anything im just saying that most of the ppl that flame d2a isnt because they're jealous of him, its because they cant stand his bs when hes nothing he claims to be, and about what hes done to friends of us. But its mainly because of the first reason i said..
But most of you keep thinking its because they're jealous...arrg :banghead:

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Jebus Christ people, it's a forum about a game. Kinda sounds like a Nazi death camp sometimes.

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Dude, i dont wanna start anything im just saying that most of the ppl that flame d2a isnt because they're jealous of him, its because they cant stand his bs when hes nothing he claims to be, and about what hes done to friends of us. But its mainly because of the first reason i said..
But most of you keep thinking its because they're jealous...arrg :banghead:


I am so with you on that, that guy really really needs a hug and for someone to let him know that hes "loved". His out reaches for praise and envy is absolutly sick.

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Jebus Christ people, it's a forum about a game. Kinda sounds like a Nazi death camp sometimes.


kinda ironic coming form you isnt it?

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Vandango .. please don't play the jeaousy card. Because no one is jealous here, juts sick and tired of his blatent bullshit 24/7.

Probably respond to this with something like. Oh I want to be loved by everyone blah blah. Sooo many people dislike D2A yet don't publicly show it. I get enough pm's a day to fill my inbox supporting me.

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well..first of all im American, so I had nothing to do with Nazi death camps, my ancestors actually freed those and saved millions of Jews....learn your history partner and second of all why do you follow me around and up your thread count repsonding to my posts.

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Vandango .. please don't play the jeaousy card. Because no one is jealous here, juts sick and tired of his blatent bullshit 24/7.

Probably respond to this with something like. Oh I want to be loved by everyone blah blah. Sooo many people dislike D2A yet don't publicly show it. I get enough pm's a day to fill my inbox supporting me.


Seriously dude, it pisses me off :/

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I don't even know the guy really but after I seen his post about his gear and then the thread about "do you hate me?" I started to get worried. Then just recently when he posted his paypal and edited everything cept the total just so the kiddies could drool over his 2.5k....I almost called an outreach program on his behalf.

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Braxton wrote:
I don't even know the guy really but after I seen his post about his gear and then the thread about "do you hate me?" I started to get worried. Then just recently when he posted his paypal and edited everything cept the total just so the kiddies could drool over his 2.5k....I almost called an outreach program on his behalf.


Just read some of the posts i made about him on this topic and ull figure everything out lol xD.
Now lets stop talking about d2a aight, kkbai

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well..first of all im American, so I had nothing to do with Nazi death camps, my ancestors actually freed those and saved millions of Jews....learn your history partner and second of all why do you follow me around and up your thread count repsonding to my posts.



lol wut?


I was speaking of the turkish thread where you talked so much shit about them... not you pushing jew in some oven in '45... and I've been reading this thread since it started and just had to point this cause your a clown.

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Clown's are good.

I want to point out something..here is a old thread where I actually stuck up for death2U when someone was flaming him. The only reason I'm posting this is because someone said I was jealous of him. Here is my proof that I Just dont like him...no jealousy here.


http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... highlight=

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Whats the difference with the old SRF, and the new generation seal of sun +9 SRF?

There isn't none. It all looks the same to me.
You must not have been around. Before there was no bot accusations, everyone got along. Someone killed a unique? Regardless of their level, just about everyone would be saying "congrats." Nowadays everyone is like "oh big deal, you're 6x+ leave tg alone for low levels!" Then there's the countless bot bot bot bot bot bot bot bot bot topics. I might have more to add to this topic later, but I woke up 10 minutes ago, and might say something a way I don't want to say it.

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lol, funny, we're jealous of someone with virtual items :roll:

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STFU about D2A.


Interesting, :P

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STFU about D2A.


Interesting, :P


Why is it that interesting? Uhm yes, it comes from the admin. If I'd say that, IceCrash and his crew would be all over the place, but meh, time to STFU myself and keep what I think to myself :)

EDIT: NO offense to anyone. IceCrash and his crew is a generic term defining those who more or less embrace his attitude. This was NOT meant to be directed against specific people. Sorry if I've offended IceCrash in any way.

