Why someone shouldn't be legit... from one's own experience.

Gaigemasta · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 4474 **Location:**

I don't see botting as wallhacks in call of duty or aimbots in css. Botting has changed SRO, has become part of the game, and will never leave unless JM does something about it. I got in small argument about botting with a mod one time over IM and they called me a bot supporter :soosad:

I really don't feel like persecuting 99% of sro players, all I want gone is the gold bots

ltsune · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 5751 **Location:**

JuelzSantana wrote:

besides the people on this forum that "claim" to be legit, ive never met one person that is, and if they were they quit a looong time ago. not only does it sound IMPOSSIBLE to be 110 and legit, it sounds sad. that kid with the 86 and legit sounded reasonable cuz he had prem and a euro party and he also said he didnt finish those 3 hours but 110 and legit? are you kidding me? thats like telling me you walked on top of water, its so unbelieveable that unless i see it IN PERSON, in a lake of my choice then u cant possibly expect me to believe it. unless u have a video of you grinding every single day from 99 to 110, like a video showing YOU sitting at your computer grinding that much then ur lying, and you know for a fact you're lying. and if you DO have a video showing that, then you need to go outside breathe some fresh air and jog, cuz you are missing out on life. and thats the saddest part of it. you wont get any kudos from me, i wept when i read ur post.

edit: i saw something before about sp rates and exp rates, if they gave atleast x3 rates and they gave people quests every couple of lvls that let u gain sp like the ones at 105 trust me this game would be such a huge success.

In a little over 2 months, the first people who started on Azteca are now at level 85-92. Sure, they play quite a lot, but it's not like they're sitting there, playing 10 hours a day. That's not needed at all if you always have a party ready. Just ask for example Tasdik. He's SummerFrost at Azteca and about lvl 88 now.

So, if you've never met a person here from SRF, who is actually legit, then you should come to Azteca and look around, lol

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:16 pm

JuelzSantana wrote:

besides the people on this forum that "claim" to be legit, ive never met one person that is, and if they were they quit a looong time ago. not only does it sound IMPOSSIBLE to be 110 and legit, it sounds sad. that kid with the 86 and legit sounded reasonable cuz he had prem and a euro party and he also said he didnt finish those 3 hours but 110 and legit? are you kidding me? thats like telling me you walked on top of water, its so unbelieveable that unless i see it IN PERSON, in a lake of my choice then u cant possibly expect me to believe it. unless u have a video of you grinding every single day from 99 to 110, like a video showing YOU sitting at your computer grinding that much then ur lying, and you know for a fact you're lying. and if you DO have a video showing that, then you need to go outside breathe some fresh air and jog, cuz you are missing out on life. and thats the saddest part of it. you wont get any kudos from me, i wept when i read ur post.

edit: i saw something before about sp rates and exp rates, if they gave atleast x3 rates and they gave people quests every couple of lvls that let u gain sp like the ones at 105 trust me this game would be such a huge success.

My friend is 108 Legit Has a job a old lady and kids wich he spends 100% time with every weekend yet he is LEGIT, Same for me i'm 107 a REALLY busy student starting up my OWN company yet i'm 107 LEGIT.Nothing is impossible its quite easy to be legit. The time you spend masturbating and watching TV everyday is a waste of time aswell and is sad. If you think playing a game for fun is wasting time then perhaps you should dedicate 23 Hours of your day to school and Work and not have any kind of fun at all because thats a waste of time isn't it ?.

Corrupt · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 548 **Location:**

Actually, "play quite a lot" is an understatement. I barely work of my 5 hours, waste most of it running through the cave and occasionally help the group 10ish lvls lower on mobs that give me shit exp. So pretty much I can grind almost 3 hours of ticket on good mobs then just **** around the rest of the day.

92 and only started a premium+ at about 81. The new quests and a solid group that grinds at least 3 hours a day is not that demanding for any game. Especially if you're a gamer.....There is no "OMG NO WAY YOU CAN LVL 110 LEGITLY HURRR" you work off your ticket each day then do w/e you want for the rest of the time.

