Avalon VS Epic [56K WARNING]

Berto · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 835 **Location:**

mike2007 wrote:

Berto wrote:

Someone in Epic named Phuk and someone in Blackhand named Phucker lulz

got a problem with that?

I don't care about accusations, I found the coincidence ironic.

[SD]Kratos · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4787 **Location:**

Rematch next week

Odyssey vs Pepsi

All legits vs all bots

Blindfire · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 3844 **Location:** ...

penfold1992 wrote:

ONT! are avalon reali splitting? seems like a lot of effort to giv in to botters.... avalon guild makes no1 legit guild, only legit guild to stay on top. yet disbands. epic fail?

You do realise that Avalon has a full union of legits, BHA has a full union of legits, Blade has a union of 7 legit guilds and Ryukang has a union of 7 legit guilds. There are also 15 other non-unioned legit guilds. Avalon is not every legit on Venus, they are just the originals.

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

Berto wrote:

OH SHEEEEEeeeeTTTttt SONNnn

Avalon lost :wink:

I'm sure it would have turned out a lot different if Epic didn't start the war an hour early, when a lot of Avalon players weren't even online, and if they didn't pull in a lot of outside players into their guild, and didn't have outside ressers, and didn't use pk2 stealth edits, and....

It's sad. They have to cheat at the game, botting, and then have to cheat just to win a guild war.

How about starting the war on time, away from town so you can't use the safe zone, away from hundreds of spectators that lag the game, and for once, try not to cheat so much.

Kaigar · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 252 **Location:** Australia

penfold1992 wrote:

i have to agree. this isnt general discussion

this is another VENUS RULES WITH LEGITS thread which us non legits dont seem 2 care about?
can you please keep the venus discussion in the venus room?

Is this some sort of admission or what?

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

^

LOL! This war is showing a few people's real colors.

antics · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:14 am

NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:

Berto wrote:

bebrazz wrote:

so its fall of all legits in venus? :roll:

lol

It's bound to happen eventually. The only thing left is losing the fortress. One may think that fortress is nothing compared to the message of legits. NOPE, they'll learn true colors once the Jangan fortress falls to the other union, there wouldn't be a base to prove playing a legit union is better than botting, because you'll just be inferior to the botter's uni, thus - the Union and message begins to deteriorate and crumble as did all the other servers =)
Only a matter of t-t-timeeeeeeeEeeEEe.

That's depressing

From what I gathered. Epic Won. Avalon is refusing to disband, claims that they're cheaters because they recruited all the bots they could find that were FF capped with good sets from their union AND had outside buffers.

was it somewhere in the rules they couldnt recruit at the last minute?

Corrupt · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 548 **Location:**

What's the point in having a "Guild" if you hop around whenever someone has a war? War is over and everyone goes back to their own lifeless bot guild.....I can't believe people who bot enjoy this game one bit.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

antics wrote:

NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:

From what I gathered. Epic Won. Avalon is refusing to disband, claims that they're cheaters because they recruited all the bots they could find that were FF capped with good sets from their union AND had outside buffers.

was it somewhere in the rules they couldnt recruit at the last minute?

When blasjr first asked me to make this "bet" I said we would do it if they played "straight". They didnt, they were adding people from guilds outside their own union even. They recruited another union to act as outside buffers. I mean it was crazy the amount of cheating going on. That is hardly playing "straight". And I dont want to hear that ringing in players from all over the server is fair, cause its not. We agreed to fight Epic, not Epic + every other botter awake during that one hour period.

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

nightbloom wrote:

antics wrote:

NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:

From what I gathered. Epic Won. Avalon is refusing to disband, claims that they're cheaters because they recruited all the bots they could find that were FF capped with good sets from their union AND had outside buffers.

was it somewhere in the rules they couldnt recruit at the last minute?

When blasjr first asked me to make this "bet" I said we would do it if they played "straight". They didnt, they were adding people from guilds outside their own union even. They recruited another union to act as outside buffers. I mean it was crazy the amount of cheating going on. That is hardly playing "straight". And I dont want to hear that ringing in players from all over the server is fair, cause its not. We agreed to fight Epic, not Epic + every other botter awake during that one hour period.

You are right there, but to think b0ters play fair ... not even legits play fair most time.
Can blame it on the game system (or jm), would be easy to port warring guilds in to an arena like ctf. (well better then ctf)

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

gl to all legits on venus...dont let this bring ya down lol

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

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off-topic...damn lol... :roll:

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Avalon should let some other legit guild take the fortress *like Blackhand* and disband. Don't use the fortress as an excuse to not disband.

