More countries now IP limited

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

I wish they make you able to open 2 clients at the same computer as i won't open 2 computers for a game and i have no idea how loaders work . XD

Hapjap · **Posted:** Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:40 pm

You_Dead_Yet wrote:

Where you heard that Goseki?

This is so retarded lol never heard of any game giving different access to some countries than some others... Thats some biased management to the max

Lol? alot of games do. different countries have different laws regarding internet usage and games. take vsro for example. they can only play for max of couple hours per day, because there is regulation on mmos in vietnam. after a certain amount time you stop getting xp,sp, and gold. im sure they want to restrict client to 2 for all countries, but some countries have laws protecting against such restrictions...

Fox Mulder · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 181 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

Why are they trying to implement an IP restriction when a they can just ban bots from plain old GM work.

Maybe Joymax doesn't want to ban the botters, but instead they want to make them more inclined to stop usng bots and continue playing by the rules. I suppose they're not trying to kill the game, they are trying to revive it.

The way I see it, this IP restriction is a step in the right direction. We should be grateful for what we've got, even if it's not what we were hoping for. I believe most of us remember how it was back in 2008-2009, right?

PS: Sneaky, you forgot to add Bulgaria in that list.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Fox Mulder wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Why are they trying to implement an IP restriction when a they can just ban bots from plain old GM work.

Maybe Joymax doesn't want to ban the botters, but instead they want to make them more inclined to stop usng bots and continue playing by the rules. I suppose they're not trying to kill the game, they are trying to revive it.

The way I see it, this IP restriction is a step in the right direction. We should be grateful for what we've got, even if it's not what we were hoping for. I believe most of us remember how it was back in 2008-2009, right?

PS: Sneaky, you forgot to add Bulgaria in that list.

Bulgaria is at the bottom.

Razorhead · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 820 **Location:**

Zeus: 3400/3500
Maya: 3100/3500
Tibet: 3150/3500

Eldorado also 2600 (against 2300 yesterday, same time)

I'm guessing free slots means more rooom for goldbots...

M3K0S · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 1580 **Location:**

word goin through the pot shop is latin american countries got raised to 5 characters
turkey and egypt got 2 at the beggining but they made a deal bigger than the revolution so they gave them 8 characters per ip... which is bullshit
and they are STILL complaining

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

M3K0S wrote:

word goin through the pot shop is latin american countries got raised to 5 characters
turkey and egypt got 2 at the beggining but they made a deal bigger than the revolution so they gave them 8 characters per ip... which is bullshit
and they are STILL complaining

Better than 30 for ip .

jyushinshuu · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1235 **Location:**

Pinoy_Archer wrote:

I dont get why JM added philippines where i couldn't see ppl playing SRO anymore and even the private servers.

Most of the time ppl here play CF or LOL or even LAN DotA. Me? I only play Garena DotA when i feel bored from all PHP Crap.

Also, we are also waiting for SRO2. So why spend time on this when a better game will come up in the future... We are patient enough for the long wait.

nah, actually many Pinoys play in Azteca. Some of my real life friends play there but not me. I see that it has the most active Pinoy community next to Phoenix.

It's sad some of my friends can't play in shops anymore cuz of 2 acct ip limit. I still noticed that there is still so many goldbots and goldbots staller, where is the account limit now? Its just a matter of time til' the servers are back to being crowded again. may a week or 2. so this is POINTLESS.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Well, what is the actual reason behind it?

LaCe · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 690 **Location:**

Turks and Egypts on ma server said there is no limit for them!
LOL

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

LaCe wrote:

Turks and Egypts on my server said there is no limit for them!
LOL

Maybe it is a big limit they never reached , it was 30 before not sure about now .

LaCe · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 690 **Location:**

The Invisible wrote:

LaCe wrote:

Turks and Egypts on my server said there is no limit for them!
LOL

Maybe it is a big limit they never reached , it was 30 before not sure about now .

dnno just asked a guild and they said they had a 2 client limit for 2 hours, now they've got their share parties on again....
gonna get ma friends notebook to check if I has limit

(gonna tell ya 2morrow)

You_Dead_Yet · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 380 **Location:** here

Lets change iSRO for t&eSRO! all Turkey and Egypt cheaters are welcome to join

This is like so lame, I never thought iSRO would get there. Allowing the most cheating countries to play as they wish, and restrict others. This must be a new low for the already bad iSRO.