If you play a game, play to enjoy it. How is NOT playing the game doing anything for you? I really don't see why people bot. Leveling is easy, SP farming is a bitch until job cave, and I enjoy playing a few hours a day with my friends.

Getting to the cap is far more fun than being at cap. I've experienced this 60, 80, 90, some of 100, and soon to be 110 cap all over again. Once people hit the cap they get bored, or stand around in capes and stare at each other. When the rest of the population is botting the game is dead.

I would never bother installing a bot to NOT play a game, I'd rather just uninstall and go enjoy another one with the people I enjoy playing with.

apan · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 958 **Location:**

As far as I see it, most people whouldn't mind the low EXP rates if it wasn't for the SP rates... If you could actually lvl 1 mastery to lvl 110 without SP farming it would be a plus.

SP farming = reason why most people bot

EDIT: noticed some spellingerrors ^^

Cobalt · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 15 **Location:** USA

apan wrote:

As far as I see it, most people whouldn't mid the low EXP rates if it wasn't for the SP rates... If you could actually lvl 1 mastery to lvl 110 with Sp farming it would be a plus.

SP farming = reason why most people bot

I hate to agree. It is impossible to keep your masteries up to date without SP farming at all. If you were to try and 0 gap to 50 without farming sp, you wouldn't have any skills. That's pretty absurd and it only gets much much worse after that. 100-110 takes more sp than you would get doing a 9 gap from 90-100.

Anyways I don't advocate botting but this games rates are so horrible I really don't blame people as much as I would in any other game (except people who get greedy and have like 2 8/8 parties by themselves... they can go die in a fire.)

JuelzSantana · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 720 **Location:**

_Dutchy_ wrote:

JuelzSantana wrote:

besides the people on this forum that "claim" to be legit, ive never met one person that is, and if they were they quit a looong time ago. not only does it sound IMPOSSIBLE to be 110 and legit, it sounds sad. that kid with the 86 and legit sounded reasonable cuz he had prem and a euro party and he also said he didnt finish those 3 hours but 110 and legit? are you kidding me? thats like telling me you walked on top of water, its so unbelieveable that unless i see it IN PERSON, in a lake of my choice then u cant possibly expect me to believe it. unless u have a video of you grinding every single day from 99 to 110, like a video showing YOU sitting at your computer grinding that much then ur lying, and you know for a fact you're lying. and if you DO have a video showing that, then you need to go outside breathe some fresh air and jog, cuz you are missing out on life. and thats the saddest part of it. you wont get any kudos from me, i wept when i read ur post.

edit: i saw something before about sp rates and exp rates, if they gave atleast x3 rates and they gave people quests every couple of lvls that let u gain sp like the ones at 105 trust me this game would be such a huge success.

My friend is 108 Legit Has a job a old lady and kids wich he spends 100% time with every weekend yet he is LEGIT, Same for me i'm 107 a REALLY busy student starting up my OWN company yet i'm 107 LEGIT.Nothing is impossible its quite easy to be legit. The time you spend masturbating and watching TV everyday is a waste of time aswell and is sad. If you think playing a game for fun is wasting time then perhaps you should dedicate 23 Hours of your day to school and Work and not have any kind of fun at all because thats a waste of time isn't it ?.

nah actually for your information jackass im not a scrub like yourself. im in nursing school, i study constantly and i also work in a hospital on the cardiac floor and the labor and delivery unit. i take my girlfriend out on my free time and i do martial arts. i do everything BUT watch tv and jerk off. and u know what else i dont do? i dont waste my life playing silkroad

i literally CANT say im 107 cuz i dont have the time to sit there. you bot and your friend bots ur just too much of a p***y to admit it and thats ok. and im saying you're botting cuz i hope to GOD you are botting. because if you're not like i said you're sad.. 107 without botting, you mean to tell me you actually dedicate an hour of your life everyday to silkroad? and hour a day and you made it to 107 LOL? even with premium an hour a day, you need to farm, how did you farm? you had somebody bot for you ;D you mean to tell me you legit farmed for yourself and hit 107 in a couple of months using 1 hour a day? gtfo.. like i said you sound so pathetic right now, you should be anything but proud of your character. everyone has their way of life, but in society yours is frowned upon.

edit: yo post ur pic, i know for a fact ur overweight

apan · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 958 **Location:**

Cobalt wrote:

apan wrote:

As far as I see it, most people whouldn't mid the low EXP rates if it wasn't for the SP rates... If you could actually lvl 1 mastery to lvl 110 with Sp farming it would be a plus.

