99% Euro Warriors Are NOOB

rexios · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 3

I was a warrior and i got bored of it , its too easy so i made my self a wizard in 2 days i got to lvl 29 and i got invited to this party and his guy called Imortal was saying that i had a noob staff (which is a +3 lvl 21) and i was a pure STR wizard couse he said i was hiting 200s when i was hiting 2.3k each time so he kicks me out of the party later on the other party member realize that i was doing good dmg and they invite me back and he still keep complaing that i get no agro each time i hit the mob, and im like Im a wizard why should i get agro later on i got pissed and i left the party, later on he PMs me and he says that he crits for 9.7k dmg when he doen't even do 300.

Anyway most of the warriors are wierd i got 2 clan mates and there warriors when theres a PT normal mob they put shield on and when theres a giant pt they 2hand and they end up dead, also one of them prefares to Pick up 100gold then freaken take off agro a mob that is hiting me.

Don't play as warrior if you don't know its role noobs

Kikyo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:16 am

ohhh, you know what i hate too, is when you invite someone you don't know, and then they see a drop that looks good, they leave party and then they pick up the item, what a dumb FU_CK, but it's funny though.

but i still hate bots.

torinchibi · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 1357 **Location:**

Goobronicus wrote:

In our party grinds at generals, I have two methods ( I am a lvl 80 wizard/bard).

The first is used if we have a warrior and a cleric. I go into Life Turnover and get buffs from the cleric and fences from the warrior (with these buffs I have 5.5khp an extra ~150 physical defense, and ~30% constant physical absorption). Warrior howls, shouts, etc while I do AOE, meteor, etc. If I get a champ or giant on me, or feel that too many creatures are coming at me, I use earth barrier (high % absorbance) and teleport my butt out of there until the warrior can get agro again. Then I repeat. NOTE: I keep X-Large vigors on me for these situations. I RARELY die, and if I do, the cleric can res to 80, so I'm not worried.

The second is used when there are only Chinese tanks (glaviers or bladers) and/or no cleric. I do NOT go into life turnover mode. I only use single target spells (Ice Spear maxed, fireball maxed; repeated because each has a cooldown of 3 seconds). I use AOE only when regular mobs are around and I'm targeting a mob that said blader/glavier is attacking. If a mob attacks me, I solo it, whether or not it is a party mob or not, and wait until another member can help me. With my earth barrier and freezing spells, I can easily tank 2 party mobs at once.

A wizard should never have a problem in party with aggro, they should just know how to deal with it. Course, I HAND GRINDED my character to 80, and actually know how to play it, unlike many of the high level euro's in game. If the european doesn't understand how to play their character, they were most likely power leveled by bots, or are botters.

For those questioning my sub class choice, I use it for 90% movement (Chinese players love this and ask to be buffed all the time) and Noise (attack prevention level 90 [yes level 90]). I am in the Rome server, under the same name.

...30% absorption? Get a new tanker that has more than lvl 1 fences.... At 70 it's already 55% with 51% aggro absorption. It happens often when you hit something close to the warrior and it goes for him after the hit instead of you with the 51% protect.

I would just like to say this to all the people in chinese parties. You are fools. If you cannot use aoe attacks constantly it is not worth being in a party, especially when you can't even use your life turnover. Why? Because party mobs have 10x the hp, and only give 4x the xp. For a wizard that can 1 shot generals without life turnover, the xp in a chinese party where you only use fire blow and frozen spear is pathetic. The only reason that would justify such a party would be spawn rate, since the bots always make it crappy by overcrowding spots.

For a chinese blader, it might be worth having a party with nukers, but for anyone else it's useless in terms of xp.

rexios wrote:

I was a warrior and i got bored of it , its too easy so i made my self a wizard in 2 days i got to lvl 29 and i got invited to this party and his guy called Imortal was saying that i had a noob staff (which is a +3 lvl 21) and i was a pure STR wizard couse he said i was hiting 200s when i was hiting 2.3k each time so he kicks me out of the party later on the other party member realize that i was doing good dmg and they invite me back and he still keep complaing that i get no agro each time i hit the mob, and im like Im a wizard why should i get agro later on i got pissed and i left the party, later on he PMs me and he says that he crits for 9.7k dmg when he doen't even do 300.

Anyway most of the warriors are wierd i got 2 clan mates and there warriors when theres a PT normal mob they put shield on and when theres a giant pt they 2hand and they end up dead, also one of them prefares to Pick up 100gold then freaken take off agro a mob that is hiting me.