Tobikus · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 101 **Location:** Poland

Dunno about you, but for me this game looks dead now.
people simply dont log in, dont grind, and since they re lazy they dont care about game... For me Joymax just foot itself in foot

eaglehawk · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 230 **Location:**

ridiculous ip ban, joymax wants to lose money and close this game down, 1 paying customer from USA with 3 accounts each with premium tickets is more valuable than 100 of the typical "cyber" egy/turks who "might" purchase silk gifts (with gold) to recharge their monkey once every 3 months.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

yea new waves of bots are starting to appear so there must already be a way to get around this limit, i also have heard that turkey have no limit anymore... a turk told me (in broken english) that he had 16 clients running. one with an 8man party in job cave, one plvling noobs at ongs and his 2 noobs and the char he was using to play CTF...

i first heard that clientless bots didnt work at all but now they work again anyway... ive seen various people selling there IP's already loaded up with certain bot programs.

to be honest im getting sick and tired of people who
a) obviously bot yet deny it
b) people telling me they dont hax when they see me in stealth even when i know they arent using a skill. (for example standing at the flag in stealth and some1 res's and as soon as 5s is up just attacks me...

and finally
c) when i ask them why they have to hack, i get called a noob.

things like stealth is integral for wizzards as otherwise they lose to every class:
blader - soul blade or dance
nuker - lion shout
glavier - spear throw
bower - ...any skill
xbow - any skill
bard - win nuke speed
cleric - well... bless anyway

you get my point =(

Hapjap · **Posted:** Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:30 am

penfold1992 wrote:

yea new waves of bots are starting to appear so there must already be a way to get around this limit, i also have heard that turkey have no limit anymore... a turk told me (in broken english) that he had 16 clients running. one with an 8man party in job cave, one plvling noobs at ongs and his 2 noobs and the char he was using to play CTF...

i first heard that clientless bots didnt work at all but now they work again anyway... ive seen various people selling there IP's already loaded up with certain bot programs.

to be honest im getting sick and tired of people who
a) obviously bot yet deny it
b) people telling me they dont hax when they see me in stealth even when i know they arent using a skill. (for example standing at the flag in stealth and some1 res's and as soon as 5s is up just attacks me...

and finally
c) when i ask them why they have to hack, i get called a noob.

things like stealth is integral for wizzards as otherwise they lose to every class:
blader - soul blade or dance
nuker - lion shout
glavier - spear throw
bower - ...any skill
xbow - any skill
bard - win nuke speed
cleric - well... bless anyway

you get my point =(

eh the whole invis thing isn't really a hack. just a simple pk2 edit. which afaik is allowed here?

firefinal1 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:09 am

Personaly I think its kinda Racist that Egyp + Turkey got no ip limit.

Because I see 1000s of Turkish 1 man 8 chars pts online.
Also as soon as the ip limit of Turkey / Egypt was removed , I noticed a HUGE increase on goldbots in Zeus.

And also I notice a huge increase in Turks winning pvps. Because they got 24/7 buffers on Samarkand now in pvp. And I wonder what next FW will do. Last fw an American + German guild occupied jangan + hotan.. I know for sure they are going to lose it, because Turks can login 1000s of chars and are able to get gold easily = Better equips.

Personaly I think that if joymax has no option to block all countries, they shouldnt do a single country.
Its all or non, but they shouldnt give certain countries advantages above others.

*Thats like the same as giving the same player always the chance to kill the unique, that aint fun for others.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Hapjap wrote:

eh the whole invis thing isn't really a hack. just a simple pk2 edit. which afaik is allowed here?

pretty sure that pk2 editting to remove stealth isnt considered allowed here...
what do you mean its not a hack? its editing game files in order to give you an advantage over players that do not have this (or that have stealth to hide from people)
its like saying using transparent wall skins on CS:S isnt really a hack because its just a simple edit... which allows you to see people through walls.

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

There are some pk2 edits which aren't client side and some call it hacks , Like'show' stealth , invisible , Unique spawn spots on in game map ( not that bad but it gives advantage over others ) , Gm Console (no idea what it does though) .

80 % of the pk2 are legal and doesn't affect game play for anyone other than you but joymax says that all are legal afaik .

IceCrash · **Posted:** Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:53 pm

gosh, turks and stuff really do suck, oh well.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

The Invisible wrote:

There are some pk2 edits which aren't client side and some call it hacks , Like'show' stealth , invisible , Unique spawn spots on in game map ( not that bad but it gives advantage over others ) , Gm Console (no idea what it does though) .