SP farming = reason why most people bot

I hate to agree. It is impossible to keep your masteries up to date without SP farming at all. If you were to try and 0 gap to 50 without farming sp, you wouldn't have any skills. That's pretty absurd and it only gets much much worse after that. 100-110 takes more sp than you would get doing a 9 gap from 90-100.

Anyways I don't advocate botting but this games rates are so horrible I really don't blame people as much as I would in any other game (except people who get greedy and have like 2 8/8 parties by themselves... they can go die in a fire.)

Exactly. You actually can't level up even one mastery (with skills) from 1-110 with 0gap. To to that you need to have a 5gap from lvl 5-109. And then you will sttill be 50k short

Balderdash · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:58 pm

JuelzSantana wrote:

nah actually for your information jackass im not a scrub like yourself. im in nursing school, i study constantly and i also work in a hospital on the cardiac floor and the labor and delivery unit. i take my girlfriend out on my free time and i do martial arts. i do everything BUT watch tv and jerk off. and u know what else i dont do? i dont waste my life playing silkroad

i literally CANT say im 107 cuz i dont have the time to sit there. you bot and your friend bots ur just too much of a p***y to admit it and thats ok. and im saying you're botting cuz i hope to GOD you are botting. because if you're not like i said you're sad.. 107 without botting, you mean to tell me you actually dedicate an hour of your life everyday to silkroad? and hour a day and you made it to 107 LOL? even with premium an hour a day, you need to farm, how did you farm? you had somebody bot for you ;D you mean to tell me you legit farmed for yourself and hit 107 in a couple of months using 1 hour a day? gtfo.. like i said you sound so pathetic right now, you should be anything but proud of your character. everyone has their way of life, but in society yours is frowned upon.

edit: yo post ur pic, i know for a fact ur overweight

...And nurses are supposed to be kind and empathetic.

Lighten up princess.

lentyski · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 118 **Location:** USA

I personally thought I would only see reasons on this forum why you should ONLY be legit.

Never thought I would see one why you shouldn't...o.0.

Eh...oh well looks like the bots are taking over this forum... :soosad:

Toasty · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 2568 **Location:**

lentyski wrote:

I personally thought I would only see reasons on this forum why you should ONLY be legit.

Never thought I would see one why you shouldn't...o.0.

Eh...oh well looks like the bots are taking over this forum... :soosad:

barely anyone on srf plays sro.

Cobalt · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 15 **Location:** USA

lentyski wrote:

I personally thought I would only see reasons on this forum why you should ONLY be legit.

Never thought I would see one why you shouldn't...o.0.

Eh...oh well looks like the bots are taking over this forum... :soosad:

This game has changed dramatically. It's not entirely the communities fault. The game has become increasingly more difficult to even somewhat compete now and without a TON of time on your hands it would take you years of fighting with bots (since there are only so many training areas) to even think about being a high level.

And unlike most other games, the road isn't exactly fun I can only imagine the :banghead:

you would experience at 90+ as I am already :banghead:

at level 50. Several hours to get a level when you have a suped up weapon in a Euro party that knows what they are doing? Ffs. I know I wont make it to 80+ lol.

Balderdash · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:29 pm

Cobalt wrote:

And unlike most other games, the road isn't exactly fun I can only imagine the :banghead:

you would experience at 90+ as I am already :banghead:

at level 50. Several hours to get a level when you have a suped up weapon in a Euro party that knows what they are doing? Ffs. I know I wont make it to 80+ lol.

This is just not true. I wish people would stop saying it.