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[SD]Stress wrote:
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Interesting, :P


Why is it that interesting? Uhm yes, it comes from the admin. If I'd say that, IceCrash and his crew would be all over the place, but meh, time to STFU myself and keep what I think to myself :)

EDIT: NO offense to anyone. IceCrash and his crew is a generic term defining those who more or less embrace his attitude. This was NOT meant to be directed against specific people. Sorry if I've offended IceCrash in any way.


I think everyone got it now lol... if we want a nice forum we should just stop all the e-drama and shit about you know who XD

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[SD]Stress wrote:
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STFU about D2A.


Interesting, :P


Why is it that interesting? Uhm yes, it comes from the admin. If I'd say that, IceCrash and his crew would be all over the place, but meh, time to STFU myself and keep what I think to myself :)

EDIT: NO offense to anyone. IceCrash and his crew is a generic term defining those who more or less embrace his attitude. This was NOT meant to be directed against specific people. Sorry if I've offended IceCrash in any way.


i dont take that as an offence man.. i even said in my last post before this for everyone to stop talking about d2a..
And if you posted what sg did, me and "my crew" lol... wouldnt say anything about that..ive agreed to stfu, and even if i didnt what could i say about that? "zomg ur suking up" it wouldnt make sence...because it wasnt right you were just sik of listening everyone talking about d2a so, i wouldnt say anything.
now ppl stop going on about this shit and i will finally be able to friking stfu about it.

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I think everyone got it now lol... if we want a nice forum we should just stop all the e-drama and shit about you know who XD


lol! haha :D

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STFU about D2A.


whos the man? your the man! :P lay down the smack and these kids will have a bit more respect.

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How to Give Effective Criticisms:

A. Identify the behavior that you want to criticize. Direct your criticism at the action, not the person. When you criticize a a person, then you are attacking their sense of identity. This is highly likely to provoke a fight.

B. Make criticisms specific. Not "You always abuse your power and are a bad mod!" but "You locked a good thread xyz and I thought it'd be more appropiate to clean out the thread an give warnings instead."

C. Be sure the behavior you're criticizing can be changed and fixed. For instance, don't criticize a person because they are a Turk or because someone is stronger and/or have more gold and/or better gears than you lol. If everyone would accept the fact that there are things in life they have no control over, then this thread will be only 2 or 3 pages long and not about 10 pages about single person.

D. Use "we" to stress that you want to work out the problems together, rather than making threats.

E. Make sure the other person understands the reason for your criticism.

F. Don't set a tone of anger, contempt, or sarcasm. They are counterproductive. For example:

[NF]IceCrash wrote:
Ryoko, i know you're the owner of this forum.
But shut the **** up about what you dont know a single piss of shit about.
gtfo!!


This is an example. When you make a provocative post similar to that, you present yourself as an uneducated person and a bigot. As a result, people will not take you seriously and will shrug you off. This is the kind of immaturity from the D2U jealousy camp that is the reason why SRF is going downhill. Every members here deserve to be treated with respect no matter who they are, what race they are, what their level in the game are, how much gold they have, and how much SoSuns they have. If someone who is a member here happens to be well off, praise them and congrats them or don't say anything at all if you are jealous.

She alreaddy said she does not hack:

Death2U wrote:
I don't know why people are accusing me of hacking all the time. I treat everyone in this game as family members that I would hate losing over some lousy money/gold/virtual items. :love:


She already claims she doesn't hack. What are people trying to accomplish? To get her to admit she hacks?


G. Don't belabor the point. Short and sweet; no lectures.


H. Make sure that it is clearly understood that the two of you should not have to hold this conversation again. If you criticize/flame a person, you do not need to mention it again and again over and over again in other threads for the same accusation. People on this forum are not stupid. You do not need to rehash how D2U is a hacker over and over like they are deaf. I personally do not believe that D2U can hack, as there has been no evidence to suggest otherwise. Anyone can create an account on another server and global "Join my guild or I will hack you", but does this mean they can hack?