80 % of the pk2 are legal and doesn't affect game play for anyone other than you but joymax says that all are legal afaik .

GM Console gives u the ability to use the free camera(u can create ur own login screens with that), show wireframe, disable the display of ground and/or sky etc. Dunno if it gives advantages over others, but it sure is cool to use the free cam to create cooler vids, intros and stuff.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

The Invisible wrote:

There are some pk2 edits which aren't client side and some call it hacks , Like'show' stealth , invisible , Unique spawn spots on in game map ( not that bad but it gives advantage over others ) , Gm Console (no idea what it does though) .

80 % of the pk2 are legal and doesn't affect game play for anyone other than you but joymax says that all are legal afaik .

no jm say they are all illegal,
quote from ToS
You may not modify or alter the software, you may not create any derivative works from the software and you may not disassemble or use the software to reverse engineer the software.

pk2 editting is totally illegal in there opinion

CeLL · **Posted:** Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:58 pm

The Invisible wrote:

There are some pk2 edits which aren't client side and some call it hacks , Like'show' stealth , invisible , Unique spawn spots on in game map ( not that bad but it gives advantage over others ) , Gm Console (no idea what it does though) .

80 % of the pk2 are legal and doesn't affect game play for anyone other than you but joymax says that all are legal afaik .

those are all still client side. the invisible person becomes and invible skin in game to your client. not arguing for them, as i think viewing stealth is lame, but they are still all in the client side. non client side hack would be like, gold dup, or 1 hit killing people.

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

penfold1992 wrote:

The Invisible wrote:

There are some pk2 edits which aren't client side and some call it hacks , Like'show' stealth , invisible , Unique spawn spots on in game map ( not that bad but it gives advantage over others ) , Gm Console (no idea what it does though) .

80 % of the pk2 are legal and doesn't affect game play for anyone other than you but joymax says that all are legal afaik .

no jm say they are all illegal,
quote from ToS
You may not modify or alter the software, you may not create any derivative works from the software and you may not disassemble or use the software to reverse engineer the software.

pk2 editting is totally illegal in there opinion

There weren't even 1 ban (temporary or permenant) because of pk2 edits , so it doesn't seem they actually care about it , not sure if there is a way to detect if pk2 was edited that joymax use .

Oh and by saying client sided i meant that it doesn't effect the game play of anyone other than the editor ,like you can have your normal +3 weapon look like a +15 sun weapon or change the shape of the weapon to another degree , make your wolf look like a mob and much more things that you are the only one that can see it ,.

Maybe the invisible and stealth pk2 are client sided but they affect people other than you but it doesn't seem joymax will do anything about it soon .

Hapjap · **Posted:** Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:52 pm

easy fix to this ,if joymax just spent a tiny bit of their time actually improving gameplay. make it so invis/stealthed chars cannot be attacked at all until revealed by a skill or potion.

CeLL · **Posted:** Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:01 pm

it isnt that JM doesnt care. it is that there is nothing they can do beside scanning your client everytime you connect. that would be expensive as the time and resources it would consume would be great.
though hapjaps idea makes a whole world of sense. dont be surpirsed if you are demanded to prove it though...

Razorhead · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 820 **Location:**

Razorhead wrote:

Zeus: 3400/3500
Maya: 3100/3500
Tibet: 3150/3500

Eldorado also 2600 (against 2300 yesterday, same time)

I'm guessing free slots means more rooom for goldbots...

Maya: 2900/3500
Tibet: 3300/3500
RedSea: 3400/3500
Zeus: 3450/3500

Eldorado: 3000/3500

At this rate servers are gonna be full by the weekend...

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

CeLL wrote:

it isnt that JM doesnt care. it is that there is nothing they can do beside scanning your client everytime you connect. that would be expensive as the time and resources it would consume would be great.
though hapjaps idea makes a whole world of sense. dont be surpirsed if you are demanded to prove it though...

I agree , it is a good idea "fix" and i don't suppose it is that hard to program it or much time consuming .

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

joymax probably wont ban you for pk2 editing stealth but we dont support it here on this forums as its cheating...
when calculating my sp i was like "shall i take invis or detect?"
then i realised theres not much point because detecting wizzards will just show you that theyre casting to kill you, and no-one takes detect if they have pk2 edit so they either see you, or they dont.

the stealth in wow works better, stealth should just be made server side that way someone would have to modify the actual client to view it, making it much much easier to detect if someone is using a hack (however bots do the same and they dont get detected...)

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