Here is my char. You can see that my gear is not just bad, it's crap. Its all dropped junk with terrible stats and just a few blues because I am lazy. I got to level 90 in almost exactly 2 months. I know because my 2nd ticket ends today and I am at 70% of lvl 90. I am a pure int cleric with just a little bit of warrior for shield trash.

I am going to repeat that I hardly EVER finish my ticket time. I probably have wasted a good fifth of that ticket, maybe more. Getting to 90 was pretty effortless. YES, it does take a good party who shows up everyday at the same time. Not everyone can do that right away but its pretty easy to work your way into one or make up a schedule with people you know (like, Im going to be here at 4:00 PM on Mon Tues Wed Thursday but not Fri Sat Sun). You will need at least 5 static party members, the wizards and bards can be subbed in as needed because frankly, those are pretty unskilled positions in the party. Good tanks, a few wizards and cleric are important.

Always train at mobs that nearly kill you. If the partying is easy, you need to move up. Stay at mobs that are 10 levels higher. If you ain't dyin, you ain't tryin. Try to keep a full euro party. While its nice to plevel ur chinese friends, they gain xp differently and that will affect you. Now people will blah blah blah about how this works and that works, this part isnt true, that part is... but frankly, you can see that it does because I am 90, FF with crap gears in 2 months.

lentyski · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 118 **Location:** USA

+1 to the above message.

Gaigemasta · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 4474 **Location:**

ffs, any euro who bitches about time to lv while in a full share pt can just stfu, im a int nuker and I lv faster than str chn, but when I joined my guild, my gm has made a new char and was only one lv higher than me, hes lv 105 now, and I'm lv 91, we play about the same, he just has nice euro parties, so quit your baby crying on how long it takes you to level

http://www.rev6.com/player/Babel/VendettaForV.html

Cobalt · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 15 **Location:** USA

Balderdash wrote:

Cobalt wrote:

And unlike most other games, the road isn't exactly fun I can only imagine the :banghead:

you would experience at 90+ as I am already :banghead:

at level 50. Several hours to get a level when you have a suped up weapon in a Euro party that knows what they are doing? Ffs. I know I wont make it to 80+ lol.

This is just not true. I wish people would stop saying it.

Here is my char. You can see that my gear is not just bad, it's crap. Its all dropped junk with terrible stats and just a few blues because I am lazy. I got to level 90 in almost exactly 2 months. I know because my 2nd ticket ends today and I am at 70% of lvl 90. I am a pure int cleric with just a little bit of warrior for shield trash.

I am going to repeat that I hardly EVER finish my ticket time. I probably have wasted a good fifth of that ticket, maybe more. Getting to 90 was pretty effortless. YES, it does take a good party who shows up everyday at the same time. Not everyone can do that right away but its pretty easy to work your way into one or make up a schedule with people you know (like, Im going to be here at 4:00 PM on Mon Tues Wed Thursday but not Fri Sat Sun). You will need at least 5 static party members, the wizards and bards can be subbed in as needed because frankly, those are pretty unskilled positions in the party. Good tanks, a few wizards and cleric are important.

Always train at mobs that nearly kill you. If the partying is easy, you need to move up. Stay at mobs that are 10 levels higher. If you ain't dyin, you ain't tryin. Try to keep a full euro party. While its nice to plevel ur chinese friends, they gain xp differently and that will affect you. Now people will blah blah blah about how this works and that works, this part isnt true, that part is... but frankly, you can see that it does because I am 90, FF with crap gears in 2 months.

Oh believe me all of that would be great if I had met other legits in my time on Mena. I have met maybe 4 people and they never log in. Also I don't play this game at regular times due to my work schedule so I could never say "I will be on at x time on y day" I'm also not going to spend more money on this game, I spent 50$ three years ago and when I logged in to this account like a month ago I found about 250 of the silk left. I used 49 on a clock on Odin... then I changed servers to Mena because Rev6 said it had the lowest overall level and the smallest amount of people because Odin had level 100-110 plvling everywhere my character went and it was impossible to level.