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

Avalon should let some other legit guild take the fortress *like Blackhand* and disband. Don't use the fortress as an excuse to not disband.

are u certain that what nightbloom said is incorrect? Maybe you really cant disband when holding the fortress...although I cant prove whether thats true or not lol

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Bop wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Avalon should let some other legit guild take the fortress *like Blackhand* and disband. Don't use the fortress as an excuse to not disband.

are u certain that what nightbloom said is incorrect? Maybe you really cant disband when holding the fortress...although I cant prove whether thats true or not lol

I'm sure what NB said is correct. However, they should let some other legit guild tak the fortress such as Blackhand during the next FW. Avalon should relinquish it's FW rights and disband.

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

Bop wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Avalon should let some other legit guild take the fortress *like Blackhand* and disband. Don't use the fortress as an excuse to not disband.

are u certain that what nightbloom said is incorrect? Maybe you really cant disband when holding the fortress...although I cant prove whether thats true or not lol

I'm sure what NB said is correct. However, they should let some other legit guild tak the fortress such as Blackhand during the next FW. Avalon should relinquish it's FW rights and disband.

I'm sure after this...there will be a lot more botters at next FW..and Avalon cant just "pass" FW to another guild..it has to be worked for, although Avalon can aid another legit guild in getting the fortress and then disbanding rather than some botter guild taking it.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Exactly what I meant

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

We did not agree to give up the fortress. We did not agree to disband the union. None of those things were mentioned. When someone takes the fortress, they can have it. They tried to cheat using the wall exploit to get it and failed over and over. They tried to take us down this way instead. They cannot cheat to win, I refuse. If they want to fight a fair war, Epic vs. Avalon, we are here. But next time, we wont send the invite if there are people from outside the guild added and hiding in the city like there was this time.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

nightbloom wrote:

We did not agree to give up the fortress. We did not agree to disband the union.

Mention anything about disbanding the guild? j/w

Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

Well I hope that a Legit union does not loose the fortress....defending is one thing but trying to take it back is another, just depends how organize the union is but its much more easier to defend then atk....but of course if the majority of attacking guild are euro with cleric sub it shouldn't be hard to take it back.

things that can happen is all other botters is the server will atk. you when trying to take it...just means you will be upon against the defending union and all others "botters" attacking from behind...again if avalon does have alliance outside there union it wouldn't be much of a problem either

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Ragnorak wrote:

Well I hope that a Legit union does not loose the fortress

A legit union would still control the fortress. BHA

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

Ragnorak wrote:

Well I hope that a Legit union does not loose the fortress

A legit union would still control the fortress. BHA

I dont think BHA WANTS the fortress tbh. grace says they dont have enough people that can get up that early, that a lot of their members are in school, etc... Avalon never agreed to "give away" the fortress to a guild of your choosing.

The original deal was to play fair and Epic didnt. I dont think I am breaking any kind of agreement that wasnt already null and void.

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

Ragnorak wrote:

Well I hope that a Legit union does not loose the fortress

A legit union would still control the fortress. BHA

the only guild in bha that could even stand a chance at defending it is SuddenDeath and even they cant do it without proper union support. bha has alot of growing to do before they can carry on the fight, and refusing to kick inactive and dead guilds like upb_knights is not the way to go in proving you can make the hard choices that war requires of a leader.

sometimes a battle must be lost in order for the war to be won. the past few months on venus have been super inactive and legits have been getting lazy. Now legits are all comming together, some out of loyalty, some out of fear of loseing the server. the next few months will be terror unleashed on the unsuspecting bots.

Snoopy · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:38 am

nightbloom wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Ragnorak wrote:

Well I hope that a Legit union does not loose the fortress

A legit union would still control the fortress. BHA

I dont think BHA WANTS the fortress tbh. grace says they dont have enough people that can get up that early, that a lot of their members are in school, etc... Avalon never agreed to "give away" the fortress to a guild of your choosing.

The original deal was to play fair and Epic didnt. I dont think I am breaking any kind of agreement that wasnt already null and void.

I think you shouldn't disband your guild. If they bend the rules, you bend them too. Hope Avalon never dies.

Keep up the good work on Venus NB.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

yea, what epic did was retarded. they didn't honor the rules, why should u? no one's gonna look down on u for not disbanding.

Guardia · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1187 **Location:**

We'll still be here. Avalon will stay. Period.

Snoopy · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:59 am

TOloseGT wrote:

yea, what epic did was retarded. they didn't honor the rules, why should u? no one's gonna look down on u for not disbanding.

Can't believe you haven't derailed this thread yet ;D. :love:

Keep Avalon alive Guardia

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

seriously, it pisses me off how so many ppl here think avalon should disband. i mean wtf, from what i understand, avalon and epic "agreed" on a set of rules which epic blatantly ignored. sure, avalon might have gotten some help, but the help epic received is ridiculous. if bots think they won, they're lying to themselves. they won a hollow victory, avalon still owns epic.

iGoddess · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:06 am

You all take this so seriously, all that talking about "Wars" and "Battles" and stuff.
Go join the Army, would ya..

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:21 am

Haha pwned guys, pwned.
Finally they got beaten, now you can't come up screaming "OMG WERE THE BEST OF VENUS"..

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