Like Karlos said, when someone is better off, people tend envy them or hate them. This applies in real life and in the game. No matter how a few people in this thread deny they are jealous of D2U, the fact of the matter is that if D2U doesn't have SoSun gears and money, none of this D2U-bashing will occur. I'm sure everyone will agree with that. This bring us to HuyFong. HuyFong was a good person. It was a sad day for SRF when little kids get jealous and the accusations against HuyFong drove him away. You kids successfuly drove HuyFong off, but you will not succeed driving off D2U no matter how hard you try. As GrimJaw said, you are not up to her level to drive her away. She will laugh at you and make you look like idiots because this is nothing new to her and it has been happening since 2006. She will make you look bad the more you flame her. You can put it in your sigs accusing her of things, but this is leading nowhere and will make you look immature to an impartial person.


Hopefully this will teach people a new life's lesson. Also, SuicideGrl tries her best to keep this forum healthy and a fair place to everyone, so no need for insults. <3 SuicideGrl. P.S. Did you receive my PM I sent you last week?


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Key-J wrote:
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Im dissapointed. I gave you an opportunity to voice your Issues in relation to the Mod team, not a free opportunity to flame all and other members.

Thus, all the topics which is not Related to the Mod team, and what this thread was let to live for shall stop. Immediatley

Anything said from now on, which is not in correspondance with my first reply to this thread can now be met with action. I hope thats understood. Seems like this is the only way to make you concentrate on the topic at hand.

and BlackFox. I have to agree with Demy here.


I have to agree Key-J. The only thing all the flames/accusations and whatnot do is bring down the quality of the forum. I like the idea of having a thread like this where people can voice their opinions about the mod team (good or bad) without fear of being punished. Sometimes that is needed.

It's kind of sad how people have problems with the mod team, but when they are given the chance to openly rant about it, the entire thread turns into a "let's bash Blackfox/Death2U" thread.

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How to Give Effective Criticisms:

A. Identify the behavior that you want to criticize. Direct your criticism at the action, not the person. When you criticize a a person, then you are attacking their sense of identity. This is highly likely to provoke a fight.

B. Make criticisms specific. Not "You always abuse your power and are a bad mod!" but "You locked a good thread xyz and I thought it'd be more appropiate to clean out the thread an give warnings instead."

C. Be sure the behavior you're criticizing can be changed and fixed. For instance, don't criticize a person because they are a Turk or because someone is stronger and/or have more gold and/or better gears than you lol. If everyone would accept the fact that there are things in life they have no control over, then this thread will be only 2 or 3 pages long and not about 10 pages about single person.

D. Use "we" to stress that you want to work out the problems together, rather than making threats.

E. Make sure the other person understands the reason for your criticism.

F. Don't set a tone of anger, contempt, or sarcasm. They are counterproductive. For example:

[NF]IceCrash wrote:
Ryoko, i know you're the owner of this forum.
But shut the **** up about what you dont know a single piss of shit about.
gtfo!!


This is an example. When you make a provocative post similar to that, you present yourself as an uneducated person and a bigot. As a result, people will not take you seriously and will shrug you off. This is the kind of immaturity from the D2U jealousy camp that is the reason why SRF is going downhill. Every members here deserve to be treated with respect no matter who they are, what race they are, what their level in the game are, how much gold they have, and how much SoSuns they have. If someone who is a member here happens to be well off, praise them and congrats them or don't say anything at all if you are jealous.

She alreaddy said she does not hack:

Death2U wrote:
I don't know why people are accusing me of hacking all the time. I treat everyone in this game as family members that I would hate losing over some lousy money/gold/virtual items. :love:


She already claims she doesn't hack. What are people trying to accomplish? To get her to admit she hacks?


G. Don't belabor the point. Short and sweet; no lectures.


H. Make sure that it is clearly understood that the two of you should not have to hold this conversation again. If you criticize/flame a person, you do not need to mention it again and again over and over again in other threads for the same accusation. People on this forum are not stupid. You do not need to rehash how D2U is a hacker over and over like they are deaf. I personally do not believe that D2U can hack, as there has been no evidence to suggest otherwise. Anyone can create an account on another server and global "Join my guild or I will hack you", but does this mean they can hack?