I then dropped the rest of my silk into my characters on Mena, a lootpet and some Pop cards to get a SoSun 24 staff and SoSun 42 staff. It wasn't until after I did that did I find out about Azteca's "movement" :banghead:

Either way you are saying you spend 29$+ a month on this game and getting into competent non-bot parties and grinding for several hours a day to get to level 90 in two months. If getting competent non-bot parties was easier to do I wouldn't be complaining at all. Hell if getting competent parties in ANY game was easier to do I wouldn't be playing this one lol.

ps. at the guy above me, that only furthers the idiocy and imbalance this game has. What other game do you know of that makes it so painful to level up with meh rewards along the way?

I think the only reason I play is because I wanted to get so far in this game back in 60/80 cap and never got much farther than the first areas. I also love playing it on max detail, looks pretty cool.

Balderdash · **Posted:** Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:59 am

That is why you make chars on servers with a lot of legits.

ZaKnighT · **Joined:** Sep 2009 **Posts:** 1730 **Location:** home

before any one starts to talk shit about me.. i quit and gave my chars away long time =).. however.. sro i heard will release an ingame bot thats gonna be a slap to all the legits.. i quit because i was busy in work / college / gf.. and also i didnt want to bot and if i didnt want to bot it means sro isnt the game for me.. and to be honest Goseki is a 100% true.. lets see how the new legit movements stand with botters at lvls 110 with full nova.. its normal for them to win at low lvls because they are skilled and its easy to level.. but lets see when they start hitting level 90 and it gets nasty.. and i bet any char who is 100 + is a botter (not accusing any one) but its true and its a fact.. yes i had a 104 char before i quit the game.. but thats because a friend gave it to me =) !!

Kronos · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 828 **Location:**

Cobalt wrote:

Balderdash wrote:

Cobalt wrote:

And unlike most other games, the road isn't exactly fun I can only imagine the :banghead:

you would experience at 90+ as I am already :banghead:

at level 50. Several hours to get a level when you have a suped up weapon in a Euro party that knows what they are doing? Ffs. I know I wont make it to 80+ lol.

This is just not true. I wish people would stop saying it.

Here is my char. You can see that my gear is not just bad, it's crap. Its all dropped junk with terrible stats and just a few blues because I am lazy. I got to level 90 in almost exactly 2 months. I know because my 2nd ticket ends today and I am at 70% of lvl 90. I am a pure int cleric with just a little bit of warrior for shield trash.

I am going to repeat that I hardly EVER finish my ticket time. I probably have wasted a good fifth of that ticket, maybe more. Getting to 90 was pretty effortless. YES, it does take a good party who shows up everyday at the same time. Not everyone can do that right away but its pretty easy to work your way into one or make up a schedule with people you know (like, Im going to be here at 4:00 PM on Mon Tues Wed Thursday but not Fri Sat Sun). You will need at least 5 static party members, the wizards and bards can be subbed in as needed because frankly, those are pretty unskilled positions in the party. Good tanks, a few wizards and cleric are important.

Always train at mobs that nearly kill you. If the partying is easy, you need to move up. Stay at mobs that are 10 levels higher. If you ain't dyin, you ain't tryin. Try to keep a full euro party. While its nice to plevel ur chinese friends, they gain xp differently and that will affect you. Now people will blah blah blah about how this works and that works, this part isnt true, that part is... but frankly, you can see that it does because I am 90, FF with crap gears in 2 months.

Oh believe me all of that would be great if I had met other legits in my time on Mena. I have met maybe 4 people and they never log in. Also I don't play this game at regular times due to my work schedule so I could never say "I will be on at x time on y day" I'm also not going to spend more money on this game, I spent 50$ three years ago and when I logged in to this account like a month ago I found about 250 of the silk left. I used 49 on a clock on Odin... then I changed servers to Mena because Rev6 said it had the lowest overall level and the smallest amount of people because Odin had level 100-110 plvling everywhere my character went and it was impossible to level.