Don't play as warrior if you don't know its role noobs

Lvl 29 pure str wizard with lvl 21+3 staff... What kind of a character is that? An int based mastery and a staff that is super bad. I don't know what you were doing 2.3k on, but that warrior was right, you must be really dumb to even admit doing this.

raysisfenix · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

trein91 wrote:

Can't blame them though. All of them are botted and powerlvled.

My lv 32 axe warrior never bot and get powerlvl b4.

Renton · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 621 **Location:**

^Lv 32 is nothing for euro <_< Except for wizard/warlock since they actually got more than 5 skills. The rest is just.. lol.

Goobronicus · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1011 **Location:**

torinchibi wrote:

*snip*

...30% absorption? Get a new tanker that has more than lvl 1 fences.... At 70 it's already 55% with 51% aggro absorption. It happens often when you hit something close to the warrior and it goes for him after the hit instead of you with the 51% protect.

I would just like to say this to all the people in chinese parties. You are fools. If you cannot use aoe attacks constantly it is not worth being in a party, especially when you can't even use your life turnover. Why? Because party mobs have 10x the hp, and only give 4x the xp. For a wizard that can 1 shot generals without life turnover, the xp in a chinese party where you only use fire blow and frozen spear is pathetic. The only reason that would justify such a party would be spawn rate, since the bots always make it crappy by overcrowding spots.

First, the warrior in our party has low defense buffs but is working on it (he's 80 and getting those skills upped now. We have a lvl 69 warrior that has those ~50% buffs however we dont' risk it because he has less hp and gets hit a lot harder).

Second, I am capped (80 and 99.99) so xp really doesn't matter to me. I party to play with friends and to help them level. The rate of xp (trust me I get it much faster alone in a distro than in an 8 man autoshare) at this point in time does not matter to me. I'm just upping skills when I get the sp and I'm in no great rush.

Finally, you are correct. In the Rome server, the Niya remains are full of KSing bots, and one of the easiest ways to get rid of them is to form autoshares and get party mobs. Most die off or come back to babysit their bot and see what they are attacking.

PS. I party grind to be sociable. There is a reason why I'm level 80, and it wasn't through party grinding, botting, or power leveling [hint: life control/turnover + mobs 7-10 lvls above you + 1shot kills]

rexios · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 3

torinchibi wrote:

Goobronicus wrote:

In our party grinds at generals, I have two methods ( I am a lvl 80 wizard/bard).

The first is used if we have a warrior and a cleric. I go into Life Turnover and get buffs from the cleric and fences from the warrior (with these buffs I have 5.5khp an extra ~150 physical defense, and ~30% constant physical absorption). Warrior howls, shouts, etc while I do AOE, meteor, etc. If I get a champ or giant on me, or feel that too many creatures are coming at me, I use earth barrier (high % absorbance) and teleport my butt out of there until the warrior can get agro again. Then I repeat. NOTE: I keep X-Large vigors on me for these situations. I RARELY die, and if I do, the cleric can res to 80, so I'm not worried.

The second is used when there are only Chinese tanks (glaviers or bladers) and/or no cleric. I do NOT go into life turnover mode. I only use single target spells (Ice Spear maxed, fireball maxed; repeated because each has a cooldown of 3 seconds). I use AOE only when regular mobs are around and I'm targeting a mob that said blader/glavier is attacking. If a mob attacks me, I solo it, whether or not it is a party mob or not, and wait until another member can help me. With my earth barrier and freezing spells, I can easily tank 2 party mobs at once.

A wizard should never have a problem in party with aggro, they should just know how to deal with it. Course, I HAND GRINDED my character to 80, and actually know how to play it, unlike many of the high level euro's in game. If the european doesn't understand how to play their character, they were most likely power leveled by bots, or are botters.

For those questioning my sub class choice, I use it for 90% movement (Chinese players love this and ask to be buffed all the time) and Noise (attack prevention level 90 [yes level 90]). I am in the Rome server, under the same name.

...30% absorption? Get a new tanker that has more than lvl 1 fences.... At 70 it's already 55% with 51% aggro absorption. It happens often when you hit something close to the warrior and it goes for him after the hit instead of you with the 51% protect.