Like Karlos said, when someone is better off, people tend envy them or hate them. This applies in real life and in the game. No matter how a few people in this thread deny they are jealous of D2U, the fact of the matter is that if D2U doesn't have SoSun gears and money, none of this D2U-bashing will occur. I'm sure everyone will agree with that. This bring us to HuyFong. HuyFong was a good person. It was a sad day for SRF when little kids get jealous and the accusations against HuyFong drove him away. You kids successfuly drove HuyFong off, but you will not succeed driving off D2U no matter how hard you try. As GrimJaw said, you are not up to her level to drive her away. She will laugh at you and make you look like idiots because this is nothing new to her and it has been happening since 2006. She will make you look bad the more you flame her. You can put it in your sigs accusing her of things, but this is leading nowhere and will make you look immature to an impartial person.


Hopefully this will teach people a new life's lesson. Also, SuicideGrl tries her best to keep this forum healthy and a fair place to everyone, so no need for insults. <3 SuicideGrl. P.S. Did you receive my PM I sent you last week?


Well, i wont threat everyone with the same respect, ill threat someone however i know him or not, what he does or noot, what he supports and what he does not.
I dont know ryoko, for me hes just a guy ,idc he owns forums, that randomly start supporting d2a in a way.
After all that happened it got me badly pissed, as you can see through my answer lol.
Idc about all you ppl, that see me as whiner, jealous of d2a, i only care about the ppl i know.
So can you guys stop going on it so i can finally stfu?
or do you have anything else to say?

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I see the way the moderating team acts appropriate. This is my view of it. Whenever I asked a mod to explain a lock or another, I got a nice reply.

For example, I was one of the few that asked Key-J why the Ask Black thread was locked. Remember?

The answer was calm and explained the reasons. I understood and agreed with the matter.


There are more examples I will not write here.


But maybe sometimes, the discussions should be left to flow. Mods should remove the flames and not lock the topic, allowing other people to express their way of thinking regarding the specific problem. More opinions should be heard, rather then pushing the problem under the carpet.

Covering up a stain of acid does not make it disappear. It stays there. Always. And in time, the acid will eat through the cover. And so, it gets covered over and over again.

But what if the acid were neutralized? Would there be need to cover it up over and over again?

EDIT: Check this out: http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... 2&start=30

People simply don't learn. Look at the bottom of the page. Pointless accusations again.

The way I see it, the flames should be removed, and the thread left to live so as more people to see that there is hope left :wink:

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LOL I should just ban anyone who says "Yo admin hey **** off"

But honestly

I'd rather rig their avatar to say "Forum Retard" or something. Thats much much funnier.


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Look at the bottom of the page. Pointless accusations again.


I'm sorry, if you're talking about me, I read D2A's post as an admission. The "other" 1%, etc. etc. Let me read it again and see if I reach another conclusion.

Nope. Still reads like someone holding a legit in contempt. Sorry, maybe I'm not following along very well but that's how it reads to me.


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EDIT: I still don't understand why people are still beating the old D2A horse. Lay off it for one minute. (IceCrash (retard))

I am going to have to agree with Dem here. I am not going to sit here and blame Ryoko for leaving and harping on him. That is the reason the forum died though. I know I'm not the oldest member, most popular, or most respected, but I've witnessed the death of this community. I cant think of names, nor do I want to list them. It would just create problems, which I dont think we dont need any more of.

Obviously new mods were needed. I'm not going to be the first or last to say I didnt approve of all the choices.

Dem was RIGHT! But, because he disagreed with a mod, not about a disciplinary action, but a random thing, he gets the hammer. Just this zealous powertrip by cin proves there's something wrong. Also like Dem said, the thing that was posted led partially to SG's hacking.

Thats all I can really say right now. Couldn't be bothered to memorize everyone's responses.

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angelfire101 wrote:
guys with tough balls should do this; go to joymax office and literally beat them up. now you guys should only beat up dudes who work on big offices of joymax. you must record it and make US SEE BLEEDING JOYMAX EMPLOYEES! AINT THAT FREAKIN GREAT!


Last edited by Belgarath on Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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