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When I was playing on Babel we had a bunch of pure STR bows running around at the 70 cap. I was around 89% hybrid spear in armor and they were the bane of my existence. That's what I meant, that you are lucky to be INT in a server with no STR bows.

I voted garment on the poll, after having used armor extensively as a very INT-heavy hybrid nuker. Why? Other nukers destroyed me. I couldn't 1-shot them because they were in garments. They ran much faster so that was basically the end even if they couldn't always 1-shot me because of my extra HP.

If you are into 1v1, keeping around an armor set for that purpose is fine. If you are going to do any big warring the ONLY ints that can get away with armor are low magic balance hybrids with very good HP, or people rich enough to afford top-end gear. In which case they might as well go prots anyway for the speed.

I agree with you in certain ways bake. I voted garm cause well a Top - Quality garm set is the same as some neglected armor set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZwVE79b8Nk

Just made this before I call it a night. Tried it 4 times. 1st one lasted forever. 2nd / 3rd / 4th all ended with a bloody insane crit.

Oh and a lvl 79 in full armor with sosun earrings pvp'd the same guy. Only to lose after soul spear soul and ghost spear mars. I mean you are what you make of your character.

Ahh before I forget I must add I'm on a 9 gap. So imagine these hits +2k
P.S. Eagle I know you will be readign this.. re-match when I'm 0 gap

I see what you saying.
At this cap, for the most part, its almost nothing but pot fights.

So, for the most part, are you saying that Garms are the choice for all builds?

I would personally say Garm's is for the pure's and Protector is for the hybrid's.
Unless you have sosun, possible som theres In my opinion no reason not to wear garm if your pure.

I think it comes down to what level you are.
d1-d6/7, Ints SHOULD wear armor/protector.
d8, garm

does it? but what about the magical mobs like the earth taoists and stuff. ppl mentioned that its better to wear garms so that you can deal with them better.

I was mainly talking pvp.

Taoists, spiders, ishades. Alot of them use int attacks. But remeber, protector + your already high mag defense because your int= your fine.

Even as pure int if you're concerned with fastest leveling I would wear garments all the way until you get on the ice. You'll be int bow until 30 which means there are plenty of mobs to grind that give good exp and die before they can hit you, or hit you only once, and you don't have enough AOE to make mobbing worthwhile. Then you get nukes and nothing melee should be hitting you for a while to come. Assuming you ignore quests, the next serious challenge is mujigis because of their insane crits, and they have low HP so just don't go there until you can nuke+shout or nuke+weapon skill them. Then you have fun at shades until you move onto the ice, and it isn't until penon warriors that you find enough aggro, ranged, high HP physical mobs to warrant switching away from garments. Except hey, you can easily avoid them by grinding planars and sonars until 56 when you move to yetis.

I would say that yetis are the first, best reason to stop using garments as a pure INT. They are kind of a precursor to the killer cave mobs. I switched from garments to armor at level 57, but of course by then I was 90% hybrid spear and you play that a bit differently. By the time I was 60 I could have half a dozen devil yetis on me at once, and I had three AOE nukes plus two books of ghost spear to handle them. It was an insanely good grind. Pure INT in armor with a shield *might* have kept up with me if it farmed its heuksal passive. Maybe. But until that point the only time I regretting wearing garments was fighting mujigi giants. Or in PvP, of course, but I was always farming because of my damn force mastery so I didn't worry much about doing well in PvP until I was 60.

I have to admit though, when I was 60 in armor I loved it for 1v1. The only STR char I found who could beat me more times than I beat him was wontonUser, who was a lot better farmed than I was. Thing is, I still had major problems jobbing because it's almost never 1v1 and being slow sucks.

I say garments...i'm Int, and i would rather take my chances vs a pure str glaiver in garments, then to get, nuked for 6k -7k in armor by an int.

okay then. after reading urs, bakes, plus44's comments, i decide to switch to garms even if more ppl voted armour. the ones who voted armour didnt explain themselves well enough and didnt have good enough reasons so...garms is what im gonna wear.

hey hey good choice

And to add to what bake said about the armor vs. yetis that is true. A spear nuker may find it useful to switch to armor, however I think a smart sword nuker may be OK in garms. At least, Sephy, my guildie, was OK killing red cave mobs in garms but then again, he's special.

Plus, I watched your PvP vid. You can afford to play your nuker like a hybrid but only because of your gear -- and is that the best choice? I never made it to being capped and farmed but looking at that fight I think my hybrid spear in armor played a lot like your pure s/s in high quality garments. I had better damage and lower defense but the basic idea is the same; your shield is like my extra STR; your extra INT is like my spear's extra damage.

Anyway your vid has inspired me to finally write down my personal theories about nuker vs. pure STR pvp strategy. Unfortunately it's turned out to be a much bigger task than I intended to take on and so I'm going to post it in a separate thread in Characters and Skills as soon as I finish it... which is not going to happen tonight. So either look forward to it or dread it, as you like.

I myself am very excited at the prospect of being insufferably pedantic for what is going to be a *very* long post.

I wouldn't say I can afford to play it like this, much more I have to. Simply nuking won't do the job as I'll get stunned or knocked away too much. So I chose to knockdown and stab.

Vs. Nukers I just sit and nuke as stabs and knockdowns really are a waste of time.

Vs. Bladers I also sit and dnuke with the occasional knockdown put it's never ending usually.

Hybrids.... well there's 2 Anyeong and Ambrosia they are pretty much impossible to kill for me. High mag defense and more hp than me, all tho they can't kill either. Really I haven't pvp'd either of them seriously for awhile, but yeah.

My conclusion is pimp out the gear you got. Cause at 80 is going to be one hell of a boring pvp. I guess you could say 80 is for MASS wars. Cause without our 76 weapons its so unbalanced. But oh well.

Im INT nuker with Garment.

Against Glavie: I have to walk away, still not enough dmg to kill him.
Against Bowers: Peace of cacke, watch out for there crits
Against Spear: Most of the time they are pure INT nukers. Would be great, beat them

With my build/garment you have to at least put everything +3 at your gear. Some good Shield with NICE BR is importent. Crit dosnt mather that much on your weapon because nukes cant crit.

no but weapon skills can crit >.> . And for me atleast it helps ALOT

INDEED, i love when people say crits for int don't matter, when int will do most of their dmg in a fight with wpn skills...i would love to see a spear nuker just try to nuke a glaiver..without using Soul Spears...lol gonna be over very fast. But don't compare int crits..to strs crits...int crits hurts just as bad as strs...sure a pure str could rock u with a mars crit for 8k at lvl 80 but..my mars crit does 7k with 70 spear masties...o_0 7k > 5.5k any day.

pve = int+garmnet .. right choice .
thx