I would just like to say this to all the people in chinese parties. You are fools. If you cannot use aoe attacks constantly it is not worth being in a party, especially when you can't even use your life turnover. Why? Because party mobs have 10x the hp, and only give 4x the xp. For a wizard that can 1 shot generals without life turnover, the xp in a chinese party where you only use fire blow and frozen spear is pathetic. The only reason that would justify such a party would be spawn rate, since the bots always make it crappy by overcrowding spots.

For a chinese blader, it might be worth having a party with nukers, but for anyone else it's useless in terms of xp.

rexios wrote:

I was a warrior and i got bored of it , its too easy so i made my self a wizard in 2 days i got to lvl 29 and i got invited to this party and his guy called Imortal was saying that i had a noob staff (which is a +3 lvl 21) and i was a pure STR wizard couse he said i was hiting 200s when i was hiting 2.3k each time so he kicks me out of the party later on the other party member realize that i was doing good dmg and they invite me back and he still keep complaing that i get no agro each time i hit the mob, and im like Im a wizard why should i get agro later on i got pissed and i left the party, later on he PMs me and he says that he crits for 9.7k dmg when he doen't even do 300.

Anyway most of the warriors are wierd i got 2 clan mates and there warriors when theres a PT normal mob they put shield on and when theres a giant pt they 2hand and they end up dead, also one of them prefares to Pick up 100gold then freaken take off agro a mob that is hiting me.

Don't play as warrior if you don't know its role noobs

Lvl 29 pure str wizard with lvl 21+3 staff... What kind of a character is that? An int based mastery and a staff that is super bad. I don't know what you were doing 2.3k on, but that warrior was right, you must be really dumb to even admit doing this.

Im dumb couse i can't find a 4D staff in a new server? and my 3D is better then the 4d staff in the NPC shop should i spend 130k gold to get less dmg? nice post read before you comment noob.

ShadowSpell · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 884 **Location:**

rexios wrote:

torinchibi wrote:

Goobronicus wrote:

In our party grinds at generals, I have two methods ( I am a lvl 80 wizard/bard).

The first is used if we have a warrior and a cleric. I go into Life Turnover and get buffs from the cleric and fences from the warrior (with these buffs I have 5.5khp an extra ~150 physical defense, and ~30% constant physical absorption). Warrior howls, shouts, etc while I do AOE, meteor, etc. If I get a champ or giant on me, or feel that too many creatures are coming at me, I use earth barrier (high % absorbance) and teleport my butt out of there until the warrior can get agro again. Then I repeat. NOTE: I keep X-Large vigors on me for these situations. I RARELY die, and if I do, the cleric can res to 80, so I'm not worried.

The second is used when there are only Chinese tanks (glaviers or bladers) and/or no cleric. I do NOT go into life turnover mode. I only use single target spells (Ice Spear maxed, fireball maxed; repeated because each has a cooldown of 3 seconds). I use AOE only when regular mobs are around and I'm targeting a mob that said blader/glavier is attacking. If a mob attacks me, I solo it, whether or not it is a party mob or not, and wait until another member can help me. With my earth barrier and freezing spells, I can easily tank 2 party mobs at once.

A wizard should never have a problem in party with aggro, they should just know how to deal with it. Course, I HAND GRINDED my character to 80, and actually know how to play it, unlike many of the high level euro's in game. If the european doesn't understand how to play their character, they were most likely power leveled by bots, or are botters.

For those questioning my sub class choice, I use it for 90% movement (Chinese players love this and ask to be buffed all the time) and Noise (attack prevention level 90 [yes level 90]). I am in the Rome server, under the same name.

...30% absorption? Get a new tanker that has more than lvl 1 fences.... At 70 it's already 55% with 51% aggro absorption. It happens often when you hit something close to the warrior and it goes for him after the hit instead of you with the 51% protect.

I would just like to say this to all the people in chinese parties. You are fools. If you cannot use aoe attacks constantly it is not worth being in a party, especially when you can't even use your life turnover. Why? Because party mobs have 10x the hp, and only give 4x the xp. For a wizard that can 1 shot generals without life turnover, the xp in a chinese party where you only use fire blow and frozen spear is pathetic. The only reason that would justify such a party would be spawn rate, since the bots always make it crappy by overcrowding spots.

For a chinese blader, it might be worth having a party with nukers, but for anyone else it's useless in terms of xp.

rexios wrote:

I was a warrior and i got bored of it , its too easy so i made my self a wizard in 2 days i got to lvl 29 and i got invited to this party and his guy called Imortal was saying that i had a noob staff (which is a +3 lvl 21) and i was a pure STR wizard couse he said i was hiting 200s when i was hiting 2.3k each time so he kicks me out of the party later on the other party member realize that i was doing good dmg and they invite me back and he still keep complaing that i get no agro each time i hit the mob, and im like Im a wizard why should i get agro later on i got pissed and i left the party, later on he PMs me and he says that he crits for 9.7k dmg when he doen't even do 300.