I then dropped the rest of my silk into my characters on Mena, a lootpet and some Pop cards to get a SoSun 24 staff and SoSun 42 staff. It wasn't until after I did that did I find out about Azteca's "movement" :banghead:

Either way you are saying you spend 29$+ a month on this game and getting into competent non-bot parties and grinding for several hours a day to get to level 90 in two months. If getting competent non-bot parties was easier to do I wouldn't be complaining at all. Hell if getting competent parties in ANY game was easier to do I wouldn't be playing this one lol.

ps. at the guy above me, that only furthers the idiocy and imbalance this game has. What other game do you know of that makes it so painful to level up with meh rewards along the way?

I think the only reason I play is because I wanted to get so far in this game back in 60/80 cap and never got much farther than the first areas. I also love playing it on max detail, looks pretty cool.

You don't have to spend money on the game, if you have pts with experienced people on a regular basis. I didn't buy any silk so far and i had several Lv.60+ characters on different servers already. With my current character (1H Warrior/Cleric) i play around 2 months now and i am lv.64. I could probably be around Lv.76 already, but i decided to farm some SP in cave to get both my skill trees on a decent level for pting. I stopped farming, when i had around 120k SP, which is enough for being Lv.72 FF. Besides that i don't really care too much about being at the level cap. I enjoy playing at any level, as long as there are competent people for pts around my level. On Azteca it's absolutely no problem to find these people at any level range from Sungsungs until Tomb.

apan · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 958 **Location:**

@Balderdash You may be FF but ony with 1 mastery lol ^^

And as said before, don't bitch about that it's hard to level if you're a Euro. Just make/find a party, try to lvl a chinese char and then come back in 12months when your done :sohappy:

Kronos · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 828 **Location:**

apan wrote:

@Balderdash You may be FF but ony with 1 mastery lol ^^

And as said before, don't bitch about that it's hard to level if you're a Euro. Just make/find a party, try to lvl a chinese char and then come back in 12months when your done :sohappy:

Don't make a chinese, if you think that it's too hard to do it. Euro characters are much better anyway.

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

The only reason Euros stand a chance really is because of Cleric's imbalance towards builds.

Cleric is almost always an int-based build in any mmorpg. The fact that a lvl 110 pure str warrior can use a lvl 80 cleric skill, 30 lvls lower, and max his hp in an instant is bullshit. They should go back and fix the calculations for heals. It should be based a lot more on int points than on the wep you have equipped.

If you're still confused, look at a pure int chinese using wep attacks without imbue. Then watch them attack with imbue. If JM made it so heals worked like that, int healers heal a lot, str healers heal for shit, the game would be so much more balanced. SOOOO much more.

Wanna check this? Get a euro to pvp you without using cleric heals. 90% will crumple instantly. Euros should be weak in 1v1, and strong in group. Hence all the buffs.

apan · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 958 **Location:**

Goseki took the words right out of my mouth.

And no, I won't make a Euro. Even if it's easier. I hate Euros.

JuelzSantana · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 720 **Location:**

Balderdash wrote:

JuelzSantana wrote:

nah actually for your information jackass im not a scrub like yourself. im in nursing school, i study constantly and i also work in a hospital on the cardiac floor and the labor and delivery unit. i take my girlfriend out on my free time and i do martial arts. i do everything BUT watch tv and jerk off. and u know what else i dont do? i dont waste my life playing silkroad

i literally CANT say im 107 cuz i dont have the time to sit there. you bot and your friend bots ur just too much of a p***y to admit it and thats ok. and im saying you're botting cuz i hope to GOD you are botting. because if you're not like i said you're sad.. 107 without botting, you mean to tell me you actually dedicate an hour of your life everyday to silkroad? and hour a day and you made it to 107 LOL? even with premium an hour a day, you need to farm, how did you farm? you had somebody bot for you ;D you mean to tell me you legit farmed for yourself and hit 107 in a couple of months using 1 hour a day? gtfo.. like i said you sound so pathetic right now, you should be anything but proud of your character. everyone has their way of life, but in society yours is frowned upon.

edit: yo post ur pic, i know for a fact ur overweight

...And nurses are supposed to be kind and empathetic.

Lighten up princess.

1 im a guy, 2 kind and empathetic to those who are in pain and suffering, 3 mind your own business

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