Anyway most of the warriors are wierd i got 2 clan mates and there warriors when theres a PT normal mob they put shield on and when theres a giant pt they 2hand and they end up dead, also one of them prefares to Pick up 100gold then freaken take off agro a mob that is hiting me.

Don't play as warrior if you don't know its role noobs

Lvl 29 pure str wizard with lvl 21+3 staff... What kind of a character is that? An int based mastery and a staff that is super bad. I don't know what you were doing 2.3k on, but that warrior was right, you must be really dumb to even admit doing this.

Im dumb couse i can't find a 4D staff in a new server? and my 3D is better then the 4d staff in the NPC shop should i spend 130k gold to get less dmg? nice post read before you comment noob.

no the problem is a pure str wizard, if you are a pure str wizard you might as well abandon that character and start over, a wizard should be a pure INT ot INT hybrid character not pure STR

Darknesis · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 190 **Location:**

trein91 wrote:

They:

1) run around like mad bringing aggro-ed mobs with them
2) doesnt use pain quota on wizards and cleric
3) doesnt use physical screen on other party members
4) does not use vital increase because it makes them WEAKK???
5) never realise the job of a warrior in party play is to TANK and not KILL

A good euro party isn't even suppose to move. The warrior should just use Howling Shout to taunt the mobs to himself and let the wizards nuke it. Instead they run around then use knockdown moves on giants >_>.

Can't blame them though. All of them are botted and powerlvled.

u.u
-1 im a warrior i use all buffs to protect party members , i don't leave the wiz and clerics get touched receiving the dmg!
and the vital increse i only use it when i fight against a pmob [pot delay]

int100kbr · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 262 **Location:**

lol sthu my wizard lvl 42 atm can own anything its lvl without life control with full npc gear my staff inst even +1 and i 1 hit mobs my lvl just can take the party mobs but i do ok with recovery division so yeah we OWN not SUCK.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:41 pm

soulreapr wrote:

rexios wrote:

torinchibi wrote:

Goobronicus wrote:

In our party grinds at generals, I have two methods ( I am a lvl 80 wizard/bard).

The first is used if we have a warrior and a cleric. I go into Life Turnover and get buffs from the cleric and fences from the warrior (with these buffs I have 5.5khp an extra ~150 physical defense, and ~30% constant physical absorption). Warrior howls, shouts, etc while I do AOE, meteor, etc. If I get a champ or giant on me, or feel that too many creatures are coming at me, I use earth barrier (high % absorbance) and teleport my butt out of there until the warrior can get agro again. Then I repeat. NOTE: I keep X-Large vigors on me for these situations. I RARELY die, and if I do, the cleric can res to 80, so I'm not worried.

The second is used when there are only Chinese tanks (glaviers or bladers) and/or no cleric. I do NOT go into life turnover mode. I only use single target spells (Ice Spear maxed, fireball maxed; repeated because each has a cooldown of 3 seconds). I use AOE only when regular mobs are around and I'm targeting a mob that said blader/glavier is attacking. If a mob attacks me, I solo it, whether or not it is a party mob or not, and wait until another member can help me. With my earth barrier and freezing spells, I can easily tank 2 party mobs at once.

A wizard should never have a problem in party with aggro, they should just know how to deal with it. Course, I HAND GRINDED my character to 80, and actually know how to play it, unlike many of the high level euro's in game. If the european doesn't understand how to play their character, they were most likely power leveled by bots, or are botters.

For those questioning my sub class choice, I use it for 90% movement (Chinese players love this and ask to be buffed all the time) and Noise (attack prevention level 90 [yes level 90]). I am in the Rome server, under the same name.

...30% absorption? Get a new tanker that has more than lvl 1 fences.... At 70 it's already 55% with 51% aggro absorption. It happens often when you hit something close to the warrior and it goes for him after the hit instead of you with the 51% protect.

I would just like to say this to all the people in chinese parties. You are fools. If you cannot use aoe attacks constantly it is not worth being in a party, especially when you can't even use your life turnover. Why? Because party mobs have 10x the hp, and only give 4x the xp. For a wizard that can 1 shot generals without life turnover, the xp in a chinese party where you only use fire blow and frozen spear is pathetic. The only reason that would justify such a party would be spawn rate, since the bots always make it crappy by overcrowding spots.

For a chinese blader, it might be worth having a party with nukers, but for anyone else it's useless in terms of xp.

rexios wrote:

I was a warrior and i got bored of it , its too easy so i made my self a wizard in 2 days i got to lvl 29 and i got invited to this party and his guy called Imortal was saying that i had a noob staff (which is a +3 lvl 21) and i was a pure STR wizard couse he said i was hiting 200s when i was hiting 2.3k each time so he kicks me out of the party later on the other party member realize that i was doing good dmg and they invite me back and he still keep complaing that i get no agro each time i hit the mob, and im like Im a wizard why should i get agro later on i got pissed and i left the party, later on he PMs me and he says that he crits for 9.7k dmg when he doen't even do 300.

Anyway most of the warriors are wierd i got 2 clan mates and there warriors when theres a PT normal mob they put shield on and when theres a giant pt they 2hand and they end up dead, also one of them prefares to Pick up 100gold then freaken take off agro a mob that is hiting me.

Don't play as warrior if you don't know its role noobs

Lvl 29 pure str wizard with lvl 21+3 staff... What kind of a character is that? An int based mastery and a staff that is super bad. I don't know what you were doing 2.3k on, but that warrior was right, you must be really dumb to even admit doing this.

Im dumb couse i can't find a 4D staff in a new server? and my 3D is better then the 4d staff in the NPC shop should i spend 130k gold to get less dmg? nice post read before you comment noob.

no the problem is a pure str wizard, if you are a pure str wizard you might as well abandon that character and start over, a wizard should be a pure INT ot INT hybrid character not pure STR

Its sounds to me like immortal was just calling him a Pure STR wizard to make fun of him and you guys ran with it...

windrider739 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 26 **Location:** Muncie, IN

My primary character being a wizard, I can tell you from experience I absolutely hate two-handed sword users. They don't seem to realize that not only can a wizard or warlock cast spells while the monster is down (which is ridiculous in the first place) but as well, wizards can't use their standard attack either.

Now, while the 'job' of a warrior is to tank - I do decently at soloing. Most wizards would if they had any sence. I can't count the amount of times I've been around a wizard just mashing fireball over and over. My attack scheme is as follows.

Snow Wind (to whatever the strongest monster is / target monster if there's only one. This is a group attack that freezes)
Ground Charge (Another group attack, generally knocks out any smaller monsters in tandem with freezing.)
OR IF THERE'S ONLY ONE MONSTER
Ice Bolt (Used with snow wind, chances are the monster's slowed if not frozen to the ground)
IF MONSTER IS HALF DEAD OR MORE
Fire Bolt (For the extra crispy recipe. Repeat between ice and fire bolt until dead)
IF MONSTER HAS MORE THAN HALF HP
Fire Blow (For when extra crispy just isn't enough)

Anyway... I can't count the number of times our tanker got tanked himself because he decided he'd go for a double mastery and swapped his sword out for a cleric rod and tried to res someone in the middle of a champion party fight - AND THEN TRIED TO FIGHT WITH IT.

I dunno, the whole premise of 2H swordsmen just drives me nuts. I've yet to meet one that didn't drive me nuts. The 1hand swordsmen seem to be 50/50 on the noob level so they aren't so bad.

breathtaker234 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:02 pm

I think any warrior, weapon excluded, can be a good tanker, as a bunch of the skills and buffs are usable by any weapon equipped. 'Annoying how some warriors do not use them! I mean, if the party is "good"/organized, the cleric will just be a bit more busy with healing 2h and Axes because they give up DEF for Power. However, their Taunt and Aggro-effect should be much higher than a 1h, and should be able to get mobs away from their companions.

[Forgot to mention Knockdown, very bad if you know you have nukers going at it >.> It's always gonna give warriors that "Hehe, you were that quiet/wierd kid back in elementary ... good times, good times"]

Some people above wrote:

Wizards aggro-ing stuff the warrior hasn't touched yet, players picking up items while the team is still under attack

Ack, I'm guilty of both! Thanks for pointing it out x-x.

On the side, I've been trying out a warrior on the new servers. It's really cool taunting monsters away from your friends. I can see how clerics and wizards need to be professional too; as my warrior got stronger, pots worked less, and losing exp "to be a hero" will get troublesome very soon xD.

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